16May
2024
Special City Council Meeting · One key issue

This was a special meeting with one item: a work study on the 2024-25 budget, the second in a series.

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Thursday, May 16, 2024

  1. 01

    No votes were taken.

    46:00
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    Valerie Amezcua
    Valerie AmezcuaMayor

    Perfect. Thank you. I know the downtown business area will be very happy. I know as Councilman Hernandez was talking about, they talk about that quite a bit. So I'm also in agreement regarding Sunday parking. I think, I know we make money off of parking, but…

    3:08:04
    David Penaloza
    David PenalozaCouncilmember

    torn down does that come with a four million dollar cost so I don't know where this numbers coming from but if we could get a breakdown of this four million dollars to relocate the police department it shouldn't be included as part of the the park that wasn't…

    1:34:34
    Johnathan Ryan Hernandez
    Johnathan Ryan HernandezCouncilmember

    fund. And so there are a couple of departments that are not at the million-dollar threshold through the cannabis fund, and I'd like to create some equity there. So what I would like to see is for us to move $1 million from the $1.8 that PD currently has. I'd…

    1:38:06
    Jessie Lopez
    Jessie LopezCouncilmember

    three I do want to make a request that we that we and hopefully the council council will support the three million allocation for all alleys in the city the Outlook is about 10 or 15 years and so uh the way I think about it and you can tell me if I'm wrong but…

    3:30:57
  2. 02

    Speaker after speaker in public comment asked the council to fund the arts and an arts master plan.

    49:20
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    What councilmembers said

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    Valerie Amezcua
    Valerie AmezcuaMayor

    Perfect. Thank you. I know the downtown business area will be very happy. I know as Councilman Hernandez was talking about, they talk about that quite a bit. So I'm also in agreement regarding Sunday parking. I think, I know we make money off of parking, but…

    3:08:04
    David Penaloza
    David PenalozaCouncilmember

    torn down does that come with a four million dollar cost so I don't know where this numbers coming from but if we could get a breakdown of this four million dollars to relocate the police department it shouldn't be included as part of the the park that wasn't…

    1:34:34
    Johnathan Ryan Hernandez
    Johnathan Ryan HernandezCouncilmember

    fund. And so there are a couple of departments that are not at the million-dollar threshold through the cannabis fund, and I'd like to create some equity there. So what I would like to see is for us to move $1 million from the $1.8 that PD currently has. I'd…

    1:38:06
    Jessie Lopez
    Jessie LopezCouncilmember

    three I do want to make a request that we that we and hopefully the council council will support the three million allocation for all alleys in the city the Outlook is about 10 or 15 years and so uh the way I think about it and you can tell me if I'm wrong but…

    3:30:57
  3. 03

    Several questioned the roughly 1.7 million dollars the city pays the Bowers Museum each year.

    2:10:49
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    Valerie Amezcua
    Valerie AmezcuaMayor

    Perfect. Thank you. I know the downtown business area will be very happy. I know as Councilman Hernandez was talking about, they talk about that quite a bit. So I'm also in agreement regarding Sunday parking. I think, I know we make money off of parking, but…

    3:08:04
    David Penaloza
    David PenalozaCouncilmember

    torn down does that come with a four million dollar cost so I don't know where this numbers coming from but if we could get a breakdown of this four million dollars to relocate the police department it shouldn't be included as part of the the park that wasn't…

    1:34:34
    Johnathan Ryan Hernandez
    Johnathan Ryan HernandezCouncilmember

    fund. And so there are a couple of departments that are not at the million-dollar threshold through the cannabis fund, and I'd like to create some equity there. So what I would like to see is for us to move $1 million from the $1.8 that PD currently has. I'd…

    1:38:06
    Jessie Lopez
    Jessie LopezCouncilmember

    three I do want to make a request that we that we and hopefully the council council will support the three million allocation for all alleys in the city the Outlook is about 10 or 15 years and so uh the way I think about it and you can tell me if I'm wrong but…

    3:30:57
  4. 04

    Staff explained the city owns the museum and pays under a maintenance agreement dating to 1987, amended in 2001 to run to 2026, with two ten-year options that could extend it to 2046.

    1:57:57
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    What councilmembers said

    Representative transcript excerpts—not inferred positions.

    Valerie Amezcua
    Valerie AmezcuaMayor

    Perfect. Thank you. I know the downtown business area will be very happy. I know as Councilman Hernandez was talking about, they talk about that quite a bit. So I'm also in agreement regarding Sunday parking. I think, I know we make money off of parking, but…

    3:08:04
    David Penaloza
    David PenalozaCouncilmember

    torn down does that come with a four million dollar cost so I don't know where this numbers coming from but if we could get a breakdown of this four million dollars to relocate the police department it shouldn't be included as part of the the park that wasn't…

    1:34:34
    Johnathan Ryan Hernandez
    Johnathan Ryan HernandezCouncilmember

    fund. And so there are a couple of departments that are not at the million-dollar threshold through the cannabis fund, and I'd like to create some equity there. So what I would like to see is for us to move $1 million from the $1.8 that PD currently has. I'd…

    1:38:06
    Jessie Lopez
    Jessie LopezCouncilmember

    three I do want to make a request that we that we and hopefully the council council will support the three million allocation for all alleys in the city the Outlook is about 10 or 15 years and so uh the way I think about it and you can tell me if I'm wrong but…

    3:30:57
  5. 05

    Mayor Pro Tem Phan said the city should expect the operator to maintain the buildings as it would require of any landlord.

    2:28:24
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    What councilmembers said

    Representative transcript excerpts—not inferred positions.

    Valerie Amezcua
    Valerie AmezcuaMayor

    Perfect. Thank you. I know the downtown business area will be very happy. I know as Councilman Hernandez was talking about, they talk about that quite a bit. So I'm also in agreement regarding Sunday parking. I think, I know we make money off of parking, but…

    3:08:04
    David Penaloza
    David PenalozaCouncilmember

    torn down does that come with a four million dollar cost so I don't know where this numbers coming from but if we could get a breakdown of this four million dollars to relocate the police department it shouldn't be included as part of the the park that wasn't…

    1:34:34
    Johnathan Ryan Hernandez
    Johnathan Ryan HernandezCouncilmember

    fund. And so there are a couple of departments that are not at the million-dollar threshold through the cannabis fund, and I'd like to create some equity there. So what I would like to see is for us to move $1 million from the $1.8 that PD currently has. I'd…

    1:38:06
    Jessie Lopez
    Jessie LopezCouncilmember

    three I do want to make a request that we that we and hopefully the council council will support the three million allocation for all alleys in the city the Outlook is about 10 or 15 years and so uh the way I think about it and you can tell me if I'm wrong but…

    3:30:57
  6. 06

    Councilmember Bacerra said it is fine for Santa Ana to have nice things.

    2:19:53
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    What councilmembers said

    Representative transcript excerpts—not inferred positions.

    Valerie Amezcua
    Valerie AmezcuaMayor

    Perfect. Thank you. I know the downtown business area will be very happy. I know as Councilman Hernandez was talking about, they talk about that quite a bit. So I'm also in agreement regarding Sunday parking. I think, I know we make money off of parking, but…

    3:08:04
    David Penaloza
    David PenalozaCouncilmember

    torn down does that come with a four million dollar cost so I don't know where this numbers coming from but if we could get a breakdown of this four million dollars to relocate the police department it shouldn't be included as part of the the park that wasn't…

    1:34:34
    Johnathan Ryan Hernandez
    Johnathan Ryan HernandezCouncilmember

    fund. And so there are a couple of departments that are not at the million-dollar threshold through the cannabis fund, and I'd like to create some equity there. So what I would like to see is for us to move $1 million from the $1.8 that PD currently has. I'd…

    1:38:06
    Jessie Lopez
    Jessie LopezCouncilmember

    three I do want to make a request that we that we and hopefully the council council will support the three million allocation for all alleys in the city the Outlook is about 10 or 15 years and so uh the way I think about it and you can tell me if I'm wrong but…

    3:30:57
  7. 07

    The mayor stopped the discussion and asked staff to bring the contract back at the next meeting.

    1:12:42
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    What councilmembers said

    Representative transcript excerpts—not inferred positions.

    Valerie Amezcua
    Valerie AmezcuaMayor

    Perfect. Thank you. I know the downtown business area will be very happy. I know as Councilman Hernandez was talking about, they talk about that quite a bit. So I'm also in agreement regarding Sunday parking. I think, I know we make money off of parking, but…

    3:08:04
    David Penaloza
    David PenalozaCouncilmember

    torn down does that come with a four million dollar cost so I don't know where this numbers coming from but if we could get a breakdown of this four million dollars to relocate the police department it shouldn't be included as part of the the park that wasn't…

    1:34:34
    Johnathan Ryan Hernandez
    Johnathan Ryan HernandezCouncilmember

    fund. And so there are a couple of departments that are not at the million-dollar threshold through the cannabis fund, and I'd like to create some equity there. So what I would like to see is for us to move $1 million from the $1.8 that PD currently has. I'd…

    1:38:06
    Jessie Lopez
    Jessie LopezCouncilmember

    three I do want to make a request that we that we and hopefully the council council will support the three million allocation for all alleys in the city the Outlook is about 10 or 15 years and so uh the way I think about it and you can tell me if I'm wrong but…

    3:30:57
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Work Study Session

Fiscal Year 2024-25 Budget Work Study Session

1:08:29
  • Staff presented the second work study on the 2024-25 budget, following early direction given on 2 April.1:08:07
  • Residents speaking in public comment asked repeatedly for arts funding and an arts master plan, several contrasting it with the subsidy paid to the Bowers Museum.49:20
  • Staff said the city owns the Charles W.1:07:39
  • Bowers Memorial Museum and that the payment is a property maintenance obligation rather than a subsidy.2:10:49
  • The agreement dates from 1987 and was amended in 2001 to run 39 years to April 2026, with two ten-year extension options that could carry it to 2046.2:15:32
  • The payment was 1.18 million dollars in 2001 and rises annually with inflation, reaching about 1.7 million.2:19:01
  • Mayor Pro Tem Vazquez cited a public financial database showing the museum with 8.2 million dollars of revenue against 5 million of expenses.1:57:57
  • Mayor Pro Tem Phan said she would require any landlord appearing before the council to maintain their own buildings.2:04:02
  • Councilmember Hernandez said the museum receives over a million dollars from the city and supported funding the arts master plan.2:19:53
  • The mayor ended the discussion and asked for it to return with the contract, since the council did not have the document.1:55:29
  • Councilmember Hernandez proposed a 3% tobacco tax to support parks and libraries; staff said state law bars cities from levying one, and that the closest example elsewhere is a cigarette litter fee.1:46:58
  • Mayor Pro Tem Vazquez backed the idea, saying libraries are not a luxury.2:20:24
  • Councilmember Lopez noted she had not taken part in discussions about reassigning a police team, and asked that be on the record.1:52:56
  • Staff said nine officers and a sergeant had been reassigned from that team, and the mayor asked why.2:26:21
  • Police staff said the department spends over six million dollars a year in general fund overtime, separate from event work billed back to organisers.1:12:42
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