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Read the March 7 meeting.

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Unidentified

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Unidentified

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Unidentified

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Unidentified

Thank you.

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Unidentified

Thank you.

1:58
Unidentified

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Unidentified

You

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Unidentified

Thank you.

3:52
Unidentified

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4:44
Unidentified

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5:07
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Unidentified

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8:08
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Unidentified

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Unidentified

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Unidentified

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10:09
Unidentified

You're welcome.

11:05
Unidentified

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Unidentified

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Unidentified

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You're welcome.

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Unidentified

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20:56
Unidentified

You're welcome.

21:42
Unidentified

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Unidentified

Thank you.

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Unidentified

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Unidentified

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Unidentified

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23:58
Unidentified

Thank you.

24:34
Unidentified

Thank you.

25:12
Jennifer L. Hall

I heard you in the chamber.

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Unidentified

Oh yeah, I just heard you. Can you try a few other mics please?

25:31
Jennifer L. Hall

Testing mic.

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Unidentified

Sounds good. And how do I sound?

25:42
Jennifer L. Hall

You manage your desk mic.

25:49
Unidentified

Well, sounds good. Can we try a few of the council member mics please?

25:51
Jennifer L. Hall

Test.

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Unidentified

Sounds good.

25:59
Jennifer L. Hall

Mic seven testing.

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Unidentified

Sounds good. Thank you very much.

26:07
Jennifer L. Hall

Mic test.

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Unidentified

Sounds good.

26:13
Valerie Amezcua

Thank you.

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Unidentified

Thank you.

26:50
Unidentified

What is that there? I just see the session. And then the rest of the room. She's ready. She's like, she's ready. She's gonna take a few minutes. She'll start counting. And then she's ready. I think we're still in there. Yeah. And then she's like, you know. Five or two. I think you're awesome.

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Unidentified

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Unidentified

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Unidentified

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Unidentified

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29:27
Unidentified

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29:51
Unidentified

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Unidentified

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Unidentified

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31:22
Unidentified

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Unidentified

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32:34
Unidentified

Thank you.

32:46
Unidentified

Thank you.

33:14
Unidentified

Thank you.

33:44
Valerie Amezcua

Good evening, Madam Clerk. Please start the meeting at this time. Closed session is starting at 4 p.m. I hereby call a special closed session meeting to order. This meeting is taking place with in-person attendance and by teleconference via Zoom. The public may access the meeting via the Santa Ana YouTube channel or the city's website. Please bear with us as the technology may disrupt the flow of the meeting. Madam Clerk, please conduct roll call. Councilmember Becerra?

34:14
Jennifer L. Hall

Here. Councilmember Hernandez?

34:45
Unidentified

Present.

34:49
Jennifer L. Hall

Councilmember Panaloza?

34:50
Jennifer L. Hall

Councilmember Fan?

34:53
Jennifer L. Hall

Councilmember Vasquez?

34:57
Valerie Amezcua

Here.

35:00
Jennifer L. Hall

Mayor Pro Tem Lopez? Here. Mayor Emescua?

35:01
Valerie Amezcua

Present.

35:04
Jennifer L. Hall

Let the record show all seven members are present, four in person, three via Zoom.

35:05
Valerie Amezcua

Would any members of the council like to take this time to announce their abstentions on closed session items?

35:09
Thai Viet Phan

Yes, Mayor. This is Councilmember Van. I'd like to recuse myself from items 1B and 1C as Dyer 18 LLC is a client of my employer, Rutan and Tucker, So I will not be in the room while it is being discussed. Thank you.

35:17
Valerie Amezcua

Thank you. If there are no others at this time. Madam Clerk, do we have any speakers for closed session items?

35:37
Jennifer L. Hall

We do not. No in-person comments or via Zoom.

35:46
Valerie Amezcua

Great, thank you. We'll now recess to the portion of the meeting to consider the items that are listed on closed session. Thank you.

35:53
Unidentified

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Unidentified

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Unidentified

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You You

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You You

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UnidentifiedItem 1

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UnidentifiedItem 1

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UnidentifiedItem 1

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UnidentifiedItem 1

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UnidentifiedItem 1

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UnidentifiedItem 1

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UnidentifiedItem 1

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UnidentifiedItem 1

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UnidentifiedItem 1

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UnidentifiedItem 1

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Unidentified

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1:17:51
Unidentified

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1:23:03
Unidentified

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1:23:27
Unidentified

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1:24:02
Unidentified

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1:38:49
Unidentified

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1:39:56
Unidentified

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1:40:45
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1:45:22
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1:46:24
Unidentified

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1:47:32
Unidentified

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2:02:47
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2:03:28
Unidentified

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2:05:07
Unidentified

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2:11:15
Unidentified

You You You You You You

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Unidentified

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2:54:15
Phil Bacerra

Recording in progress.

2:54:49
Unidentified

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2:56:31
Valerie Amezcua

I see some carpenters in the house.

3:00:13
Benjamin Vazquez

Oh, I'm live now. I can't say that.

3:00:19
Valerie Amezcua

Okay, here we go. Madam Clerk, please start the meeting. I hereby call the regular open meeting to order. This meeting is taking place with in-person attendance and by teleconference via Zoom. The public may access the meeting via the Santa Ana YouTube channel or the city's website. Please bear with us as the technology may disrupt the flow of the meeting. Madam Clerk, please conduct roll call.

3:00:21
Jennifer L. Hall

Councilmember Becerra?

3:00:47
Jennifer L. Hall

Councilmember Hernandez? Present. Councilmember Penaloza?

3:00:49
Jennifer L. Hall

Councilmember Fan? Here. Councilmember Vasquez? Present. Mayor Pro Tem Lopez?

3:00:54
Jennifer L. Hall

Mayor Mesquia? Present. Record show six members present. One five in person, one via Zoom.

3:01:01
Valerie Amezcua

Perfect. Thank you. Madam Court, before we proceed for the Pledge of Allegiance, please make any announcements.

3:01:08
Jennifer L. Hall

To request to speak on agenda or non-agenda items within the city's jurisdiction, please dial star nine from your phone or click the button labeled Raise Hand from Zoom at this time.

3:01:14
Valerie Amezcua

Thank you. We're going to do the Pledge of Allegiance right now. We're going to have Rich Gomez come on up and lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance, followed by words of inspiration by pastor Ivan Pitts.

3:01:27
Valerie Amezcua

Mr. Gomez, can you please speak into the mic?

3:01:44
Unidentified

Yes. Jesus. You're going to put me at pressure. All right, ready to begin. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

3:01:47
Valerie Amezcua

Pastor Pitts, please.

3:02:11
Unidentified

Good evening. It is such a great pleasure and an honor to be here with you all today. The last time I was here was just last month, and you all honored us with our 100th anniversary proclamation. And I just want to say thank you. You blessed us and we will never forget your generosity and kindness. I served in the United States Navy way back in the day, I won't say the year. And when we graduated called Pass and Review, there were four flags that were in the front line of our company as we crossed. One flag said C139, that was the name of our company. Another flag said Hall of Fame because we had reached a distinction.

3:02:15
Unidentified

A third flag was the flag of the United States Navy, but the flag that was in the center, it was the tallest and it was the largest, was the United States of America flag. Our company commanders told us that in our lives we will hold many flags that mean many things, but we must always understand what is central and what flies the biggest and what's central in our lives. Me as a Christian, that center flag is the flag of love. And I challenge us to concentrate and to think about what flags we fly, but what flies high

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Unidentified

and what flies center and what guides us as we move forward. Let us pray.

3:03:34
Unidentified

Oh, I like claps.

3:03:42
Unidentified

By my wisdom, kings reign and rulers make laws that are just. By my help, princes govern and all nobles rule on this earth. I love those who love me and those who seek will find me. Thank you, O Lord, for all the civil servants. Thank you for their hard work and their sacrifice. May you continue to bless them and their families. May your generosity give them wisdom and discerning hearts to skillfully govern our beautiful and precious city.

3:03:45
Unidentified

Give our mayor, our city manager, our councilmen and women, leaders and staff, give them wisdom that they may solve problems, work for unity and fight for justice to bring order, stability, prosperity to our beloved community as we seek to live out out of many we are one. We pray this in the mighty name of God our Father that

3:04:24
Valerie Amezcua

all the people say amen. Thank you so much. Thank you Pastor.

3:04:55
Valerie Amezcua

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

3:05:08
Valerie Amezcua

ALL RIGHT, THE FIRST ONE IS THE CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION. OH, THAT'S MINE, HUH?

3:05:16
Valerie Amezcua

I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE THE CITY'S EXECUTIVE ASSISTANTS AND EXECUTIVE SECRETARIES IN HONOR OF WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, CAN YOU JOIN ME, PLEASE, OR LADIES?

3:05:24
Valerie Amezcua

One or two, you're going to have to speak, so you better pick now.

3:06:08
Valerie Amezcua

Well, it's Women's History Month, and who better to honor than the backbone of all the department heads? We don't see them very often, and you don't hear from them very often, but they're so, so very important. And so we wanted to honor them this month. Women's History Month is a month-long celebration of women's accomplishments and contributions. During this month, we highlight the contributions of women to events in history and in modern society. Joining us tonight are the women of the city of Santa Ana, the driving force behind the mayor, the council, and the executive management team. Rosa Flores.

3:06:15
Valerie Amezcua

You gotta wave. Wave when I say your name. Rosa has to work with me. I feel bad for her sometimes. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. She's wonderful to me. She's wonderful to me. Yesenia Cruz. Angie Morris.

3:06:59
Valerie Amezcua

Melanie Torres. Fatima Arasso. Elizabeth Plotnick.

3:07:20
Valerie Amezcua

Lori Ortiz, Kristen Andrade, Alice Apulveda, Cynthia Mora, Susanna St. Clair, Stella Fajardo, and Bianca Zerrida.

3:07:32
Valerie Amezcua

These women spend the bulk of their time organizing, planning, strategizing, mapping, calculating, you name it, handling calendars and phone calls, and people who call and complain sometimes. But they do amazing work. They are the true gatekeepers, the confidants, and overall support system to the city of Santa Ana. They are also known to be powerful influencers a title earned by providing extensive value not only to the executive and our elected official they support but also to the entire city and

3:07:59
Valerie Amezcua

its constituency without these women we would not be able to deliver efficient public services to ensure public safety a prosperous economic environment opportunities for our youth and a high quality of life for our residents in honor of Women's History Month we the mayor and the council and I would say all of our leadership we'd like to thank you for all that you do for your sacrifices for your dedication and for your patience and you and I really want to give them a round of applause please please

3:08:37
Valerie Amezcua

I have been here a short time and in the short time that I've been here I can tell you that they are all truly truly the backbone of this city and they're amazing women all of them so I'm gonna select two of you unless you want two volunteers to come up and say something

3:09:19
Unidentified

don't be shy now come on Rosa that's right well mayor and City Council thank you so much for this recognition we are humbled but ecstatic to be to be recognized today and I want you to know that whether we are talking to a constituent a resident a business owner or anyone from the community we treat them with respect we're polite to them and professional and we do that every day knowing that we represent our executive directors and our mayor and

3:09:37
Unidentified

City Council and we do it because we love the city of Santa Ana thank you thank you so much

3:10:16
Valerie Amezcua

Come on, everybody, Senna. All right.

3:10:35
Unidentified

Thank you. And like Rosa said, we love this city. We are passionate about what we do, and that's why I think we all do a great job. And it's all a team effort here. So thank you so much, everybody.

3:10:39
Valerie Amezcua

Again, ladies, thank you. I'd like to invite the council to come down so we can all fit into a picture because we should all be in the picture with them. yeah

3:10:58
Thai Viet Phan

someone photoshopped me in the picture

3:11:11
David Penaloza

we're standing back here so that we can all First, congratulations. I'm going to stand back here, okay?

3:11:22
Valerie Amezcua

I'm going to have to get close to you.

3:11:38
Johnathan Ryan Hernandez

You guys don't mind. I'm very lucky to have you.

3:11:44
Valerie Amezcua

You guys want to squeeze it?

3:11:49
Unidentified

We can. I'm going to have to get close to you. You guys don't mind. I got it, I got it, you're good.

3:11:51
Unidentified

All right, congratulations.

3:12:10
Phil Bacerra

So conveniently while I'm down here I'm just going to go ahead and grab the mic and ask if uh robin mcnair uh would join me up here yes please

3:12:47
Phil Bacerra

while robin's coming up robin's bringing a contingent from valley high school which i'm very happy to say is in ward four so glad to see valley high school in the house

3:13:03
Unidentified

hi guys hi guys

3:13:15
Phil Bacerra

So tonight, accepting this proclamation, declaring March as Arts and Education Month is Robin McNair, who's our Visual and Performing Arts Coordinator at the Santa Ana Unified School District. And, very importantly, my appointment to the Arts and Culture Commission here in the city. And I believe you're in your second term as chair, correct?

3:13:25
Phil Bacerra

All right. See, all good things are coming out of Ward 4 tonight. All right. Joining Robin tonight are several Valley High School students involved in the SAUSD arts education programs. So we have Andrew Hernandez. Andrew, where are you? Hey, Andrew. Jordan Ramos. Okay. Jocelyn Acosta. Jocelyn. Matthew Morales. All right, Matthew. Sorry, I butchered that. Mayra Omendo, there you are, and Jesus Amaro. Not here tonight? I'm going to go to the airport. Okay, perfect. Thank you for the assist.

3:13:47
Phil Bacerra

And also Amy Beltran.

3:14:28
Phil Bacerra

And SAUSD Arts Curriculum Specialist, Sylvia Cuevas.

3:14:34
Unidentified

She's in the audience actually recording this. Okay.

3:14:37
Phil Bacerra

And she's got her hand up, beautiful. So it is important to take this opportunity to remind everyone how valuable arts education is and the potential that it cultivates. Arts education, which includes dance, music, theater, literary, culinary, media, and visual arts, and all its forms, is an essential part of basic education for all of our youth from early childhood all the way through college. So to provide that balanced learning and to develop the full potential of their minds. Arts is essential in redefining excellence in education and development of the whole child in order to raise the next generation of leaders and innovators.

3:14:41
Phil Bacerra

Arts education has many benefits for students, from developing valuable skills to providing an outlet for self-expression. With well-planned instruction and activities in the arts, children develop initiative, creative ability, self-expression, self-reflection, thinking skills, discipline, heightened appreciation of beauty, and cross-cultural understanding. Just a few things, right? We encourage the community to celebrate the arts with meaningful student activities and programs that demonstrate learning and understanding in both visual and performing arts. I want to thank Robin

3:15:23
Phil Bacerra

and SAUSD for making the arts such a prominent and valued component of our youth's curriculum and helping to ensure a culturally enriched future for our youth and for our city. So tonight it is my honour on behalf of the Santa Ana City Council to declare March as Arts and Education Month. And with that, I'd like to have Robin say a few words.

3:15:59
Unidentified

There you go. Thank you so much. Thank you, Councilman Becerra. I appreciate the opportunity. And many of you may have attended Boga de Oro on Saturday. That is the kickoff officially for Arts and Education Month every year. But more importantly, why are we here? Because of these people. And not only is it just within the school district, there's many artists and arts and culture organizations in Santa Ana where we have a very arch-rich city who provide and support our students with arts experiences and arts learning. So thank you to you and the city council and all of the women in the history who helped

3:16:21
Unidentified

support those things, Bianca who supports the Arts and Culture Commission in particular. It is my honor to support and serve these opportunities and to recognize our youth here and our teachers, our educators who support in the school district. So thank you for being here and doing this.

3:17:00
Phil Bacerra

Well with that if my colleagues would like to come down I'd like to go ahead and have a picture with everybody if you'd like to join us.

3:17:23
Thai Viet Phan

Please Photoshop me into this one too.

3:17:35
Unidentified

I'm also a product of SAUSD. I've been living in the city my entire life, chose to come back and teach here. The arts, I am the example of what the arts can do. had it not been for my music classes I would have never graduated from high school I would have never even gone to school so I am just thrilled and proud to be able to share that love for the arts with students and I hope that everyone kind of gets the chance to experience the the the power that the arts can have on our students regardless of what it is music dance visual arts it's important to us as humans it's the art of being human and so I'm really

3:18:44
Unidentified

happy that our city is also supportive in that.

3:19:26
Unidentified

I think their presence speaks for the power of the people in the arts.

3:19:32
Unidentified

Andrew, Andrew.

3:19:50
Unidentified

Hi, my name is Andrew Hernandez, and I'm just very happy to be here and be here with one of my favorite teachers that I love and adore, and I'm just very glad to be here, that's all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

3:19:53
Unidentified

Hi, my name's Alia Cortez, and I'd just like to say I'm so grateful to be here and to have opportunities like this here and having my very teacher my very nice teacher miss Beltran to have us all be here and Vasquez he's like such a good history teacher we love Vasquez just saying yeah

3:20:14
Phil Bacerra

thank you let's give these guys one more round of applause

3:20:40
Valerie Amezcua

MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT OUT OF CLOSED SESSION?

3:20:52
Unidentified

THANK YOU. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, OF THE ITEMS CONSIDERED ON TONIGHT'S CLOSED SESSION.

3:21:00
Valerie Amezcua

CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER?

3:21:07
Unidentified

YES, SORRY. OF THE ITEMS CONSIDERED ON TONIGHT'S CLOSED SESSION AGENDA, THERE IS NO REPORTABLE ACTION.

3:21:08
Valerie Amezcua

PERFECT. THANK YOU. THIS IS THE TIME OF THE MEETING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO RECEIVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA AND NON AGENDA ITEMS. PURSUANT TO THE BROWN ACT, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT ENTER INTO DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME. WE WILL NOW HEAR FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER FIRST AND THEN HEAR FROM THOSE ON THE CONFERENCE CALL OR ZOOM. MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANYONE WANTING TO SPEAK ON THE CONFERENCE CALL OR ZOOM?

3:21:17
Jennifer L. Hall

YES, THERE IS ONE SPEAKER.

3:21:45
Valerie Amezcua

ONE SPEAKER? YES. OKAY, PERFECT. LET ME GO THROUGH THE ONES THAT ARE PRESENT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO THAT WAY.

3:21:46
Valerie Amezcua

MAY I HAVE ZACH CANTOR ANAYA COME UP, FOLLOWED BY STEPHEN TANKREDI. I APOLOGIZE I SAID THAT WRONG. If you could just come up so be ready to speak, please. Zach Cantore, please thank you.

3:22:00
Unidentified

Good evening, Mayor and Council members. Thank you for having us in this session this evening. I'm here to talk about item number 21, which is exploring the possibilities for converting the Riverview golf course into a park for all community members. We'd really love to see that happen. And I have a few things to share with you about our organization the wildlands conservancy we're a private nonprofit organization that has been a leading advocate for the Santa Ana River Trail for over two decades our organization also manages California's largest nonprofit major preserve system and hosts over 60,000 students to our

3:22:16
Unidentified

preserves each and every year to give more opportunities like those young people we just saw up here learning about the arts to learn about the outdoors We see that the Santa Ana River Trail has become a passport to nature for millions of Southern Californians whose daily lives are improved by everything that this trail offers. In 2014, the Wildlands Conservancy partnered with community members and elected officials, including State Senator at the time, Lou Correa, to create the Santa Ana River Conservancy, which is now administered by the California Coastal Conservancy.

3:22:54
Unidentified

and that program has brought together many members from different communities up and down the river from Santa or excuse me San Bernardino Riverside and here in Orange County to come up with dozens of projects to improve access and restore habitat along the river and we're now pursuing additional funding from the state this year for continuing that program this evening I want to I want to speak about the conversion of the golf course to becoming one of the city's premier nature parks. And it fits superbly with a number of important worldwide efforts.

3:23:32
Unidentified

The first of these is the 30 by 30 initiative, which demonstrates a real commitment by the state and federal leaders to get serious about climate change impacts and, excuse me, chart a new course in equitable access to the life-changing and beneficial aspects OF OUTDOORS, ESPECIALLY FOR MEMBERS OF UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. THE SECOND IMPORTANT THING IS BUILDING THAT ACCESS FOR PEOPLE TO ALSO BENEFIT THE ENVIRONMENT, AND AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE LOS ANGELES RIVER MASTER PLAN THAT HAS BEEN RECENTLY APPROVED

3:24:12
Unidentified

TO THE TUNE OF OVER $20 BILLION. IN MY FINAL MOMENTS HERE OF THIS COMMENT WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF SANTA ANA FOR THE CURRENT GENERATION AND FUTURE GENERATIONS AND PLEASE TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HELP US CONVERT THAT RIVER VIEW GOLF COURSE JUST FOR A SELECT VIEW FOR EVERY ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. I APPRECIATE THE TIME. THANK YOU.

3:24:52
Benjamin Vazquez

STEPHEN TANKREDI. I HOPE I DIDN'T SAY THAT WRONG. STEPHEN TANKREDI OR TANKREDI? NO?

3:25:20
Valerie Amezcua

Going once, going twice.

3:25:31
Valerie Amezcua

Boris Gressley.

3:25:35
Unidentified

Boris Gressley.

3:25:42
Unidentified

Good evening, Mayor and City Council Members. My name is Boris Gressley and I'm here on behalf of the Carpenters Contractors Cooperation Committee and I'm also joined here tonight by Rich Gomez, Vice President of the Carpenters Carpenters Union Local 714, and many rank and file members of the Carpenters Union as well. In our day-to-day, we come across daily examples of worker abuse and see the emotional and financial toll it takes on them and their families. We see workers sharing and dividing checks among themselves in order to pay labor traffickers a kickback.

3:25:46
Unidentified

We see workers being misclassified as a means to steal wages. And we see workers having to deal with balance checks and stolen overtime pay. These unlawful activities undermine the construction industry and has a negative impact to us all. As such, we are glad to see the city council interested in taking steps to ensure working class families are being protected and applaud the city for actually having a contractor

3:26:27
Unidentified

disclosure ordinance which we believe can be strengthened and we applaud City Councilwoman fan for bringing the proposed amendments forward we believe it's going to create a level playing field and we also believe that it's going to create a culture of legal and safety compliance here in the city of Santa Ana. Thank you very much.

3:27:04
Valerie Amezcua

Thank you. May Tanner.

3:27:32
Unidentified

Hello everyone my name is May Tanner. Thank you for having me here. Oh whoa there someone stole my outfit. I am a Santa Ana College student. I've been a resident of Santa Ana for about seven years now all spent at Red Roof Inn Santa Ana. I haven't spoken in front of a crowd in a while. Living at the Red Roof Inn has been quite an experience for me. I've seen what the housing crisis in California has unleashed upon a lot of residents and from all walks of life.

3:27:41
Unidentified

I've seen great-grandmothers whose families have abandoned them, taking care of their great-girls, three great-grandchildren who are, you know, sick and ailing themselves, trying to raise them. And I want to applaud the city for taking direction to alleviate the housing crisis and the recent constructions near town and country for apartment buildings, the redevelopment of the main place mall. And I also support the redevelopment of the golf park to a public land that can be used by all Santa Ana residents. Thank you for your time today.

3:28:23
Valerie Amezcua

Candace Hughes-Lopez.

3:29:06
Unidentified

Hello everybody, thank you so much today for having me speak. Hello council, new mayor, staff. My name is Candace Haas Lopez. I'm here to speak on two things. First thing is I'm the director and founder of Orange County Normal, that's a chapter of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws. We're actually celebrating our 20-year anniversary this year. and one of the initiatives this year that we're putting forward is a immersive cannabis career exploration course and what we're gonna do is we're offering this to Santa Ana and Costa Mesa residents as you all know we have 30

3:29:16
Unidentified

cannabis dispensaries many manufacturing distribution centers but I don't think we have enough Santa Ana residents actually working in this facilities so the purpose of this course that we're putting on is to offer residents who have no experience in the cannabis industry to come and to be educated about the basics of cannabis and then we're actually going to take them on a tour through four different types of facilities through a cultivation in the city a manufacturing a distribution and then finally through a retail establishment a lot of people don't know necessarily know what the best fit is

3:29:49
Unidentified

for them in the industry a lot of them just think that working at a retail outlet is the best place but maybe they'd be better suited in a distribution facility or in a manufacturing facility so that's why we're offering this course it's free to residents in Santa Ana and Costa Mesa if anybody's interested you can get a flyer from me. You can also find information at orangecountynormal.org. So I'd invite you guys to apply and to share it with anybody that you know that might be interested in getting involved in the cannabis industry in the city. The second thing is that I'm actually the

3:30:17
Unidentified

community and outreach director for Pharmacy Santa Ana, which is one of your guys' cannabis dispensaries in the city, one of the first ones to open. We are geared towards wellness, towards education, and we work a lot with seniors. I would say we're actually probably the premier cannabis dispensary for seniors. And because of that, we were chosen by CNN to be featured as part of their newest series of weed. It's a series that they've been working on with Dr. Sanjay Gupta. I know that many of you probably saw the first one about 12 years ago that Sanjay Gupta came out and

3:30:46
Unidentified

changed his mind about cannabis after doing a lot of extensive research. Since then, they've done six other pieces. And so they're now ready to shoot their seventh episode. And so they're going to be coming to Pharmacy Santa Ana on March 22nd for our Senior Cannabis Fair. This is something that we actually put on every other month where we invite seniors to come to our facility to get educated on cannabis. We give them a free lunch. We have senior-friendly brands there on site, and then we bring them inside for a tour. So we're really excited to have Dr. Sanjay Gupta coming

3:31:17
Unidentified

with us, coming to see a Santa Ana dispensary and all that we provide to the community. And so this event is open to the public so anybody that would like to join us get educated on cannabis you're welcome to join us pharmacy santa anna march 22nd from 10 a.m until 1 p.m thank you so much thank you for all of your hard work and happy international women's month thank you claudio gallegos

3:31:47
Unidentified

Good evening. Honorable Mayor of Mesquah and council members, thank you for allowing us to share this message about a project that is dear to my heart because of the benefits it will bring our community to our friends and to our neighbors. I am of course referring to the conversion of Riverview Golf Course to open space and parkland, something we desperately need in Santa Ana. As you know, our beloved city severely lacks open spaces and parks that are essential to our physical and mental well-being. In fact, Santa Ana has vastly less park space per person than most other American cities,

3:32:21
Unidentified

and we suffer the consequences on our environment and our health. It is our moral obligation to rectify this situation by creating more parks and open spaces. Imagine a sprawling urban park along the Santa Ana River with undulating hills and wetlands where the people of Santa Ana and our neighbors can gather, walk, relax, picnic, and bike. It is where our students can enjoy outdoor classes and explore nature with their friends and families. It is where our community can enjoy fresh air, watch native wildlife, get physical exercise,

3:33:01
Unidentified

and decompress from the stresses of daily, everyday life. We all know the value of open space and I know that each of you is committed to creating it for our community. The pandemic demonstrated the need for us to pursue every opportunity to expand open space for Santa Ana, especially for our youngest members of our community. This park can be your legacy, an enduring present to our children and grandchildren. We can make Riverview an oasis in our bustling town, which is currently enmeshed in concrete and pavement with scant greenery. A reality by converting the golf course to open space.

3:33:40
Unidentified

In fact, we can make it a gem, an urban park that outshines all others and draws people from around Southern California and beyond. Riverview presents the ideal location for a park and the infrastructure already exists. With ample parking, management, offices, restroom facilities, irrigation systems, and maintenance structures, all the essential facilities are in place. We must not squander this opportunity to develop a highly accessible park in the heart of Santa Ana that will provide countless benefits. I am heartened by your interest in advancing this project.

3:34:21
Unidentified

Together, we can create the recreational and ecological oasis that Santa Ana deserves. Thank you, and this is read on behalf of Congressman Lou Correa.

3:35:00
Valerie Amezcua

Gabriel Montoya.

3:35:15
Unidentified

Good evening, Madam Mayor and City Council. So my name is Gabe Montoya. I'm an EMT here in, well actually not Orange County, in LA County, and I serve at Kaiser Downey Medical Center. But I'm also an executive board member for 100,000 members at SCIU UHW. I represent healthcare workers across the state, many of which we often don't hear about. And so I was pleasantly surprised to see that you guys had acknowledged the women that run this city here in San An, and I had the pleasure of meeting some of them like Yesenia and Angie. And I want to talk about, though, the women in healthcare, the unsung heroes in healthcare.

3:35:22
Unidentified

We often hear about doctors and nurses, but we don't hear about the ones who don't get the media attention. The housekeepers that keep our hospitals running, the CNAs that keep our hospital floors in shape and take care of our patients, the medical assistants who work in our clinics, and are the faces of healthcare across Santa Ana. And the reason why I bring those workers up is because those workers are part of women's history. They do the work that keep our community healthy and safe. But what we don't realize is that many of those workers who do the hardest labor in hospitals are the lowest paid workers in health care.

3:36:01
Unidentified

Often making poverty wages that really affect the way they live, the standard of living that they have outside of work. and it really affects the way they're able to serve their patients when they have to work multiple jobs short-staffed. There is a staffing crisis across California in healthcare. It is a crisis that many people, many elected leaders across the state are not aware of. When we talk to our workers and ask them, what is the number one issue you are facing as a healthcare worker and a union member in a hospital? And the number one answer is always staffing. They are working short staffed.

3:36:41
Unidentified

They are working short staffed because throughout this pandemic, we have done everything in the face of the public to call these workers heroes, but have not done enough to make sure that these workers are paid like the label they're given, to make sure that these workers have the proper staff, to make sure that they are taking care of their patients and providing the best care they can across their communities.

3:37:21
Unidentified

And so I'm coming here today because we want to work with the City Council of Santa Ana to do the work to solve this staffing crisis, to bring dignity back to the work that takes place in our healthcare facilities, and to make sure that the people that are taking care of us are also taking care of themselves. And I want to close with this, as we celebrate Women's History Month, let's remind ourselves and remember the women, the predominantly women of color that do the jobs that can pay the lowest pay in hospitals, but yet take the largest amount of labor to accomplish. Thank you for hearing me out.

3:37:44
Valerie Amezcua

Thank you. Roberto Guzman?

3:38:23
Valerie Amezcua

Roberto Guzman?

3:38:27
Unidentified

to end with the situation of the ambulances. As a resident of the city of Santa Ana, I thank you all the cooperation that we have been given, the Department, the police and Code Enforcement. Thank you very much. Mr. Becerra, thank you for having brought this topic to the table. And thank you for the support of all of you. Thank you. Thank you.

3:38:59
Unidentified

Good evening to all. Good evening Mayor Amesqua and thank you. Thank you to council members as well. On behalf of the food sellers, food workers selling in Santa Ana, I want to thank you for all your support, all that you've done to help with the situation with the food vendors, the street vendors in Santa Ana. And as a resident of Santa Ana, I want to thank you for all your help, the help of the health department, the police department, and code enforcement. Thank you and thank you for Mr. Becerra. Thank you as well for bringing this issue forward. Thank you to the city of Santa Ana.

3:39:30
Valerie Amezcua

Benacio Chavez. Thank you.

3:40:11
Unidentified

Oyendo al pastor diciendo que tenemos que tener una bandera que represente lo que realmente la gente necesita, yo pienso que lo que la gente necesita es seguridad.

3:40:42
Unidentified

Después la otra señorita dijo que ama Santana. Yo también amo Santana y sé que ustedes también aman Santana. The Lord just said, he gave us the thanks for all the effort that they did to solve the problem of the ambulance vendors. And I tell you that if we work together, including me, we can solve problems that the city has currently. And one of them, sorry if I put the finger on the trigger, is the main street.

3:40:57
Unidentified

Maine. La semana pasada hubo otro accidente muy grave. Ahora le tocó a un negocio que está en el 505 North Maine. El carro tumbó dos palmeras, tumbó un poste y se metió al negocio. Esos accidentes están provocados por esos maceteros que pusieron. Tenemos que hacer algo para quitarlos. that was not a beautiful Santa Ana. I was listening to the city when I was interviewed in Spanish television

3:41:33
Unidentified

and said that they had made it to be beautiful Santa Ana. Honestly, I can't offend anyone, I can say that it's a way to bring beautiful Santa Ana. The beauty can be like what they want to do in the golf park. Those are the beauty of Santana. Those macetons are causing that one day, someone innocent will be able to get lost. I understand that many times it's because of the speed that they carry on,

3:42:13
Unidentified

or sometimes they get sick from the weekend from the center. but if no were there in those maseteros, maybe we would not put in danger to the people and I know that many of you didn't have when they approved those projects but now they are here and you now can be the heroes in solving that problem if something happens they will say, the Mr. Venancio told us, and we did not we did not do this if I can serve in algo como parte del problema yo estoy para servirles sir I'm sorry your time is up

3:42:52
Unidentified

see gracias muy amable me salio mejor que lo escrito

3:43:33
Unidentified

good evening madam mayor good evening City Council members and I prepared some remarks but I think I'm going to just I'm not going to read them I'm going to speak from the heart and and the pastor said earlier that we should have a flag, a flag that represents what the people truly need, and I think that what the people truly need is safety. A lady said a little while ago that she loves Santa Ana. Well, I too love Santa Ana, as well as you. You love Santa Ana, and the gentleman before me said that he thanks you for the efforts to help with the street vendors,

3:43:45
Unidentified

and if we work together I think that we can solve many issues and work together I include myself we can solve many issues in the city and I'm here I'm back again and I'm back at it again with the issues on Main Street last week there was a very bad accident at 501 North Main Street where a car hit two palm trees and hit a post and went into a business. And I think this is due to the planters that you have put there. We need to remove those planters. We were told that they were there to beautify

3:44:21
Unidentified

Santa Ana. The spokesperson for the city, when interviewed by the television, said that they were placed to beautify the city. But I think, in my opinion, that's a mediocre way to beautify the city. I think some better way to beautify the city could be like we were talking about with the golf course. Those planters cause innocent people to get hurt and I think the problem is speeding cars perhaps or drunk people coming out at night and some of the problems are caused by that but if I don't think the the planters are the best solution some of the

3:45:02
Unidentified

planters you some of you were not here when the planters were approved but now you are here and you can help solve this problem be hurt before something happens and when something happens you're gonna say Venancio came here and told us so I'm here to help if you need me and this is better than my written

3:45:42
Valerie Amezcua

THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO THE CALL THAT'S ON, DESY REYES.

3:46:03
Valerie Amezcua

I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU WERE ON CALL. COME ON UP DESY.

3:46:12
Unidentified

I LIKE YOUR SWEATSHOCK. GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M HERE TO SAY A FEW THANK YOU'S TONIGHT.

3:46:18
Unidentified

LET ME START. I MOVED INTO SADDLEBACK VIEW. My name is Desi with Saddleback View Neighborhood Association. So I moved into the neighborhood back in 1991, and I've been there since. I've seen the neighborhood improved with the help of the residents, the help of the city.

3:46:26
Unidentified

When I moved there, since I've been there, there's only been one street light on a couple of blocks, on Linwood and on McClay. We have very beautiful mature trees, canopy trees, jacarona trees. So even that one street light, it's covered by the beautiful canopy of the Jack on the Tree. So it's very dark. And a lot of people don't feel safe walking. It's a safe neighborhood, but it's just difficult to walk at night with one street light. So it's taken me, the neighborhood, you know, what, 32 years now? And we're finally getting street lights.

3:46:43
Unidentified

I don't know if it's because the ward system or we have funding now, but thank you, Council Member Jesse Lopez, for working for us to get streetlights. I see that it's on the agenda tonight, and I highly recommend that you guys approve that. We've been waiting for it for the last, like I said, 32 years, and we're looking forward to nice streetlights. And we'll make it safer. that's one component of public safety, better lighting in our neighborhoods. The other items that I want to talk about is a couple of years ago,

3:47:20
Unidentified

Caltrans allocated $1 billion to enhance our freeways. Again, with the help of Council Member Jesse Lopez and our previous mayor, we got some funding from Caltrans, almost about $2 million. And that has improved our neighborhood. For example, the court referral, what was that? Okay, the court referral parking lot at Mayberry and First Street by Santa Ana Zoo. It's been a blighted parking lot for many years. We're getting new iron fencing, new asphalt, landscaping.

3:48:00
Unidentified

it'll be a beautiful enhancement to that gateway to Santa Ana Zoo okay in addition to that our neighborhood we have two cul-de-sacs at 6th Street and at the end of Eastside for many years we had and they end up at the Cal Jones right away chain link fence is always getting broken into we finally got iron fencing from Cal Jones will be installed there it will enhance the neighborhood too. So I wanted to thank you all for your efforts and continue to do that for the resident Santa Ana. Thank you. Thank you.

3:48:41
Valerie Amezcua

It sounds like somebody's phone is on. I don't know if it's up here on the dais but something. Am I the only one who can hear this? If you have your phone going can you turn it off please thank you all right we have one caller on

3:49:22
Jennifer L. Hall

please yes mayor speakers on the queue may provide their comments on agenda or non agenda items within the city's jurisdiction when unmuted please announce your name ward or neighborhood that you reside in within the city of Santa Ana for the record to request to speak dial star 9 from your phone or select raise hand from zoom now and before moving on to the colors I'll summarize the emails that were received as of today. There was one email related to item 16, the resolution to prioritize health and safety in support with suggested changes. One resident related to item 18, the senior citizen commission report recommending changes

3:49:42
Jennifer L. Hall

to the report. One resident related to item 21, Riverview golf course in support of the item. And on non-agenda items, one resident related to workers comp financial reserves, 18 residents on the condition of city parks and streets, and two residents supporting a bill for child safety programs.

3:50:15
Unidentified

okay so the first caller Tim Johnson hi good evening mayor council and staff Tim Johnson Ward 3 here wish I could be there in person but with it being tax season things get hectic for me and I just kind of swing it especially because just realized one of the agenda items is important to me over the past few years I have heard a few on the current and prior dais a sort of issue a call to the public about when housing projects are before the council many in the public are quick to deride or complain about how the city is doing or

3:50:32
Unidentified

not doing but we sometimes are very slow to offer encouragement and thanks well before you tonight is a project that has been in front of multiple city commissions along with this council and past ones too each time you have seen each time you have seen the vision and wanted to help each vote has been and unanimous in support. Tonight, I am asking you for your continued support of agenda item number 13, which will provide permanent supportive housing for those that are in need and done in a caring, compassionate, encouraging manner. I am here tonight to say thank you. Thank you for your support of Wise Place.

3:51:09
Unidentified

Thank you for your support of this project and for the other projects that come before you. And of course, thank you to the staff for keeping all the things on track. this is a well-deserved thanks to each and every single one of you this project is quite close to where I live and I'm glad to say that many of my neighbors have similarly supported this project and wise place thank you to the community also unless I forget those council members mayors and staff of the past that have also supported this project it's been a long time coming thank Thank you to each and every one of you that are involved with this project.

3:51:46
Unidentified

With that, that is it for me. Thank you.

3:52:26
Unidentified

Hello council, my name is Fernando Delgado and I wanted to comment on item 16, the resolution. I'm just gonna read the whole thing out there for those who may not have heard it. Resolution of the city council of the city of Santa Ana affirming its dedication and its priority to protect the health, safety, and welfare of its residents, visitors, and business owners in the enforcement of state sidewalk vendor regulations. The Federal Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 and other disability access standards and all local regulations pertaining to the use and maintenance of public sidewalks and other pedestrian pathways.

3:52:37
Unidentified

and urging the state legislature of the state of California to amend the state law and allow local jurisdictions the right of self-determination to enact local sidewalk regulations. To me, when I read this, it sounds like not so coded language for we don't want street vendors in our city. And as a resident of the city of Santana, this resolution, it just sounds gross in my mouth to say. For me, my family and I, we love street vendors. We support street vendors. growing up in a Mexican immigrant family, street vendors were an integral part of our community. And this resolution just sounds like a slap in the face

3:53:09
Unidentified

of street vendors trying to get by. So if there is valid reason for this resolution to be made on behalf of the city of Santana, on behalf of the residents of Santana, I feel it's incumbent on the council to make the case for why we would want to have this kind of language embedded in our council. So I encourage the council to review this resolution, reject it if there's no way that we can clarify why this is needed in the first place. Thank you.

3:53:43
Jennifer L. Hall

Caller whose number ends in 010.

3:54:10
Unidentified

Hello, can you hear me?

3:54:22
Jennifer L. Hall

Yes, we can hear you. Please proceed.

3:54:27
Unidentified

Okay. Yeah, you can begin my time now. Thank you. Hi, Victor Mendez, Ward 3. I want to start off with just a few responses to the last council meeting. There were some comments made about Measure X and somehow the absorption of Measure X funds by the police officers. I went through the Measure X data and found that, you know, police officers are, in fact, part of this Measure X equation. In fact, there's about 33% unrestricted funds which a portion can go to parks, police, fire, whatever, but to assert that somehow the police are somehow absorbing no direct for their own benefits is absolutely preposterous and ludicrous.

3:54:29
Unidentified

It's okay to debate these issues, but we need to really stick to the facts. In that respect, I would think we should look at the Cannabis Benefit Fund with shifted significant revenue from the park to non-cannabis-related code enforcement. Again, this is money that was set aside from the park, that went to non-cannabis code enforcement. The only council member that I know that voted against was council member Hernandez. All the other current members of the council voted for it, including those who are currently under possible recall. With respect to workers' compensation, two weeks ago I conveyed some information,

3:55:12
Unidentified

a very high level observation about the state of workers' compensation reserves, an amount totaling about 38 million. A recent news article came out that kind of validates these observations. Now, it relates to a fraud situation, but there's a lot of information in that news article that really indicates a deep assessment to how workers' comp is being handled, but more importantly, how they're being closed. There's simply not more to say otherwise, other than the fact the city manager still owes counsel a long-outstanding plan to address this critical problem. I have number 18, the Senior Citizen Commission.

3:55:49
Unidentified

The report takes an archaic approach for the participation of older Americans, absolutely archaic and out of date. Today's older Americans have great challenges. We have job challenges. We have housing problems. We have public safety problems and many other areas. Even today, the Wall Street Journal reported that older Americans, like 55 and older, are now taking care of their counterparts or their peers because there's simply not enough people to take care of them. Older Americans also face job discrimination.

3:56:23
Unidentified

Many residents come to me saying they can't get jobs because they're simply old enough and people will not hire them simply because of their age. And that's just a flat-out shame. It should be unacceptable to anybody on that diocese. You know, older Americans are at greater risk of becoming homeless. Older Americans have less food security. Older Americans in Orange County are facing a food cliff brought on by the end of the pandemic supplement. In that respect, the city council has failed to hold the city manager to actually create some type of mechanism to help out seniors through revised funding.

3:56:54
Jennifer L. Hall

Sir, your time is up.

3:57:27
Unidentified

What I've stated are conflict issues and it's doubtful they can be addressed with the two-seat currently proposed by parks and residents. Sir, your time is up. I recommend the council simply. One second, please. Your time is up now. I simply ask the council. Cut it. Cut it.

3:57:28
Jennifer L. Hall

Thank you. Mayor, that concludes the comments on Zoom.

3:57:42
Valerie Amezcua

Perfect. Thank you.

3:57:45
Valerie Amezcua

All right. At this time, we're going to go to the consent calendar. Items 3 through 16 are before us. Council members, please announce any items that you'll be abstaining from due to conflict. And if there's any request to pull an item from the consent calendar for further discussion. Councilman Hernandez?

3:57:52
Valerie AmezcuaItem 3

Any items?

3:58:12
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 3

Not at the moment.

3:58:14
Valerie AmezcuaItem 3

Councilmember Becerra?

3:58:16
Valerie AmezcuaItem 3

Councilman Panalosa?

3:58:19
David PenalozaItem 3

Just item 10, Madam Mayor.

3:58:21
Valerie AmezcuaItem 3

Councilman Vasquez? Item 16, please. Mayor Pro Tem Lopez?

3:58:24
Jessie LopezItem 3

No items. Thank you.

3:58:32
Valerie AmezcuaItem 3

At this time, can you state your name and make a motion, one of the council, please, so we can approve the rest of the items?

3:58:34
Jennifer L. HallItem 3

Mayor, that Councilmember Pham?

3:58:40
Valerie AmezcuaItem 3

I'm sorry?

3:58:41
Jennifer L. HallItem 3

Councilman. Mayor.

3:58:44
Thai Viet PhanItem 3

Oh, I apologize. Yes. Sorry, I can't be there because I have COVID. But I would like to recuse myself from item 13. As Jamboree Housing Corporation is a client of my employer, Rittana Tucker, and so if that is pulled, I will leave the room. Thank you.

3:58:46
Phil BacerraItem 3

Thank you.

3:59:06
Phil BacerraItem 3

Mayor, I'll go ahead and move the balance of the consent calendar.

3:59:08
David PenalozaItem 3

I'll second.

3:59:11
Phil BacerraItem 3

Thank you. At this time, let's prepare to vote.

3:59:12
Jennifer L. HallItem 3

Councilmember Becerra, for the consent calendar, it will have to be a roll call vote with the teleconference.

3:59:18
Valerie AmezcuaItem 3

I'm sorry, we can't hear you.

3:59:23
Jennifer L. HallItem 3

I'm sorry, with the use of teleconference, we do have to do a roll call vote for every vote this evening. So for the consent calendar, with the exceptions of items 10 and 16, which have been pulled for separate discussion, Councilmember Becerra? Yes.

3:59:25
David PenalozaItem 3

And 13, Councilmember Pham is recusing herself.

3:59:38
Jennifer L. HallItem 3

There will be a noted recusal for her on that item, but no other Councilmember pulled it, so there's no separate discussion. Oh, got it.

3:59:42
Phil BacerraItem 3

Still a yes.

3:59:50
Jennifer L. HallItem 3

Okay, thank you. Councilmember Hernandez?

3:59:51
Jennifer L. HallItem 3

Councilmember Penaloza?

3:59:54
Jennifer L. HallItem 3

Councilmember Pham? Yes. Councilmember Vasquez?

3:59:57
Jennifer L. HallItem 3

Mayor Potem Lopez? Yes. Mayor Emescuwa?

4:00:01
Jennifer L. HallItem 3

Okay. Motion carries with seven ayes, NO NAYS AND A NOTED RECUSAL BY COUNCIL MEMBER FAN ON ITEM 13.

4:00:05
Valerie AmezcuaItem 3

OKAY. BEFORE WE GO TO THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED, LET'S DO THE MADAM CLERK, THE APPOINTED MEMBERS TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE, PLEASE. WE HAVE A DAVID CROCKETT TO THE PERSONNEL BOARD, MAYOR PRO TEM LOPEZ AND CARLOS PERREA FOR THE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION.

4:00:12
Jennifer L. HallItem 3

MR. CROCKETT, MR. PERREA, COULD PLEASE COME INSIDE.

4:00:30
UnidentifiedItem 3

Mayor, I believe we need to take a vote.

4:00:45
UnidentifiedItem 3

Oh, I apologize. I apologize. I'm calling consent. Sorry.

4:00:50
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 3

Hi.

4:01:01
UnidentifiedItem 3

Hi. Carlos Perea. Do solemnly swear. Do solemnly swear. Do solemnly swear. Do I support and defend?

4:01:02
UnidentifiedItem 3

The Constitution of the United States. The Constitution of the State of California. The Constitution of the State of California. Against all enemies foreign and defense. against all enemies foreign and domestic.

4:01:11
UnidentifiedItem 5

Faith and allegiance. Through faith and allegiance. The Constitution of the United States. The Constitution of the State of California. Without any mental reservation. Without any mental reservation.

4:01:30
UnidentifiedItem 5

For purpose of elevation. That are well and faithfully discharged.

4:01:54
UnidentifiedItem 5

Well and faithfully discharged. The duties on this time are on. The duties on that.

4:01:59
UnidentifiedItem 5

That there is which I'm about to enter.

4:02:06
Valerie AmezcuaItem 5

Okay, thank you.

4:02:12
UnidentifiedItem 5

Congratulations.

4:02:17
UnidentifiedItem 5

Thank you for serving.

4:02:26
Valerie AmezcuaItem 5

What are we doing? Oh, you're going to take a picture.

4:02:39
Valerie AmezcuaItem 5

MAY I PROTEM LOPES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A PHOTO?

4:02:49
Valerie AmezcuaItem 5

All right, let's move on now. We're going to go to item 10. First item that was being pulled.

4:03:21
David PenalozaItem 5

Thank you, Madam Mayor. I pull item 10, which I'm very supportive of. It's to award a construction contract to Excel Paving in the amount of $1.7 million for the West Willits protected bike lanes from Fairview Street to Rape Street project. Madam City Manager, the reason why I pulled this item is I know that this was part of the capital improvement programs that we, or projects that we approved back in 2019,

4:03:26
David PenalozaItem 5

as part of many capital improvement projects. So I just was trying to ask, wanting to ask, what the, if this is a standard normal timeline for projects like this to come before us now for additional approval, how many years after they're approved as a capital improvement project with a certain fiscal budget. Do they come before us again for approval?

4:03:54
Kristine RidgeItem 5

Council member, it would vary based on the project because a lot of the time we have a project in mind, but we haven't assembled all of the funding. And then once you do have a project in mind, you do have to do the design, you have to do the engineering specs, you have to do the bidding process for it, you have to have an available contractor with time to start to get it done. So it varies by type of projects, but it is not out of the norm for a couple years to get some of the larger projects completed.

4:04:22
David PenalozaItem 5

Perfect. Thank you for that. And I pulled this just because it was a perfect example to use with, to show the public. I often get questioned multiple times. It's, hey, you know, these, whether it's street lights to a sidewalk repaving to a restroom, you know, residency these projects approved and then we don't see any action or construction for three four five years down the line and so I wanted to kind of show that these projects often mainly public works often take a long time to execute because of the various sources of funding so just wanted to highlight

4:04:48
David PenalozaItem 5

that and also just wanted to and I feel I got to ask this with every protected bike lane that we construct and madam city manager you know what i'm going to ask uh i know we recently got the the mini street sweeper which i'm i'm supposed to come out soon to see it in action because of all the debris buildup that was happening in these construct protected bike lanes but the landscaping what i hate to see it you know throughout the city is the all concrete or or just plastic delineators used as protected bike lanes, which we've seen on Edinger, hideous, ugly,

4:05:28
David PenalozaItem 5

and they don't do anything to our city in beautifying it. They protect bikers, but they don't beautify because of the aesthetics around it. So can we go over the, just ensure that there's gonna be 100% landscaping on these protected bike lanes?

4:06:08
Kristine RidgeItem 5

I will defer to our Public Works Director. I'm not sure if he has detailed information on the landscaping plans, but ...

4:06:29
Kristine RidgeItem 5

I thought you were going to ask if they were protected, and we did put that in the staff report.

4:06:41
UnidentifiedItem 5

Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, Member of the City Council, Nabil Sabah. In this case, we do have landscaping in the protection of the bike lane. The entire part? A portion of it, as it narrows down, we won't be able to. But if you want more details, I can provide you where the landscaping will be. Because you have to have a certain amount of width for the landscaping. But I can provide you with that information. I don't have it here handy.

4:06:46
David PenalozaItem 5

Perfect. Thank you, Executive Director Saba. And the reason why I also bring that up is because I want to remind Public Works staff that at least a preference of mine is that these protected bike lanes are landscaped as much as we possibly can make them landscape because just it they look nicer and again I think back to the protected bike lanes on Ettinger it does the job but they're plastic delineators not sure if that's temporary but they don't do anything to make our city look nicer so wherever we can to make sure THAT THERE'S GRASS, FLOWERS, WHATEVER WE CAN TO JUST MAKE IT LOOK LANDSCAPE-WISE APPEALING, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

4:07:15
David PenalozaItem 5

AND LET'S ALWAYS KEEP THAT IN MIND. WITH THAT, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS ITEM, MAYOR. ITEM 10. SECOND.

4:07:55
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 5

WELL PREPARED TO VOTE. IF I COULD JUST MAKE A COMMENT.

4:08:01
UnidentifiedItem 5

OH, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD.

4:08:04
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 5

I JUST WANTED TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER PENALOSA FOR COMMENTING ON THIS ITEM. AND HE'S RIGHT. this is a topic many residents ask about is seeing our streets paved or streets well-lit and our residents protected I want to just first and foremost thank our Public Works Department for putting everything that they have into the streets I mean you are seeing your money at work when it comes to the leadership of Public Works so director nobel Saba behalf of the residents of Ward 5 thank you for bringing the protected bike lanes and for fixing our streets. Thank you, sir. I look forward to supporting this item.

4:08:06
Valerie AmezcuaItem 5

Any other comments? Let's prepare to vote. We're going to do a roll call.

4:08:45
Jennifer L. HallItem 5

A motion by Council Member Penaloza, seconded by Council Member Vasquez to approve item 10, a construction contract with Excel paving.

4:08:54
Valerie AmezcuaItem 5

I'm sorry, it was a second by Councilman Becerra.

4:09:01
Jennifer L. HallItem 5

Becerra, okay. My apologies. COUNCIL MEMBER BECERA?

4:09:07
Jennifer L. HallItem 5

COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ?

4:09:13
Jennifer L. HallItem 5

COUNCIL MEMBER PENALOZA?

4:09:16
Jennifer L. HallItem 5

COUNCIL MEMBER FAN? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER VASQUEZ?

4:09:19
Jennifer L. HallItem 5

MAYOR MESCUA?

4:09:25
Jennifer L. HallItem 5

MOTION PASSES WITH SIX EYES AND A TEMPORARY ABSENCE BY MAYOR PROTEM LOPES.

4:09:29
Valerie AmezcuaItem 5

THANK YOU. ITEM 16, PLEASE.

4:09:33
Benjamin VazquezItem 5

I pulled it because of SB 972 and how we're taking it. You have lines, the whereas 16, 17, and 18, where it's blaming 972 for having all these street vendors here. The street vendors started coming before January 1, 2023. We had this issue going back a few months before that. and I don't blame 972. Now 972 doesn't protect street vendors that have more than one employee. 972 has a limited to one employee. 972 has limited space

4:09:45
Benjamin VazquezItem 5

and they must have an approved commissionary. So I just don't want to throw everything at 972. I county hasn't done their due diligence and and done the work to set to set up permits that we're ready to go and they're very small and they're very limited we talked to some folks this week and they were like yeah 972 doesn't permit all these vendors that we see there so it's very limited we could protect I mean once we get to regulate folks and limit on what they're able to do and we say this is the one that has the green tag and they have a go that

4:10:24
Benjamin VazquezItem 5

would be five because 972 is very limited so I'm gonna call for getting rid of those 617 18 whereas because it's blaming 972 but I also have an amendment to urge the city to work alongside the county to facilitate timely implementation of SB 972 and ensure all local street food vendors are made aware and can access county permitting process once the compact mobile food operation permitting process is developed number two and it so it's 972 is limited right I'm not saying everybody gets to pass on it and it's a free-for-all the street you have to have a green like a sticker from the county or the state I also

4:11:03
Benjamin VazquezItem 5

want to add establish a municipal sidewalk vending permitting program as well as outreach educate and provide assistance for such permitting to ensure that street food vendors who work across the city especially the many who are local residents operate with the proper health permits and are incorporated into the local formal economy while awaiting the establishment of the country compact mobile food operation program so it now 972 is limited it's not what we all have been seen on the streets we want to make sure we protect the family mom-and-pops make sure we incorporate them in and not just throw throw it all away there's

4:11:43
Benjamin VazquezItem 5

other folks around. Those are my two motions to push on those two.

4:12:21
Valerie AmezcuaItem 5

I didn't understand the motion because you kept going back on 972. Hold on one second. Let me let the other speak and then I'll come back to you.

4:12:27
Phil BacerraItem 5

Councilman Becerra. Thank you Mayor Mesquois. I will not be supporting any of those things and in fact I would ask you Councilman Vasquez if you read the resolution before us tonight you keep talking about 972. What I'm looking at It says SB 946 and 972. And in fact, the last time we talked about this issue, you kept talking about 972. 972 is about cottage food industry. So you've got 946 and 972 that have brought this upon us. You want us, the city, to educate folks about state law. So maybe the state should be educating folks, but also too, you want the state to somehow go across the street

4:12:34
Phil BacerraItem 5

and tell them how to provide health permits. That would be something that they would do with the county health department. On top of that, we have a very vibrant culture in the city of mobile food vendors, whether it's food trucks, whether it's the push carts, and they seem to know how to go get the health permits, right? These are the ones that have got those. So I'm not quite sure why we would want to make all those revisions that you're speaking of because at the end of the day, what this resolution was based on, and I know I'm going to sound repetitive to those that actually paid attention to the last meeting, but this

4:13:11
Phil BacerraItem 5

is about food being served that is unfit for human consumption. And in fact, one of the commenters online tonight made comments about the resolution being gross. You know what's gross? Human trafficking. That's gross. And anybody up there that can somehow turn a blind eye to that, that is gross. So I will not be supporting those because you know what? I'm not going to condone and promote things that take advantage of our community, take advantage of those. I mean, there are folks that when our code enforcement and police go up to the stationary sidewalk vendor that's not supposed to be there, folks are running away. There's fear.

4:13:45
Phil BacerraItem 16

There's fear out there because of the fact that they're being trafficked. So I'm sorry, Councilman Vasquez, I will not be supporting any of those changes. I want to actually compliment staff because we asked you to bring forward a motion, excuse me, a resolution that did exactly what we asked. So I want to thank staff for bringing this forward tonight. So I'll be supporting the resolution as written and presented to us. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Thank you. Councilman Hernandez.

4:14:27
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 16

Yes. I will be supporting your motion, Councilmember Vasquez. I'm a Latino. I'm a Chicano. My mom's side of the family migrated from Guadalajara, Jalisco, here to Santana in the 50s. My dad's side of the family, we've only known Santa Ana. I am native to Santa Ana. I grew up right near El Salvador Park. I'm from Articia Pilar. I was fed by street vendors my whole life. When I hear that campana, I'm outside, and so is my little girl.

4:14:54
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 16

And I understand that the concerns about out-of-town street vendors creating a conglomerate and then being exploited and then being monopolized and bringing that to our backyard, I don't condone that. I don't condone the exploitation of workers. I don't condone human trafficking. And if anybody feels that they are in danger, it is the utmost priority to protect you. Now, with that being said, I also don't want to instill fear into a community that has already been ravaged by violence and by gang violence and by police violence.

4:15:25
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 16

It's bad enough that street vendors are getting attacked and being shot at and being ran over on a daily basis in cities like ours all throughout California. But when that was happening, where were those conversations? We brought them to the table. When street vendors were getting brutalized last year, I was the council member who brought that conversation forward and said, we need to start looking at attacks at street vendors as a hate crime. There were some challenges here, but nonetheless, our city attorney's office worked with our district attorney, Todd Spitzer, in ensuring that if there are attacks on street vendors,

4:16:06
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 16

there is a relationship. And that relationship allowed us to assign detectives who focus on hate crimes to focus on any attacks moving forward to street vendors, we can have a proper response to address it. Now, when it comes to this resolution, in theory, this resolution is accomplishing a lot of what the residents are asking for. We don't want the large corporations coming here and bringing the red tent and corporatizing and monopolizing and pushing us out. We don't want that in Santa Ana.

4:16:42
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 16

But what I don't want is for this resolution to then be weaponized and to turn against food trucks. Because several years ago, the conversation was very different about food trucks. The conversation about the stands popping up is not a conversation that the city of Santa Ana brought forth. That was a conversation that was brought forth by a senator from Long Beach. I took the time to meet with that senator. I met with her office. I learned about this bill. And what is imperative is that we need to realize the reason why we had such a large

4:17:20
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 16

number of street vendors popping up all over Santa Ana from LA is because the law was only in effect at that time for two months. and the city of Santa Ana did not properly prepare itself for what was to come. So what we are seeing now is that our strategy of not intervening and not preventing this mistake from happening has caught up to us. So it means we need to take a step back and have an education-first approach to an already vulnerable community. And the ways that we do that is by supporting your motion, Council Member Vasquez,

4:17:56
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 16

the education component of teaching an already vulnerable community that has been pushed out. Latinos have not been accepted by Santana. We have gotten the symbols of freedom to sit up here, but let's be real. This resolution isn't even in Spanish. How many of these street vendors understand what is really being talked about today? So the reason why I'm supporting your motion, Council Member Vasquez, is because there needs to be education because this bill promotes unity and collaboration between government, street vendors, and private businesses so that

4:18:34
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 16

they can partner and utilize community kitchens so that they can cook food in sanitary environments. It encourages them to get their health permits so that their highest standards are being presented to people buying food. And then Second number three, what I'm encouraging is if you are going to vent here, become a Santa Ana, you know, get a Santa Ana business license, pay taxes here. Check off all the boxes for us. We want to protect you. We want to work with you. We want to help you. My only addition to your motion, Council Member Vasquez, is given the historical context of

4:19:15
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 16

Santa Ana fighting to protect street vendors, I would like to see an amendment to section Section 3 of the resolution, I would like to add, Section 3, the City of Santa Ana affirms its dedication and its priority to protect the health, safety, and welfare of its residents, local street vendors, visitors, and business owners. I'm including local street vendors because it presently only includes residents, visitors, and business owners. I think it's important that we are inclusive of who we're talking about because they get brutalized.

4:19:52
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 16

Section 4, my last ask is to include language that includes the word local street vendors. Section 4 states the city of Santa Ana urges the state legislature of the state of California to introduce and adopt legislation to amend SB 946 and SB 972 to specifically allow local jurisdictions the right of self-determination to enact local regulations that A, protect and preserve the health, safety, and welfare of San Ana residents. I'm asking to include local street vendors. It already states visitors and business owners. Those are the amendments I have. Council Member Vasquez, are you willing to accept them?

4:20:30
Benjamin VazquezItem 16

I accept it.

4:21:09
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 16

Thank you. There's a motion and a second on the floor.

4:21:10
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

Thank you. I appreciate that. Madam Mayor. Yeah, I'm not done with calling on you. So since I run this meeting, I'll make sure. I just want to be clear on that.

4:21:13
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

Councilman Penelosa.

4:21:24
David PenalozaItem 16

Thank you. I just wanted to make a motion to approve item 16 as is.

4:21:26
Phil BacerraItem 16

I'll second that.

4:21:33
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

OK, and then there's another motion, and then there's a second here. So I made an amendment. Mayor Pro Tem.

4:21:35
Jessie LopezItem 16

Thank you, Mayor Mesquah. So from what I understand, there are two amendments being asked. One is to add educational language to the res-o. Do I understand that correctly? Educational language to a res-o.

4:21:43
Jessie LopezItem 16

And the educational language specifically states to work with the county? Yes? Okay. AND THE SECOND ONE IS ADDING THE PROTECTING THE LOCAL STREET VENDOR LANGUAGE UNDER SECTION THREE AND UNDER SECTION THREE AND FOUR.

4:22:03
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

IS THAT ALL?

4:22:24
Jessie LopezItem 16

YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO PROCESS THE DIFFERENT ASKS. THANK YOU.

4:22:26
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

COUNCIL MEMBER THAI?

4:22:32
Thai Viet PhanItem 16

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF MY colleagues for the robust discussion on this topic. I know that street vending is something that's very important to our community and our city. I am supportive of the resolution overall, because I feel like we're talking about two different things. It seems like, and my apologies if I'm not understanding properly, but the real big issue that we seem

4:22:36
Thai Viet PhanItem 16

to have in our city are these illegal corporate stationary food vendors who are run by and owned by large corporations from outside of the city of Santa Ana, who know full well that they are violating the law, who do not care that they are violating the law, who are trafficking people who are most likely undocumented immigrants, who flout the regulations and safety protocols and do not care what happens to our water systems, our trash, or the safety of our residents. I think those are the people that we are trying to prevent from working here in the

4:23:08
Thai Viet PhanItem 16

city of Santa Ana. I don't believe that any of us are interested in preventing our typical mom and pop sidewalk vendors who have been operating here for for generations who are really a part of the community are are roaming street vendors who have been doing the right thing who are following the requirements who are getting the food permits so i guess my only request then

4:23:50
Thai Viet PhanItem 16

maybe as a point of clarification is if it's possible just to amend the resolution language to clarify that it would apply that we're requesting these changes specific to stationary sidewalk vendors I just want to put it out there if that's at all possible to the makers of the

4:24:26
Phil BacerraItem 16

motion thank you let's check councilmember Sarah thank you madam mayor uh councilmember fan yeah this resolution, this action from the get-go has always been about the stationary sidewalk vending. It's not about the mobile vendors, it's not about the food trucks who are on private properties or even on our streets. This has been about exactly, Councilmember Fan, what you described. So thank you for putting it so clearly out there. And to my colleagues, this is not about the food trucks that are here. This is again as what Councilmember Fan described. I'm not this resolution is about that and it does state that in there.

4:24:48
Thai Viet PhanItem 16

Thank you. That's what I recall too. And I would support that. And I guess as maybe just direction to staff that as we do come across any roaming sidewalk vendors that we assist them if they don't have a permit to, you know, to help them out and direct them to the county, because right now they only need a county permit and they don't have to jump through additional HOAPS WITH THE CITY WHICH WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL REGULATION IF WE DO CREATE OUR OWN PROGRAM. THEY WOULD BOTH HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT WOULD BE IT AND I

4:25:28
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE MOTION. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO BEFORE WE VOTE, YOU HAVE A YOU'RE GOING TO AMEND A MOTION OR YOU HAVE COMMENT? I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT,

4:26:04
Benjamin VazquezItem 16

COUNCIL MEMPHAM. THE LAST FEW THINGS THAT YOU SAID WHERE YOU EDUCATE SOMEBODY WHERE YOU LEAD them to a permit that's what my amendments were talking to about it is 972 is a new law that was two months old and and hopefully we have more cottage industries and I don't want to protect the big conglomerates I'm on it with you guys we don't need I'm good with that this is about the the small mom-and-pop that might come up that fit into being regulated that are permitted I'm good with that so I'm on with you guys the conglomerates don't need to be in our city the the the folks who have taken over but we do have to protect our own

4:26:15
Benjamin VazquezItem 16

so I I want to just make sure I want to be like not being reactive but of a caring city that understands its local people are gonna sell and give them the the space and how to go about that so I just want to add up to this just I didn't want to throw 972 under the bus without really developing it because it's been TWO MONTHS OR YOU KNOW WE'RE ON THE THIRD MONTH NOW THAT'S BEEN AROUND SO IT'S NOT ABOUT UH PROTECTING THE BIG INGLOMORATE IT'S ABOUT THE LITTLE GUY FOR THE MOST PART SO THAT'S WHAT

4:26:56
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR THAT OKAY I'M THE LAST ONE TO SPEAK HERE SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS AS WELL I'M COUNCILMAN BECERA SO THERE ARE A COUPLE COMMENTS MADE THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS AND THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING COUNCILMAN VASSES WE HAVE FOOD TRUCKS AND I'VE SAID IT BEFORE WHO are losing business, losing their homes, losing their trucks because the taco pop-ups and they were just out of control in the city and thank you to out of it all code enforcement law enforcement and the county that have done a great job and have looked at the taco pop-ups and those that are not

4:27:27
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

you appliance or with the permit you know they have no they're not in our city anymore it's amazing how quickly they they left and so I've had a lot of you know thank yous thank yous I think we most of us up here have had the thank yous and it really wasn't anything that we did other than shed light that this is an issue for people who live in our city and do business food trucks that pay their permits pay their business license pay for insurance pay to store their food trucks they are get they're doing what they're supposed to do so the taco pop-ups should be doing the same thing you know one of the council

4:28:02
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

members mentioned attacks on street vendors. Madam City Manager, if the police department can please give give me or give us the stats, I'd like to know how many street vendors, pop-up street vendors, have been attacked in the city of Santa Ana. I want the number from the police department because I haven't heard of, I know in LA they've had an issue, but not in Orange County, not in Santa Ana at least that I that I have heard of and I have maybe I've missed a few I don't know but I'd like to know the exact number so we're just not throwing out that there's you know issues with attacks on street vendors but

4:28:41
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

I want to know the exact number of attacks or assaults on them the other thing is that there are several restaurants that are going out of business in the city they're going out of business because these large taco companies that come from LA and other areas, Riverside, all over, they're not local people. Again, I'm not talking about the senora that's been selling tamales right there by the market on off of 17th Street for, I don't know, she's been there for a long time. I'm not talking about her. She's got her little permit on the side. We're not talking about the, you know, the ice cream guy

4:29:20
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

who's in the park with his permits on the side. We're talking about the people who have popped up on our street, and I only saw one this weekend, and I didn't call Avido because it was late, but nobody could walk on that sidewalk. And so it is a problem because the liability rests with us as a city. And so all of us that sit up here and represent our constituents and the people in the city, if I have to step into the street to go around a taco pop-up and I get hit by a car, guess who I'm going to sue? I'm gonna sue the city and I'm gonna get a big check with a lot of zeros after it

4:30:00
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

and then I'm gonna come up here and I'm gonna thank all the council members because they allowed it because it was about oh you know let's help the people it we are helping the people and the county has a great program on how to get a permit they're very clear you go on their website Alvaro and his team have a form that's on our Santa Ana website of how do you get a permit from the county. It's in Spanish and English and I think you were going to do a video, Alvaro, if I'm not correct. You were going to...you're working on a video. So pretty much we've done everything that we possibly can.

4:30:42
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

Video, English, Spanish, you know, go to the...it is a county responsibility. Our staff do not have the responsibility to hold their hand and say, again, we're... The community of Santa Ana, you know, I've been here a long time, and we're so good at saying, sometimes as electives, as politicians, we're so good at saying, pobrecitos, they don't understand. Pobrecitos, they don't speak the language. Pobrecitos, we need to help them. No, what you do is you uplift them. We're in the world of education, right? You want to educate them. Let's help them. Here's how you get a permit. I'm going to guide you. I'm going to give you a form.

4:31:16
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

I'm going to show you. I may even walk you over to the building and how to do it. But then it's up to them to fill out the forms and pay the money like the food trucks do and the restaurants to get those permits. It's up to them to not dump the oil in the middle of the street because it affects our water. It's up to them to not to have a restroom or somewhere to wash their hands. It's up to them to be aware of health issues. I welcome businesses in our city. We need to generate revenue because in a few years, we're going to be having a whole different discussion about our budget

4:31:55
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

because we're not generating revenue like we should so I'm all about supporting it but it is not about I'm not going to do the whole and I'm just not that way and if you know me I'm not I don't do pobrecitos they need to know how to do this they know how to do it they just don't want to do it because they've gotten away with it for so long so if the food trucks have to pay two $2,000 a month to store their trucks, get insurance, pay for all this, pay for that, go to a commissary and buy their meat from a commissary. When the taco pop-ups, we don't even know where they're buying their meat from. We don't know if it's fresh.

4:32:27
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

We don't know if it's good. And you can't even walk on the sidewalk. That is my issue. Again, it's about the quality of life. And yes, when I was a kid, that old man was going by, my grandma would say, go get me corn out there. you pay a dollar or 50 cents yes the donut man that used to come on Pine Street you didn't hear him you knew he had donuts I was a kid and some of us that grew up here we know the donut man from Pine Street and Walnut Street but that's not what this is about this is about companies coming into our city and since code enforcement and police in the county been working together they've all

4:33:06
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

of a sudden they're starting to disappear why because they knew they were in violation why because they knew we were going to do something about it and so I wholeheartedly support this not because I don't want businesses and not because I'm not here for my hint that I'm here I serve everybody white brown black Asian doesn't matter to me I serve everybody but they will go to the county and get a permit it is not that difficult and they will get insurance and every time I drive by them if it's at a reasonable hour I'm gonna call code enforcement and say go shut them down go shut them down and I'm gonna call police

4:33:43
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

and say go shut them down and I hope that people that are listening at home do the same thing on the new Santa Ana app call go shut them down because they should not be out there without a permit and they should not be out there unless they've done exactly what the county has asked them to do and I'm aware of the bills and that's great that we have them but we also need to take care of our CITY. SO WITH THAT, LET'S TAKE A VOTE. SO I BELIEVE YOU HAD YOUR FIRST

4:34:20
Phil BacerraItem 16

INITIAL SUBTION. SO COUNCILMEMBER PENALOZA HAD A SUBMOTION THAT I SECONDED.

4:34:47
David PenalozaItem 16

AND YOU SECONDED? YEAH. NO. I MADE THE SUBMOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION.

4:34:52
Jennifer L. HallItem 16

LET'S VOTE ON THAT ONE FIRST, PLEASE. YES. THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER PENALOZA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER BACERA TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED BY STAFF. COUNCILMEMBER BACERA? YES. COUNCILMEMBER HERNANDEZ?

4:34:57
Jennifer L. HallItem 16

Council Member Penaloza?

4:35:12
Jennifer L. HallItem 16

Council Member Fan? Yes. Council Member Vasquez?

4:35:14
Jennifer L. HallItem 16

Mayor Pro Tem Lopez? Yes. Mayor Emescuwa?

4:35:20
Jennifer L. HallItem 16

Resolution approved with a vote of five ayes, two nays, nays by Council Members Hernandez and Vasquez. Motion carries.

4:35:24
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

Great. Thank you. I'm going to move things a little bit around instead of going to the business calendar. It sounds like Councilmember Ty, I know she's at home, not feeling well. I'm going to bring up a council member requested items 20.

4:35:33
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

So that she can get some rest here. So I'm going to jump around for a second.

4:35:50
Thai Viet PhanItem 16

Oh, sorry.

4:35:56
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

Oh, no, don't apologize.

4:35:57
Thai Viet PhanItem 16

I avoided COVID for three years and it finally got me.

4:36:00
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

Yeah, no, no, go ahead. I can read this if you'd like for you.

4:36:05
Thai Viet PhanItem 16

No, it's okay. Okay, go ahead. Well, thank you so much, Mayor, and thank you to everybody, especially our Carpenters friends, Rich, Boris, for being in person. I'm sorry I couldn't be there. So I brought this item. It's to discuss and consider directing the city manager and city attorney to direct staff to prepare an ordinance amending Section 8-6 of the Santa Ana Municipal Code to increase transparency and accountability regarding contractor and subcontractor disclosures. As many of you may know, we do already have a subcontractor disclosure provision in Section 8-6 of the Municipal Code.

4:36:08
Thai Viet PhanItem 16

And it was originally, as far as I am aware, was brought forward to allow for the city to collect business license taxes as a way for us to get information on who was working in the city and collect those taxes. And I think that's a really useful tool and really good for us, right? We're talking about revenue, and that is one of them. However, over time, it seems that, you know, for a variety of reasons, unknown to me, but I imagine part of it had to do with just staffing and follow-up, that we were not collecting

4:36:47
Thai Viet PhanItem 16

this data as consistently as we should have been. And with that, that means that we weren't always aware of who was operating as a subcontractor in the city. And so with this item, I'm bringing it forward to bring not only for us to make sure that we do follow up and get information on who the subcontractors are, which I believe staff was already working on.

4:37:27
Thai Viet PhanItem 16

So I applaud staff for that, but also to provide additional information regarding whether these subcontractors have any violations under state law or if there were any fines found against them by the state. This is information that I think would be very good for all of us to know, not just as residents who may be living in one of these buildings one day, but also as the industry would like to know who is actually building the buildings that they are paying for.

4:37:55
Thai Viet PhanItem 16

And there are provisions in the draft ordinance that ensures that it really is looking at bigger developers. For example, for residential, it would be 20 dwelling units or more. So we're not talking about someone who's remodeling their house or, you know, a small duplex owner. And regarding commercial or industrial, we're talking about, you know, 20,000 square feet or more.

4:38:33
Thai Viet PhanItem 16

This is really just a disclosure requirement. It's just really one additional column to what we're already asking the contractors to disclose. And it would give the city really teeth to ensure that these disclosures occur. ultimately it's about transparency and accountability and that's something that I know our city has consistently pushed forward and I hope that my colleagues support this item thank

4:39:00
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

you thank you councilman any comments on this mayor Miskla yes just wanted to thank councilmember

4:39:33
David PenalozaItem 16

fan for agendizing this item tonight fully supportive I've seen what staff comes back WITH AND SUPPORTIVE OF THE ITEM. IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. SOMETHING WE'RE ALREADY DOING BUT JUST NOW GIVING US THAT TEETH TO THIS ORDINANCE. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

4:39:42
Benjamin VazquezItem 16

COUNCILMAN VASQUEZ. I'M ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF COUNCILMEMBER

4:40:00
Benjamin VazquezItem 16

FAN'S MOTION AND I APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE THE MORE DATA WE COLLECT AND WE KNOW WHO'S WORKING IN THE CITY, THE BETTER WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BASSERRA.

4:40:06
Phil BacerraItem 16

Thank you, Madam Mayor. I too will be supporting Councilmember Phan's item. I think it brings accountability. And I also want to make sure that as staff is looking at language to present to the council that we work in there, the fact that we don't always know if these subs are obtaining city business licenses. So I want to make sure that that's happening. So again, this is an accountability tool, but I also want to make sure that as part of that accountability, in addition to the other items that Councilmember Phan listed, that we also make sure that we sure that we're requiring the business license from them. Thank you.

4:40:18
Phil BacerraItem 16

Councilman Hernandez.

4:40:53
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 16

Thank you, Mayor Mesqua. Just wanted to thank Councilmember Fan. Fully supportive of this item and looking forward to staff getting us more information.

4:40:54
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

Mayor Pro Tem.

4:41:03
Jessie LopezItem 16

Thank you. Yeah, I'm also very supportive of this item. As Councilmember Fan stated, our staff was already working on making sure that whatever is in our code is being enforced. So this as a second step makes a lot of sense to me And it's you know what we heard from public comment about establishing good legal president But it's beyond that right? It's about making sure that our residents are protected that the city is protected that the workers are protected And so I think this is going to be a really small change That has really big positive impact and I think the city of San Diego has something already like this

4:41:05
Jessie LopezItem 16

So for staff, if you need something to reference, you can look at their page.

4:41:44
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

Thank you. I will also be supporting this. Madam City Manager, I know that when we give you some sort of guidance from a council meeting, we're already a week behind. We ask you to come back with something. So it states here that she would like staff to prepare an ordinance amending. So I would say the second meeting in April, if that works.

4:41:51
Kristine RidgeItem 16

I believe we could probably make that happen. Thank you.

4:42:13
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

Perfect. Let's go for the second meeting in April. We look forward to the report then.

4:42:16
Kristine RidgeItem 16

Thank you.

4:42:20
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

Thank you, Council Member Pham.

4:42:22
Valerie AmezcuaItem 16

Thanks, boss. We're going to end the consent calendar. We're going to go into the business calendar now at this time. Item 17.

4:42:25
Kristine RidgeItem 16

So, honorable mayor and council members, we do have a brief presentation for the item that's before you. And as you recall, this was a recent addition which was put in place to honor events and individuals and the item before you was just to make some minor amendments that had been previously requested. So I will turn it over to Public Works Director Nabil Saba. Nabil Saba Great. Thank you.

4:42:34
UnidentifiedItem 16

good evening mayor mayor pro tem members of city council item 17 before you is an ordinance amending article 9 of chapter 33 of the city of santa anna municipal code ceremonial street naming

4:43:08
UnidentifiedItem 16

um background on August 2nd 2022 City Council adopted an ordinance number NS 3024 to recognize outstanding individuals or events that have made significant impact on the community through the cooperative or honorary naming of streets or intersections on June 17 2023 the City Council directed staff to amend the ordinance the amendment includes to limit the number of city blocks to a maximum of two contiguous blocks on a

4:43:28
UnidentifiedItem 16

city street that can be designated to recognize individuals or events limit the number of city-wide streets to one street that can be designated to recognize individuals or events and limit the number of sign toppers to two signs or sign toppers that shall be installed on either end of this section of the street designated for the cooperative or honorary street naming this schematic is a depiction of what we expect

4:44:09
UnidentifiedItem 17

what if the amendment is approved two signs at two inch of the street the recommended action here is to approve the first reading of an ordinance amending article 9 of chapter 33 of this municipal code relating to ceremonial STREET NAMING. I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

4:44:42
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

NO QUESTIONS.

4:45:09
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE. ANY QUESTIONS?

4:45:15
David PenalozaItem 17

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

4:45:20
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

MAKE A MOTION. ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION?

4:45:24
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

YES.

4:45:26
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

I'LL SECOND.

4:45:27
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

I'd like to make a sub motion to not move forward with this item and to keep status quo.

4:45:27
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

Are there any other comments or questions? Mayor Pro Tem? Councilman Vasquez?

4:45:37
Benjamin VazquezItem 17

I think if we go as a status quo, we could take a ward by ward and council member could feel how they feel about where, how their neighborhood should be portrayed. and and I just after listening to I was in agreement with it at first and then I did some history and well we got on Willits was a parade route we got it we got something that was of that community that was pushed and showed where it was going and that's special to that place so and I think in the future council can decide how much toppers they want, how much they don't want, and not put it upon this

4:45:47
Benjamin VazquezItem 17

group to decide for that specific ward or community or street. I think we have that discussion every time. So I'm going to second your motion.

4:46:29
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

Any other comments?

4:46:41
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

So before we, I guess you need a vote or some direction. I don't think there's some direction. So I'm not going to support it. And the only reason I'm not going to support the amended one is because if we did it by, you know, each council person, it's going to be different every single time. And the parade route is great. We're going to have the, hopefully, bring the parade back. So that's great. I support that. But if we do it by ward, you know, Councilman Penelosa may want, you know, five toppers of somebody. And then, you know, Councilman Becerra may want one of somebody.

4:46:46
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

and then you know council hernandez is going to want five and then you got three and you got two and you got one so i think we're all over the page so all over the place here and we need to look at the city as a whole we can't have toppers all over the whole city um just to me it doesn't we got to have some consistency and why what do the toppers really mean what are i guess because I'm new here, what do they really mean? And I see your hand and you'll speak. But what is it about? I understand the one that we did for the SHIP family. Very clearly I understand that. But what does it mean?

4:47:20
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

And so maybe, Madam City Manager, we need to come back with some clarification. I may have missed that conversation before I joined the council. What is the true purpose? Because it's not just recognizing anybody and everybody. but what is the historical purpose and and what are we doing it and again why so I think if you'd ask people throughout the community and take a survey in different areas some like the toppers some don't some may want Johnny some may want sue and why what is the reason so I would like some more information on because I'm new here I probably can't say that after about

4:48:00
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

another 30 days but what is really what how did the City Council get to this place and why and so if you could come back with that and I have councilmember Hernandez speak briefly because we got to go back into closed session after this meeting but I'd like more information on it please

4:48:38
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

councilman Hernandez yes well that's a perfect opportunity because I was one of the authors who introduced it this was actually an idea that the community brought to me and it was actually the ship family ship family talked about the history of that intersection and the way that the black community always looked at that intersection is Black History Square. We then brought a conversation to the council about designating that street as Helen M. Shipway and Black History Square. City of Santa Ana has a number of significant historical

4:48:55
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

African Americans who have come from our community, bless you, and when we discussed this policy the authors are amongst us we're here at the dais I had a very big role in it but the ETAC worked out all of the details and I want to thank Commissioner Nathaniel Greenside for his leadership and when this item was brought forth I want to give some clarity this item is about empowering community and that is a universal term that applies to you no matter who you are, the community members are able to come to the council should they

4:49:35
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

choose and designate whoever is inspired or has impacted their community. As long as that individual has been deceased for two years or longer, the community is able to decide who do they want to celebrate. It can be a cause, it can be an issue, or it can be an individual or an organization. Now, if the council comes to us, I mean, if a community member or neighborhood association comes to a respected elected official and states and provides a compelling enough reason for that elected official to move forward and designate that ceremonial street topper,

4:50:15
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

what it does is it empowers that community that has long been disenfranchised and marginalized.

4:50:53
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

So what this does is this gives community members who have felt like they have been on the outside, it gives them a voice and it gives them a face. And for what we did at the intersection of Willits and Raid in making that Black History Square as a predominantly Latino city was we empowered the black community, which is a very small percentage throughout Orange County, 2%. But we have to look at the historical context that Santa Ana was the blackest city in Orange County, which is why the Black History Parade started in our very own streets 43 years ago. This is a way for us to love and embrace Santa Ana history, which we have.

4:51:00
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

And we started with a black woman. And so status quo means that the community members are in control, not the council. The community members are in control. Should the council member work with the community, then we have the ability to waive fees in the event that there is a cause we are passionate enough about. So in the event of Ms. Helen Schiff Way and Black History Square, if they had came to us and there was no council support, it would go through a process through public works. The council has the ability to form partnerships and coalitions through this policy.

4:51:39
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

This policy is giving us the ability to have government and community work in collaboration, and I think that is to be celebrated. So, status quo means keeping things as is, which means if the community asks for five toppers and that's their request, we meet them where they're at. We don't silence them and say, yeah, great history, but you only get one here and you get one there. That's not true community empowerment. Community empowerment is saying, what do you need? And if they say we want one here, one there, and one there, then that's what our job is to do. Our job is to help tell these stories, not silence them.

4:52:20
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

AND SO THAT COULD BE MY POMIS.

4:52:57
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. LET ME GO TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MAYOR PANELUSO.

4:52:58
David PenalozaItem 17

THANK YOU, MAYOR MESCUA. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T TRY TO SPEND NARRATIVE. THIS IS WE'RE ALL SUPPORTED OF THIS ITEM. IT'S A GREAT ITEM. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ FOR LEADING THIS. WE ALL SUPPORT THE CEREMONIAL STREET TOPPERS. BUT PART OF WHAT THIS ITEM DOES IS UNIFORMITY AND CONSISTENCY IN MAKING SURE THAT AT THE end of the day everybody wants to live in a nice city and if we have in on my street we have 10 and then on the next street we have 15 of another one and then we have it just becomes a mess throughout the city of what residents

4:53:03
David PenalozaItem 17

want to see I'm very supportive of seeing certain intersections and blocks one or two blocks recognize that and I think that does enough but we need at the end of the day, this isn't the first ceremonial topper that's going to be requested and it's not the last. We're going to have these come before us often throughout the city. This is a city rich in history, rich in culture, rich in residents that have done wonderful things over the over the last 153 years and we need to be aware that we will need to recognize and and the history of

4:53:42
David PenalozaItem 17

the city. And if we start, if we don't narrow it down to be consistent and be a uniform policy, it's just going to, at the end, 15 years from now, it's going to be a mess. And every street is going to look not the same as the one previous to that. And it's just, I think it cleans it up. So, support over the side.

4:54:19
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

Great. Thank you. Any other comments? You had a comment, Mayor Potem?

4:54:45
Jessie LopezItem 17

Thank you. Well first thank you to our staff because I believe this is the third time that this comes to the council and I thought when we first voted on it what an easy you know straightforward item and I don't think it should be looked at ward by ward because the reality is that our neighborhoods are very different and I would not want to limit one of the neighborhoods in North Sanana to only having one or to only having two because I think you know the neighborhoods are very connected and they would want to share in that they would want to bask and in whatever it is that they're

4:54:48
Jessie LopezItem 17

celebrating with the street topper so that's the only thing I'm not necessarily married to in this proposed amendments out of the three so for that reason specifically that very small reason I'll be supporting the sub motion

4:55:29
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

but I'm good overall with the item. So I would like as I had asked I'd like additional study on it only because it doesn't sound like we're on it. Councilman Phan do you have any comments? Are you there? I don't at this time thank

4:55:47
Thai Viet PhanItem 17

Thank you.

4:56:06
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

So there was a motion and a second, and then there was a sub motion.

4:56:07
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

Sub motion was to keep status quo as is. The good thing about status quo is, let's say, in a future meeting.

4:56:16
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

I know what status quo means.

4:56:24
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

Forgive me, I'm still speaking. Status quo gives the public works director the ability to bring council options. So it'll say option number one will be five street toppers, option number two will be eight, option number three will be the max amount which would be whatever the community member is requesting. So it gives council control based off of that respective history.

4:56:25
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

So city manager, since we're going to end this conversation now, I'm very aware of status quo means. But I just want to be clear that if you can bring something back with the options but also work-study so if you can bring it back first meeting in April only because there's a lot going on right now and then we could talk about this again and then we can make a decision at that time. So would you like to see the resolution return with the informational report? That's correct yes okay and and maybe we do a community survey every you know we all talk up here about what the

4:56:48
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

community wants right and I'll guarantee you the community is gonna be very different all over the city on toppers and so that's the beauty about our city but I do like the consistency and keeping things together and again we're all gonna vote how we feel is right at the end of the day but I think a community survey would be great to hear what they have to say I'm sure we can get that done and if you need some extra time let us know exactly what I was just

4:57:22
David PenalozaItem 17

gonna ask for yeah that's fine thank you mayor yes just for clarity so are we CONTINUING THE ITEM TO A DATE UNCERTAIN?

4:57:50
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

WE'RE CONTINUING THE ITEM UNTIL CITY MANAGER, UNTIL FIRST MEETING IN MAY OR SECOND MEETING?

4:57:58
Kristine RidgeItem 17

SECOND MEETING IN MAY WOULD ALLOW US MORE TIME TO GATHER MORE INPUT FOR YOU. FROM THE COMMUNITY. PERFECT.

4:58:05
UnidentifiedItem 17

MAYOR, THERE WAS A SUBMOTION WITH A SECOND THAT SHOULD BE VOTED ON.

4:58:10
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

SUBMOTION WAS TO LEAVE IT STATUS QUO.

4:58:21
Phil BacerraItem 17

Do you want to sub to continue it?

4:58:23
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

Yeah, I'd like to sub to continue it.

4:58:26
Phil BacerraItem 17

I'll second your sub motion.

4:58:28
Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

Thank you. And then let's vote.

4:58:30
Jennifer L. HallItem 17

A second substitute motion to continue item number 17 to the second meeting in May. Councilmember Vicerra?

4:58:36
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

Yes.

4:58:42
Jennifer L. HallItem 17

Councilmember Hernandez?

4:58:43
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

No.

4:58:45
Jennifer L. HallItem 17

Councilmember Penaloza?

4:58:46
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 17

Yes.

4:58:48
Jennifer L. HallItem 17

Councilmember Fan?

4:58:49
Jennifer L. HallItem 17

Yes. Council Member Vasquez?

4:58:53
Jennifer L. HallItem 17

Mayor Pro Tem Lopez? No. Mayor Mesquilla?

4:58:56
Jennifer L. HallItem 17

Okay. The motion carries with four ayes, three nays. Nays by Council Members Hernandez, Vasquez, and Mayor Pro Tem Lopez. Item continued to the second meeting in May.

4:59:00
Valerie AmezcuaItem 18

Item 18, please.

4:59:11
Kristine RidgeItem 18

So, honorable Mayor and Council Members, this is an informational report, but we are seeking some direction. THIS ITEM HAS TO DO WITH OPTIONS FOR HAVING SENIOR CITIZENS INPUT ON OUR SERVICES THAT WE OFFER IN OUR CITY. AND OUR PARKS AND RECREATION AND COMMUNITY SERVICES EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HOCK SCOTT WILL BE GIVING A BRIEF PRESENTATION.

4:59:13
Valerie AmezcuaItem 18

THANK YOU.

4:59:34
UnidentifiedItem 18

THANK YOU. HI, EVERYBODY. Good evening to you. So this is about the Senior Citizen Commission information report. Just a little background. At the January 17, 2003 meeting, Mayor Mesquah added the following council member request item to discuss and consider directing city manager to direct staff to prepare an ordinance establishing a Senior Citizen Commission. There was consensus among the city council proceed with this item.

4:59:47
UnidentifiedItem 18

Staff research surrounding municipalities with existing or prior senior citizen board's commissions. One of the things we do every quarter is my fellow comrades and Orange County directors, we get together and, you know, we talk about it, pass information, so it's a good resource as well. Our findings after, you know, talking to people around things was that most senior citizen commissions were disbanded and then either reimagined due to, you know, time commitment requirements and lack of participation from the community. Some of our neighboring cities which I'll highlight, Irvine does have a senior citizen

5:00:13
UnidentifiedItem 18

council which is composed of seven members, five which are appointed by each member of the council. One thing they do different is they have two at-large members through a public recruitment process through a five-member panel identified by an ad hoc committee. Anaheim does have a senior citizen commission which they recently went back to, seven-member commission. Each commission must be 60 years of age, a resident, and not hold any paid office or employee with the city. Each commission serves that term and runs concurrently with the current term of the elected official who is appointed.

5:00:48
UnidentifiedItem 18

Tustin has a senior advisory board, and the advisory board is embodied to the staff of the community service commission. They do not directly advise a council, but one of the board members is a council member appointed by the mayor. The role is focused on primary programs, activities, and services that are based out of the Senior Center. The challenge over there is they struggle with filling board positions. Costa Mesa has a senior liaison. They used to have a senior commission, but it was dissolved up about three years ago. In its place, the city assigned a senior liaison to their Parks and Recreation Service Committee.

5:01:22
UnidentifiedItem 18

Mission Viejo, they added seats to the Community Service Commission. So Mission Viejo did away with their senior commission and what they did, they reimagined it, they added two more seats to the community service commission to make a commission of seven. The mayor and pro temp selected an additional person to fill these two seats but they must be a senior. Orange does not have any commission, however they are run by an Orange Elderly Services which is a third party nonprofit that runs the senior center and again their challenge, I DID SPEAK TO THEM IS FILLING BOARD POSITIONS AND OUR FRIENDS TO THE GARDEN GROWE DON'T HAVE ANY.

5:01:56
UnidentifiedItem 18

SO OPTIONS WE HAVE. WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH A SENIOR COMMISSION. ALSO AN ORDINANCE THAT WE DID DRAPPED UP AS PER DIRECTION. TWO, ADD TWO SEATS TO THE PARKS AND MIGRATION COMMISSION TO REPRESENT OUR OLDER ACTIVE ADULTS. THREE, ESTABLISH A SENIOR COMMITTEE. FOUR, ESTABLISH A SENIOR TASK FORCE. FIVE, ESTABLISH A CITY COUNCIL STANDING SUBCOMMITTEE TO DISCUSS MENTION. relating to older adults, and last but not least, a City Council ad hoc committee to discuss matters relating to our active adults.

5:02:34
UnidentifiedItem 18

Our recommendation, with all the findings and talking to our local constituents, is to add two more seats to our existing Parks and Recreation Community Service Commission to make a commission of nine members to provide insight into the city service delivery for older adults. Our Parks and Recreation Commission is very active and they all do show up now, and we're actually going to be moving back into here soon, SO THAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION. AND I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU ALL FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

5:03:06
Valerie AmezcuaItem 18

GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN VASQUEZ?

5:03:31
Benjamin VazquezItem 18

FOR A COMMISSION, WHAT WOULD THAT COST THE CITY? WHAT'S THE COST ON RUNNING THE COMMISSION?

5:03:36
UnidentifiedItem 18

THE CURRENT ONE WE HAVE, THEY GET PAID, I BELIEVE IT'S 50.

5:03:41
Benjamin VazquezItem 18

STAFF AND ALL THAT WE DO.

5:03:46
UnidentifiedItem 18

SO WE RUN THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION EVERY MONTH. LIKE I SAID, IT TAKES A COUPLE LESS. We'll have video, we'll do it on YouTube, just kind of like what we do here, but with our Parks and Rec Commission, just like our Youth Commission and any other commission we do.

5:03:49
Kristine RidgeItem 18

I can add, Council Members, so it would be mainly staff time and some of the staff would be on overtime. And then of course, if it was a commission established with a stipend, it would be the cost of a stipend.

5:04:04
Benjamin VazquezItem 18

I think I'm going to support the staff's recommendation and go with number two, to add new seats. to the parks and rec.

5:04:16
Valerie AmezcuaItem 18

Councilman Penelosa.

5:04:23
David PenalozaItem 18

Thank you, Madam Mayor. Thank you, Hawk, for the presentation. Love the suit.

5:04:27
David PenalozaItem 18

I, when this conversation has come up a couple times in the last couple of years, and I think the last time it came up was in early 2021, which we were all virtual, we were all remote, And at the time, I believe the Parks and Rec director also made a similar recommendation because of the fact that we had, you know, under Parks and Rec, we had the Youth Commission, we had the Parks and Rec Commission, and they were already providing a lot of, you know, well-rounded good service to our senior citizens in the way of, you know, senior programming at our senior centers and the meals and everything that we were doing.

5:04:36
David PenalozaItem 18

And so it, and then because we were all virtual, that just the idea of starting a senior citizen commission at the time felt duplicative because of the work that we were already doing. And the fact that now we were going to have a senior citizen commission having to connect remotely at the time. We didn't know how long this pandemic was going to run through or how long we were going to be in that virtual state. So I'm happy to have this discussion again. But I think, you know, in order to not be duplicative, it would be, I would be supportive of the staff's recommendation to add those additional two bodies

5:05:13
David PenalozaItem 18

that ensure our senior citizens to our Parks and Rec Commission, making the full body to nine. The question now becomes is, if that is the recommendation of the majority, what that looks like and who appoints those two representatives. Because we already each get one Parks and Rec Commissioner appointee and now it has that been thought about a hot yes it has in the

5:05:52
UnidentifiedItem 18

recommendation under this model the mayor and mayor pro temp would each select an additional person to fill these two seats these two commissioners would provide insight into the parks and recreation community services and just for service delivery for our active adults and that's the same model that mission of abbejo does follow and they say it works very well the only at

5:06:19
David PenalozaItem 18

which I'm okay with that personally. The only thing I would ask is because we select the mayor pro tem annually, on an annual basis, that that appointee is aware that they might serve only one year. I mean, I don't see the next mayor pro tem saying, oh, you know what, I want to replace a senior citizen after only a year. I don't think that will happen.

5:06:41
David PenalozaItem 18

But that's just what I would ask is that that is known that that commissioner could potentially only serve one year. And that's it.

5:07:06
Valerie AmezcuaItem 18

Council Member.

5:07:19
Phil BacerraItem 18

Thank you, Madam Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Penaloza, for those comments. I agree. I think option number two is the preferred one. But you brought up something, Council Member Penaloza, in regards to the appointments. So Mayor and then Mayor Pro Tem, the potential of an annual appointment. Perhaps, and I think we do this with either our Community Development Commission or one of the other commissions where we have the Chamber of Commerce or we have some sort of other, you know, it's not an elected official making the appointment. So I think with the Workforce Investment Board, the WIB, we have other organizations that

5:07:20
Phil BacerraItem 18

make appointments. So maybe when this item comes back to us, you can give us some options. So maybe it's the mayor appoints one of those two spots and the second one comes from another organization or maybe there might be two organizations that make the most sense to, you know, that are senior supportive or senior friendly that might be the ones to more appropriately appoint these two members.

5:08:00
Phil BacerraItem 18

Perfect. Thank you. That's all I have. Mayor. Thank you.

5:08:25
David PenalozaItem 18

I have a quick question just to- Go ahead. I know that the City of Garden Grove, when they do their commission appointees, they're not for other commissions. From what I understand, they're not directly appointed by the sitting council member. It's just kind of an open application system that the city puts out and saying, hey, if you're a resident of Garden Grove or the city, whatever it is, apply, and then those commissioners get vetted and then they get, I'm not sure if they're vetted or not, but they come before the city council for approval.

5:08:28
David PenalozaItem 18

So I, now that I'm further thinking about it, to avoid having the mayor or the mayor pro tem have multiple appointees to the commission or have to go through that, I would suggest, not sure if my colleagues would agree, but that staff has an open enrollment for the, I know we have two senior citizen centers, senior centers in the city that have a, they have, each of them have a huge attendance and good group of senior citizens that participate in those centers.

5:09:05
David PenalozaItem 18

That I'm sure if staff would say, hey, there's two seats open, I'm sure we'd get, or even one from each senior center since we have two if we told that respective group of each center, hey, you each get to pick somebody and then or apply. That way it, because I would hate to see again that appointee of the mayor pro tem be switched out after only a year. I don't know. Just something to think about.

5:09:46
Valerie AmezcuaItem 18

No, I support that. I think it's a great idea. I also support item number two and then taking applications from both senior centers and selecting one from each senior center. My only concern is that the Parks and Recs and Community Services Commission they meet at night, is that correct?

5:10:15
UnidentifiedItem 18

We meet later on in the day about 4.30. 4.30 okay so we just have to be aware that

5:10:34
Valerie AmezcuaItem 18

they may you know we need to be cognizant of what their needs are as well and And then it's not just park rec. Community service is very important because of food resources for them and transportation. And what are their needs? And so I know you'll do a great job and staff will do a great job of being sensitive to their needs as well. We know that the senior population is growing in the area of lacking housing. Their numbers are sadly growing. So that's going to be a topic to also work on for us as leaders in this city, for all of you as well, housing for our seniors.

5:10:39
Valerie AmezcuaItem 18

And so I'm supportive of item number two as well. And I appreciate the work that you and your staff brought this forward. And I look forward to who you're going to or how they'll be selected. I'm sure it'll be interesting at the senior centers to watch how they select them. But thank you. If there's no other comments, we'll move on. I had a comment. Go ahead.

5:11:21
Jessie LopezItem 18

No, I'm very supportive of the staff recommendation. My only concern was about the appointment process, and I agree with Councilman Pañalosa. I think it should be lottery based and opening it. I actually like his idea of opening it up to people that participate in the senior centers or really citywide for any senior to be elected because I think, you know, everything is politicized, right? And so I don't think it should just be two people up here with the authority to designate who sits on the commission. Thank you.

5:11:43
Valerie AmezcuaItem 18

You have something to say, Councilman?

5:12:16
Phil BacerraItem 18

Yeah, Madam Mayor, thank you. As part of our options, maybe we can throw in like a bingo tournament. Maybe we can see if whoever wins the bingo tournament from each senior center, then they get their job.

5:12:19
Valerie AmezcuaItem 18

All right, we've got to go back in a closed session. I don't want to be here until 1 o'clock. Madam Mayor, I think you've got direction. We have direction and we will return. Thank you.

5:12:27
UnidentifiedItem 18

Mayor, I'm sorry.

5:12:35
Valerie AmezcuaItem 18

I'm sorry. Go ahead.

5:12:37
Thai Viet PhanItem 18

I apologize. No worries. The only thing, first of all, thank you so much staff for doing all the background on this. I know Mayor Pro Tem Lopez had brought it up and Mayor Omescu, thank you to you too. The only question I had was that it says that the member of the senior, right, the definition of a senior at least in the draft is someone who's 55 and older um i guess in my mind the senior is 65 and older because they're typically someone who tends to be retired i'm not sure um but i guess my

5:12:38
Thai Viet PhanItem 18

point is we're trying to give voice to those who are ex you know who is not the typical person who who's still in the workforce and whatnot. I don't wanna make generalizations,

5:13:17
Thai Viet PhanItem 18

but I guess I look forward to whatever staff's gonna bring back and I really liked the idea of adding two people to the Parks and Rec Commission. I think it encourages efficiency while making sure our seniors have a voice. So thank you so much.

5:13:30
Valerie AmezcuaItem 18

Thank you, council member. We'll look at 65 and older.

5:13:43
Valerie AmezcuaItem 18

All right, I think we got direction. Thank you.

5:13:50
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 18

I JUST WANTED TO ALSO SHARE, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU, SIR.

5:13:52
Valerie AmezcuaItem 18

ALL RIGHT. ITEM 19. THANK YOU, HAWK.

5:13:59
Kristine RidgeItem 18

SO ITEM 19 IS ACTUALLY A WORK STUDY SESSION REGARDING ROADWAY CLEANING FEE. AND WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THIS ITEM. And once again, it will be Director Saba doing the presentation.

5:14:08
UnidentifiedItem 18

Good evening again.

5:14:36
UnidentifiedItem 18

Item 19 is a work study session relating to the environmental sanitation and roadway cleaning fee. I'd like to provide you with an overview of the fee. The sanitation fee is used for roadway cleaning that covers the cost of the following services – street sweeping, sidewalk and alley cleaning, illegal deposits, rubbish removal, sanitation and right-of-way inspection and enforcement and weed abatement services.

5:14:39
UnidentifiedItem 18

The cost of this program to the residents and the businesses is right now $5.35 per month and it's billed on a bi-monthly basis for $10.70 per bill. The fee is assessed on about 89,000 units in the city, which generates $6.2 million per year for the program.

5:15:18
UnidentifiedItem 18

This is a typical municipal bill. One of them is residential, the other one is commercial or multifamily. This is an expanded view of the bill. As you can see, the charge for a typical residential charge is $10.70, and the second example shows a typical multifamily charge, which just happened to have 204 units for a total charge for sanitation of $2,182.80.

5:15:49
UnidentifiedItem 18

Some history on the fee. The fee was established on June 17, 1991 by an ordinance. At that time it was fixed, and it was fixed since 1996, and it was reduced in 2017 when the three service program expenses were removed from the fund.

5:16:25
UnidentifiedItem 19

Reasons for the adjustment is to increase the cost of street sweeping. Now, street sweeping contracts must pay prevailing wage, and we are looking at increasing the amount of linear miles that we're wanting to service our city, do more street sweeping, and increase in the frequency of our sweeping activities. In the same time, it's increased cost for dealing with the unhoused population and the cleanups and the support of the quality of life team, and also the increased demand for the sanitation inspectors

5:16:48
UnidentifiedItem 19

and enforcement, in addition to the increased demand for sidewalk cleaning services through my Santa Ana app.

5:17:27
UnidentifiedItem 19

Because the biggest expense in this fee is the street sweeping, I want to focus a little bit more on what that contract looks like. And the new state sweeping contract, right now the existing one, will expire in June 2024.

5:17:37
UnidentifiedItem 19

The current provider or the contractor has asked for an increase of the rates because of just financial issues with the current contract, $18.32. cents, they have asked to almost double that rate, which left us without a choice but to go out for a new RFP, a request for proposal for a new service.

5:17:58
UnidentifiedItem 19

Like I mentioned, prevailing wage became an issue at the state. State Department of Industrial Relations requires that street sweeping operators or equipment operators that operate sweet sweepers be paid prevailing wage which has almost double if not more the cost of the contract coming up we desire an enhancement of our street sweeping contract coming up we would like to increase the level of street sweepings for for example arterials we would like

5:18:24
UnidentifiedItem 19

to double the frequency to two twice a week. Industrial streets would be swept twice a month. Alleys would be swept weekly. In addition to these additional sweeping frequencies, we would like to also add to the contract bike lane sweeping, in addition to additional litter and trash removal on sidewalks and sidewalk cleaning and power washing of our streets and sidewalks. So those are enhancements that we are going to include in the new RFP. The amount of the adjustment, we really don't know yet.

5:18:58
UnidentifiedItem 19

It will be based in a comprehensive financial cost study for the next 10 years for the entire program. The study itself will be conducted by a consultant to ensure compliance with existing law, specifically specifically Proposition 218. The next in the process or next steps are to advertise for a new street-sweeping contract, which is already in the street. Next is to follow the Proposition 218 requirement in completing the study, come back to you for the new rates for the next five years based on the rate study, conduct a public

5:19:39
UnidentifiedItem 19

hearing after a 45-day public notice and we would be looking at adopting the new rates coming up January 2024 and I am open for any questions that you may have.

5:20:19
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

Questions, Councilman Vasquez?

5:20:37
Benjamin VazquezItem 19

I'm just worried that we're going to increase our fees at the same time we're adding new

5:20:40
Benjamin VazquezItem 19

So if not put them together, separate them, because that's going to hit us hard, right? We already get a lot of complaints about the utility bill. And bringing those two things with the street cleaners, but then adding those services, it's going to compound the amount each family is paying and hit them hard. And it's going to be a lot of questions coming at us of why we did this. So I'm just worried about putting that the package is what I'm worried about. I know we have to follow the wages for the street cleaners, but then we're adding services as well.

5:20:47
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

Thank you. Councilman Hernandez?

5:21:30
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 19

No comments at the moment, Mayor Mesquite. Thank you.

5:21:34
Phil BacerraItem 19

Councilman Becerra? Thank you, Madam Mayor. So just, Director Saba, so as far as what would be coming back to us, when would we have an adjusted rate? Like what would the rate be? I'm sorry, not what would the rate be. When would you bring it back to us to understand what the increase would fully be?

5:21:37
UnidentifiedItem 19

I am anticipating the RFP for the going through the RFP for the seed sweeping would give us a good measure on what the new rates will be. We will use that information to complete the rate study. And I am guessing that by maybe October of this year, we would have the package back to you in a recommendation. And again, another maybe work study session to discuss the new contract or the proposals that we're going to be receiving,

5:21:56
UnidentifiedItem 19

but also talk about the adjustment of the rates and what the rate study is going to propose for us.

5:22:32
Phil BacerraItem 19

So in other words, we'll put out the RFP, see what we get back, and then from there you'll come back to the council with an idea of what the rate increase could possibly be. That's the plan. I too have concerns about raising the rates given the increases that our residents are already facing but I don't want to prematurely pass judgment so I'll look to see what staff brings back to us. So Director Saba, thank you for bringing this to us far enough in advance so that we can actually have a good productive discussion about what this might entail because we do not want to provide diminished services for our residents.

5:22:39
Phil BacerraItem 19

So I appreciate you doing that. By the way, it wasn't lost on me that one of the items that you called out in your presentation was an increase in requests for sidewalk cleaning through the MySanAn app. So I imagine that nobody from the legislature contacted you and said that along with SB 946 and SB 972 there would be some funding that comes along with that for the sidewalk cleaning?

5:23:15
UnidentifiedItem 19

We did not have that discussion.

5:23:37
Phil BacerraItem 19

So it would just purely be on the residents then. Okay. Thank you.

5:23:39
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

No other comments? Councilman Hernandez?

5:23:45
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

So our sales tax is 9.25%. We're the highest sales tax in the county, right? Yeah? Is that correct? I looked. I think we have the highest. I'm just asking a generic question. The reason I say that is because I'm not, yeah, you've got to bring this back to me. I'm not sold on this. So, increase in unhoused, so reason for adjustment, increase in unhoused population cleanups in the COLT quality of life team support. So, the funding for the quality of life team support, where does that funding come from?

5:23:51
UnidentifiedItem 19

Some of it comes from the general fund, but some of it also part of this fee.

5:24:31
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

Does the majority come from the general fund?

5:24:37
UnidentifiedItem 19

I'll have to look at those numbers, ma'am.

5:24:39
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

So the reason I ask that is because if we're cleaning up after the quality of life team, it should be coming from the general fund or maybe we can find a grant that, of course, with the housing and homelessness grants that are out there, we can find some other way to pay for that. because I know we have to clean up certain areas but people are you know struggling and now we want to increase their rates here I'm not quite sure I'm not I need more information and we keep talking about prevailing wage you know we do want people to get paid a prevailing wage no doubt but I'd like to

5:24:42
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

see where it's $87.25 with benefits. I've never seen that so I'd like more information on that. $87.25 an hour hourly wage with benefits. I've yet to see that. So I think unless anybody opposes we'd like to hear more. We'll know more when the RFP goes out and they'll be brought back to us. Does that work for everybody?

5:25:22
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

What's the timeline, city manager?

5:25:52
Kristine RidgeItem 19

So today it's just a work study to provide information to you. We'll know more as the director said after the RFP. So we're hoping by fall of this year.

5:25:55
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

September, October? September, October. Okay, perfect. Great. Thank you very much.

5:26:04
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

Thank you. I appreciate that. Okay, let's go to the next one. The next item.

5:26:12
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

Item 21, this item was brought up by Mayor Pro Tem Lopez, Councilman Hernandez, and I know that Congressman Correa has spoken to all of us, I believe, regarding this issue with the park space. So there's information about this, City Manager?

5:26:22
Kristine RidgeItem 19

This is a Councilmember requested item for a discussion with their colleagues.

5:26:43
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

Mayor Pro Tem, you want to go first for Councilman Hernandez?

5:26:48
Jessie LopezItem 19

Thank you. So some of you may know the work that I did prior to being on the council was about park equity because only 4% of our land is dedicated to open space and park land. And so one of the many lessons as was stated earlier from the ongoing pandemic is really the need for the city to prioritize open space in the city of Santa Ana for public health reasons, for mental health reasons, so that our residents have options of spaces that they can go and congregate and celebrate birthdays and just hang out and live.

5:26:50
Jessie LopezItem 19

And so, you know, this is part of the beautification efforts that we're doing in War III. And I want to thank Congressman Correa and his staff, Claudio, who are here, who supported, who met with us, who gave us a briefing about this, some historical context, and also Supervisor Sarmiento's office, who provided a letter of support. The flood channels, they have a lot of lots on this side and so they would be an important partner for us and I just want to thank them for vocalizing their support of this item. And so tonight we just want to, I want it in conjunction

5:27:29
Jessie LopezItem 19

with Councilmember Hernandez because I believe both of our districts about each other here, We wanted to ask our colleagues to support this item to help us achieve more than 4% of open space here in the city of Sanana and to help us give residents more opportunities of open spaces that they can go and congregate and make beautiful memories. And so we just want to make sure that we start the formal process for this. I was going to call you Congressman. Councilmember Hernandez, do you have anything to add?

5:28:07
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 19

You're looking into the future there. I just wanted to say to my colleagues that this is an item that would put San Ana at the forefront of having accessible green space. I want to thank the honorable Congressman Correa for his leadership in facilitating this conversation between our city. That's what leadership in action looks like. I want to thank our supervisor, our former mayor, Vicente Sarmiento. I received your letter of support today. And this is the ability for us to have a park that goes from 5th Street all the way down to Memory Lane, intersecting Ward 5 and Ward 3, and bringing so many families together.

5:28:43
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 19

So that will conclude my comments. I hope that we have a majority support for this item today at the dais.

5:29:22
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

Councilman Penelosa.

5:29:29
David PenalozaItem 19

Thank you, Mayor Mesquia. And thank you, colleagues, for the item. And I want to thank leadership of our local congressman, Mr. Lu Correa, and David Myers from the Wildlands Conservancy for his support regarding this area, this huge swath of open space in our city that could definitely be a huge benefit to all residents in the city. And even the county at large, I mean, it's up against the river bed that frequently sees many, many residents that bike down to the beach, run, jog, and it's a huge opportunity for us to increase that park space.

5:29:31
David PenalozaItem 19

I do want to make sure that as we move forward with this staff that we, and I'm sure they already know, but that we connect with our federal and state partners for that funding. I know that Congressman Lou Correa is obviously supportive, but that we speak to Senator Elmberg and State Assemblymember Avelino Valencia about securing funds because there's a lot of funding currently available, federal and state, and we don't know how long it will be available. And we should definitely try to get every penny we can to make this a reality. So with that, I will end my comments fully supportive of

5:30:14
David PenalozaItem 19

seeing the resolution come back to us to make sure that we see this happen during our lifetime. And I also want to say that quickly that the residents along Riverview Golf Course, specifically along Olona Street, I've spoken to multiple times. And they've been very supportive of seeing that park return to our city. They've showed me their broken windows, their broken cars, their buckets and buckets of golf balls in their garages that they nicely say,

5:30:54
David PenalozaItem 19

you know, we collect them but we don't want to and we'd like this park to be reverted back to the city so that the residents could use it or the land available. With that, those are my comments, Mayor, so thank you. Thank you.

5:31:34
Benjamin VazquezItem 19

Councilman Vasquez, any?

5:31:49
Benjamin VazquezItem 19

Having the ward with one and a half parks. I say one and a half because we shared Jerome Park with Ward 5, Ward 2 and Ward 5. We shared that ward. I'm so excited that we get more park space, that we're, that open up this land and have a place for families to go. We're a park-poor city and this is amazing just to build that. Thank you, Honorable Luke Correa, for partnering up and working on this. And thank you to Councilmember Hernandez and Councilmember Lopez for bringing this forward. This is something that we are in dear need of, to have this land and to have kids play out in the green. Thank you.

5:31:52
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

Councilman Becerra.

5:32:34
Phil BacerraItem 19

Thank you, Madam Mayor. I, too, would like to take this opportunity to thank Congressman Correa for his advocacy on this particular park. With that being said, the only disappointment I have is because the area between 17th and Warner in our city is very park deficient, and I'd hope that we would be increasing park space in a ward or wards that have a need for parks because I think Ward 3, and I'm very proud to say even Ward 4 down on the south end, we have an abundance of park space, but I'll look to staff, we could use some community centers, but we do have park space.

5:32:36
Phil BacerraItem 19

And so while this item is going to add park space that is direly needed by all of our residents, I do wish it was located south of 17th, but I appreciate the advocacy of the Congressman. And I saw the letter of support from Supervisor Sarmanto, and I hope that that will also include some dollars with that because we can advocate and we can cheerlead, but I think it would really be important to see some funding by that. And I know that Congressman Correa's commitment to securing that funding speaks volumes.

5:33:10
Phil BacerraItem 19

So thank you again, Congressman Correa for not only advocating for it, but pushing to make sure we get funding to make this park a reality. Thank you. Council Member Phan.

5:33:40
Thai Viet PhanItem 19

Thank you. I'm very supportive of this. Thank you to Mayor Pro Tem, Council Member Hernandez, Congress Member Correa. I look forward to getting the money. We have the space. We need the money. And that's the only thing stopping us. So very excited for new parks and hopefully to echo what Councilmember Becerra said that, you know, we'll continue to build parks in other areas of the city that's also park poor. Thank you.

5:33:50
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

Thank you. I will also be supporting this item and thank you to Congressman Correa. I know I think the day after I was sworn in, he called me to say we need to talk about a park. So I don't think he gave me a full 24 hours. And so he's been working on this for quite some time. And Claudio, thank you for being here tonight to represent him. Really appreciate that. And I look forward to the park, whether it takes one year or one year, maybe two max, Claudio, we could get moving. Get the Muddy City Manager three years max, I don't know, maybe in my lifetime, hopefully. So yes, I think you got the direction that we're all

5:34:20
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

pretty supportive up here, so thank you.

5:35:02
David PenalozaItem 19

Mayor, if I could quickly add.

5:35:04
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

Quickly.

5:35:08
David PenalozaItem 19

I would, I hope that the resolution comes back before us, maybe first meeting in April, just so that we can assure that our congressman is in town to help us steer this to victory.

5:35:09
Valerie AmezcuaItem 19

Yeah, we can find out when he's in town and then we can invite him. First meeting in April. Is that when he's in town?

5:35:22
Valerie AmezcuaItem 21

Did you confirm that with Claudio or something?

5:35:29
David PenalozaItem 21

I confirm that with the Congressman himself.

5:35:31
Valerie AmezcuaItem 21

Okay. First meeting in April.

5:35:33
Kristine RidgeItem 21

So... Thank you. May I get a clarification so that the item doesn't say anything about a resolution, but that's how you would like us to set forth in a resolution? Yes. Is that what you want?

5:35:36
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 21

Yes. We would like to see a resolution brought forth.

5:35:50
Jessie LopezItem 21

Yeah. There should have been a reso attached to... Is it? Okay. Thank you, Daniel. Thank you for comforting me. Yes. Okay. So there is a resolution if you click on it and read it. We just didn't put it. Okay. Perfect.

5:35:52
Kristine RidgeItem 21

Thank you for the clarification.

5:36:01
Valerie AmezcuaItem 21

All right. Since we clarified when he's going to be in town. Okay. City Manager, do you have any announcements?

5:36:03
Kristine RidgeItem 21

Yes, Honorable Mayor and Council Members. Just a quick one. To kick up National Public Works Week in May, our Public Works Agency invites everyone out, family, friends, for a free community event that will be on Saturday on May 20th from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. at the walnut water pump station and they always put on a very good event with lots of goodies so May 20th 11 a.m. to 3.

5:36:10
Valerie AmezcuaItem 21

that's it all right councilmember comments councilman Vasquez I want to

5:36:35
Benjamin VazquezItem 21

thank a couple of our setup for bringing out Valley High School it was great to see one of my students was here and and I'm a big fan of the arts I do a lot of art in my classroom we do murals at our school and we have art in my office from the students as well I do appreciate that also what I mentioned we went out to clean out a Pacific Electric Park this last weekend we had a good time about 30 people volunteers showed up it was great I had mentioned before that I had students working on a working on community service and and gathering BOOKS FOR THE LOCAL MINI LIBRARIES.

5:36:44
Benjamin VazquezItem 21

IT WAS PART OF A COMPETITION FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE. I THINK WE HAVE A THOUSAND BOOKS. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM OUT. THE COMPETITION WAS REGIONAL AND THE STUDENTS WILL BE GOING ON TO STATE. THEY DID TAKE FIRST PLACE IN THE REGION. SO I'M SO HAPPY FOR THEM. AND HOPEFULLY AFTER WE TAKE STATE, WE'LL BRING THEM OVER AND CELEBRATE THEM.

5:37:23
Valerie AmezcuaItem 21

THANK YOU. COUNCILDAN PENALOSA.

5:37:43
David PenalozaItem 21

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I, before I make my comments, I want to give a very warm welcome to our new city clerk, Ms. Jennifer Hall, who is her first council meeting today and hoping that every resident gets to know her over the next couple of years, number of years, I should say. With that, this Sunday, March 12th is daylight savings time, so we all lose an hour of sleep. So make sure to move your clocks forward an hour on Sunday morning. And with that, I just want to mention, Madam City Manager,

5:37:48
David PenalozaItem 21

that I keep getting approached by many residents in the Madison Park and Doha neighborhoods about, and I hope our Executive Director of Public Works is listening, about the streets along Warner Street that are currently closed for construction and the Warner widening. I've heard from residents along Maple and Oak and Cypress and I believe it's Holiday, but all the streets along Warner Street across the way from Doha Park that they've lived there for 30 plus years. And this is the first time they see kids outside playing in the street. Kids on bikes, kids playing with their ball,

5:38:27
David PenalozaItem 21

people walking safely across the street that they've never seen that before because these neighborhood streets were open to the massive traffic that comes off of Warner. So the last year almost, these streets have all been closed off for construction, and the residents love it. And I know I sent you an email, Director Saba, a couple months ago, and I got a response, but I really want us to, if we closely look at that as we move forward and maybe meet, that'd be great for those residents.

5:39:07
David PenalozaItem 21

One of the residents even said, I'm sure that if I sell my house right now, my property value is probably higher than it is because it's technically a cul-de-sec. Even though it's temporary, the residents love it. So just something to ponder on. And thank you. That's it.

5:39:38
Valerie AmezcuaItem 21

Thank you. Councilman Hernandez.

5:39:54
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 21

Thank you, Mayor Musqua. I want to thank the members of the public who came and attended today's meeting and participated and advocated for what's important to them. I want to wish a happy birthday to Ruben Salazar who was born on March 3rd of 1928. Ruben Salazar was a Mexican-American who was born in the Ciudad de Juarez, Mexico. And he was brought to the United States with his family in 1929. He began his U.S. naturalization process in 1947. He served in the Army, the U.S. Army, for two years.

5:39:56
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 21

After serving in the Army, he attended Texas Western College, and he graduated in 1954 with a degree in journalism. Shout out to all our Texans. He obtained a job as an investigative journalist at the now defuncto El Paso Herald Post. He became the first Mexican-American journalist in California history, working for the Los Angeles Times from 1959 to 1970. During his career he became one of the most prominent figures to talk about the struggles of Chicano people, to talk about our rights that we should be afforded to education and housing, and

5:40:34
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 21

his stance on the war in Vietnam. Unfortunately on August 29th, 1970 during the Chicano moratorium, he was shot and killed by a LA sheriff. The sheriff's name was Thomas Wilson and he struck Ruben Salazar on the head with a projectile tear gas projectile and he was immediately killed the Chicano moratorium is something that empowers many of us it's the reason why the Chicano Heritage Festival takes place on the last Sunday in the month of August is to commemorate the death of Ruben Salazar still we mourn still we say his

5:41:10
Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 21

name and I wish his family a happy Angelversary to him. Thank you.

5:41:50
Phil BacerraItem 21

Councilman Becerra. Thank you, Madam Mayor. I would also like to welcome our new City Clerk, Jennifer. I'm glad to have you aboard. Hopefully you'll be here more than just a couple of years.

5:41:59
Phil BacerraItem 21

March 4th, I just wanted to give a shout out to OCFA, Orange County Fire Authority who who provides our services for fire and emergency here in Santa Ana, hosted its first open house since 2019. It was great to see all the residents and especially the children out there that got to ride on the fire engines, try out the fire hoses, which sounds kind of peculiar and amazing, but yeah, we saw kids with fire hoses and they were out there enjoying the live demonstrations. One thing I'm excited about is that while this particular open house took place over at the fire authority headquarters,

5:42:11
Phil BacerraItem 21

I was told that there will be open houses at the individual fire stations here in Santa Ana later this year, so stay tuned for that. I'd like to encourage folks to get involved with the city budget process, and a great way to do that is to participate in the community meetings that are coming up. The next one is going to be at McFadden Intermediate, or as they call it now, MIT, on Thursday, March 9th at 6 p.m. I wanted to congratulate the Floral Park neighborhood on being officially approved as a federal and state recognized historic district.

5:42:47
Phil BacerraItem 21

So Floral Park, which was originally known as North Broadway Park, now joins downtown and French Park as the only districts in Santa Ana that are listed on the National Register of Historic Places. So congratulations again, Floral Park. And I wanted to wish those that celebrate St. Patrick's arrival in Ireland a very happy St. Patrick's Day. And please celebrate responsibly. Thank you and have a good night.

5:43:22
Valerie AmezcuaItem 21

Thank you. So I'm not going to have any comments other than say thank you. Those who spoke tonight. Well, I have a few. I'm sorry. I want to thank you, Norma, for covering as the clerk. Thank you very very much. I know I've only arrived a few months now but you're very helpful. You've always been very helpful to me so and I know too many others sitting up here. So thank you for your service. Thank you very much and welcome Jennifer.

5:43:50
Valerie AmezcuaItem 21

Madam City Manager, I'd like an update from the joint school district and city meetings that are happening. I've been here, I'm new so I'd like to know when what is going on with them and what is the plan and what they're working on so if you can set that up for the next meeting I'd really appreciate that. I'm gonna close.

5:44:25
Jessie LopezItem 21

Mayor, can I provide my comments? No I'm already we're done. I'm gonna go back and

5:44:47
Valerie AmezcuaItem 21

close session but thank you. I'm gonna close. Well then I move to have the floor. is there a second? Thank you. I want to close the meeting. We have to go back into closed session.

5:44:53
Jessie LopezItem 21

No, I know, but everybody gets the opportunity to provide closing comments.

5:45:01
Valerie AmezcuaItem 21

Oh, I'm sorry. You didn't do it. I apologize. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I apologize. My bad. I have a cold.

5:45:05
Jessie LopezItem 21

Thank you. No, totally get it. So first I just want to congratulate Mr. Crockett for being appointed to the Personnel Commission finally I did that and I think tonight's agenda is a culmination of all of the work that we've done with the Saddleback View lights thank you for being part of that process that's the with the Caltrans funding with you know the Santa Clara and Bristol traffic signal installation I just want to thank our staff Public Works you know that is the outcome of the meetings that we had with Riverview neighborhood association it was something that they had been asking for for many years and so I'm

5:45:12
Jessie LopezItem 21

very proud of the work that we've done with the different neighborhoods in conjunction with our staff with the city manager thank you for listening and and for putting something into action I also just want to echo the mayor's sentiments and thank you Norma you you really stepped up at a very difficult time for so many of us here. You should be very proud of yourself. I know that your team is proud of you. We're all proud of you, so thank you for your work. And then, you know, on a sad note, I just would like us to end tonight's meeting in the memory of Gerardo Moet, who has passed away. And, you know, if you know

5:45:53
Jessie LopezItem 21

the family, please just reach out. I think it would mean a lot to them to hear from people who spent many years here and you know his kids are born and raised in the city of Santa Ana they live in the Park Santiago neighborhood and so please if you can reach out to the family in this very difficult time. So thank you have a good night.

5:46:32
Valerie AmezcuaItem 21

Councilmember Finn.

5:46:52
Thai Viet PhanItem 21

Thank you Mayor. I wanted to echo what Councilmember Becerra mentioned regarding the community budget meeting. We had the first budget meeting at New Hope Library on March 1st, and it was really fun to hear a lot of your ideas, your thoughts, your concerns. Staff takes it very seriously. So please, please, please do the surveys, attend those meetings. It's vitally important for us to hear from you directly. Thank you to Norma. Welcome to Jennifer. And everyone, please stay safe out there. I know that the state, the governor says there's no longer a COVID emergency and the president

5:46:55
Thai Viet PhanItem 21

says there's no state of emergency, but here I am three years avoiding COVID and I still caught it. Luckily, it's a, I think overall a mild case, but still get tested, still take care of yourself and still mask up in crowded areas. With that, good night.

5:47:35
Valerie AmezcuaItem 21

Thank you. I'm going to close this meeting in memory of Gerardo Mouet. Gerardo was born and raised in Tijuana, Mexico. He came to the United States as a young man and earned an education that would eventually land him in public service. Gerardo began working for the city of Santa Ana in September of 1990 as an outreach program coordinator. He moved his way up the ranks working as an assistant to the city manager in 2002. Then later that year promoted to assistant directors of Parks and Rec. Gerardo promoted again and served as the executive director of Parks and Recreation from 2004 to 2018.

5:47:55
Valerie AmezcuaItem 21

During his tenure in Parks and Rec, he helped add 10 new parks, supported quality joint use projects, and enhanced engagement with the community. Because of his experience in leadership, Gerardo also served as the acting city manager from December 2016 to April 2017.

5:48:37
Valerie AmezcuaItem 21

Excuse me. During his time in this role, Gerardo exercised his passion of working across all city departments to support projects that enhance the quality of life for all residents. Gerardo also went on to serve as the director of parks and rec for the city of Long Beach from 2018 to 2020. There he assisted in adding new parks and improving relations within the community. He retired from the City of Long Beach in 2020.

5:49:00
Valerie AmezcuaItem 21

Gerardo passed away this morning Tuesday, March 7th. He leaves behind his wife Jenny and their two adult children Monica and Andrew. Gerardo has made an immeasurable impact in our community and I am saddened to learn of his passing. We all are sad to learn of his passing and he will be missed dearly. And this meeting is closed in his honor.

5:49:30
UnidentifiedItem 21

Thank you.

5:50:19
UnidentifiedItem 21

Thank you.

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