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Clerk, please start the meeting at this time.

You're good to go, Madam Mayor.

I hereby call the closed session meeting to order this meeting taking place with in-person in attendance and by teleconference via Zoom. The public may access the meeting via the Santa Ana YouTube channel or the city's website. Please bear with us as the technology may disrupt the flow of the meeting. Madam Clerk, please conduct the roll call.

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Present. Thank you. Any member of the Council would like to take this time to announce her abstentions? Please let me know.

Madam Clerk, do we have any speakers for closed session at this time? No, we do not.

Great. Thank you. We will be recessing this portion of the meeting to consider the items listed on the closed session agenda. Thank you very much.

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I'm ready to start this meeting. We're live. I hereby call the regular open meeting to order.

This meeting is taking place with in-person attendance and by teleconference via Zoom, the public may access the meeting via the Santa Ana YouTube channel or the city's website. Please bear with us as the technology may disrupt the flow of the meeting. Madam Clerk, please conduct the roll call.

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Present. Madam Clerk, before we proceed to the Pledge of Allegiance, please make an announcement.

To request to speak on agenda or non-agenda items within the city's jurisdiction, please dial star 9 from your phone or click the button labeled Raise Hand from Zoom at this time. Please announce your name and ward or neighborhood you reside in within the city of Santa Ana for the record.

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Council Member Bessire, can you lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance, please? Thank you, Madam Mayor. If you'd all please rise. Please, place your hand over your heart and begin. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, in the visible, liberty and justice for all.

Thank you, Councilman Sarah. This time I'd like to call up Pastor Antwin Nguyen, please, for words of inspiration.

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Good evening, everyone. Mayor and city of Santa Ana City Council, thank you very much for inviting me to impart some words of inspiration today. Okay, in preparation for my speech, I read Santa Ana Mayor Valerie Amescua bio, along with her first newsletter, and interesting, found that she's the first female mayor in the city history of 150 years. Then I read the city manager, Christine Rich bio, as well as the bio of every member of city council.

All of you have a very impressive track record and well qualified to serve the people of Santa Ana as their leaders. Currently, I'm serving as the executive director for an association of 70 Southern Baptist churches with 15 different groups of people. Therefore, I appreciate the challenging task that you have to serve this multicultural community. And now, will you please join me in prayer? Father God, we thank you and praise you for your goodness and your charity.

We come together this evening seeking your blessing on the leaders of our city council, the city manager, and our city staff. Generously grant them your divine wisdom to govern amid the conflicting interests and issues we face today. Give each of them the discernment to sense the welfare and true needs of the residents of Santa Ana. Give them the wisdom to lead and bless their decisions to be right and to be good for the city and the people. Lord, we pray for grace, mercy, and peace in our community. give us the wisdom from above

that is first of all pure then peace loving, considerate, submissive full of mercy and good fruit impartial and sincere such a wisdom definitely would keep us in harmony and unity when we have diverse ideas and interests and I pray again Father that as the city council will discuss their agenda and craft policies for our city they will always put the people's interest first and above of all remind them that they are in this position not to be served

but to serve the public just as Christ who is a king came not to be served but to serve and ultimately die on the cross to save us In Jesus' name we pray together. Amen. Amen.

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City Attorney, do you have anything to report out of closed session at this time?

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We had several closed session items this evening, Mayor, Councilmembers, and the public, but we do not have any reportable action.

Thank you. This is the time of the meeting for the City Council to receive comments from the public.

Oh my goodness, I apologize. I need to do the proclamations. I'm trying to move this through here. I apologize.

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Councilman Hernandez, do you want to come up with me first? You do yours? Absolutely.

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All right. If we can please have members of the Second Baptist Church of Santa Ana join us here in the front. Please join us here in the front. And members of the Orange County Heritage Council, if Mr. Duane Shipp is present. If you are not present, you are with us in spirit, my brother.

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Well, welcome to the People's House here in Santa Ana. And today, February 7th, 2023, we are making a historic proclamation and declaring February 2023 as Black History Month. And we are presenting this proclamation to Second Baptist Church of Santa Ana. Today we are joined by Senior Pastor Ivan Pitts and Kalita Gardner. And for those of you who are aware of the importance of this month, as you know, the observation of Black History Month began in 1976. It is a time to recognize and honor African-American leaders and those leaders that came from the past the

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present and those leaders that will take us into the future those leaders that have contributed to the progress of this nation and I'm humbled to stand here with our mayor Valerie Mesquah and and joining us today is Second Baptist Church of Santa Ana and during the pandemic the church partnered with the Orange County healthcare agency. Governor Newsom's office, CalOptima, and UCI organizations to bring 3,500 COVID-19 vaccination testing clinics to the community. In addition to that, they collaborated with their local

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grocery outlets to provide groceries to families who needed it. Over 700 shut-in seniors who didn't have access to food, single mothers, families, benefited from their services during a critical time in the pandemic. Second Baptist Church also provided over $20,000 in gift cards, playground equipment, toys, and food to New Hope Elementary School students and faculty. They annually give over $100,000 to community organizations that are like-minded with their core value to serve every nation, generation, and any situation.

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For over 40 years, there has been a prominent, thriving black leadership here in Orange County, and it's coming out of Santa Ana. Today, in 2023, during Black History Month, Second Baptist Church is actually celebrating 100 years in Santa Ana. So let's make some noise, Because that is black history.

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And in Santa Ana, we are surrounded by black history and we are reminded that African Americans have helped shape this city that we love. The next individual that we want to talk about is not joining us here today in person, but their presence is certainly felt all around us. And that is the Ship family, the Ship family of residents to the city of Santa Ana. and 43 years ago Helen M. Shipp founded the Black History Parade in her backyard of Raiden Willits. The first participants were her eight children. That parade ended up growing to have over 30,000 participants in Santa Ana and we look forward to one day bringing that back

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and I hear the 45th year Mayor Mescal is looking like a good year. But the, yes, the Orange County Heritage Council coordinates an annual youth contest. the Black History Parade which they founded in Orange County here in Santa Ana and more recently they founded the Juneteenth Festival here with our city last year. Today we pay tribute and we honor Second Baptist Church of Santa Ana who is celebrating their hundredth birthday and we want to thank them for their ministry and and for those 40 years so if you can join us and sing in them happy birthday we'd like to do that. Alright so on the count of three we're

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gonna sing y'all happy birthday today so on the count of three one two three happy birthday to you happy birthday to you happy birthday second baptist happy birthday to you happy black history month

I just want to say thank you so much to our first woman mayor of our city. Thank you for your service. We pray that you will continue to thrive, and Second Baptist will support you in any way possible. I'll make one quick remark. Now, you guys can't tell my church I'll make a quick remark. At church, I can make long remarks, but today I'll make a quick remark. A hundred years ago, blacks weren't allowed to worship with whites, and that's why we are Second Baptist Church. And today, we have a church that is diverse. So we've come a mighty long way, and we're going to continue to move forward because love is greater than hate.

That's all I have to say. God bless you. Thank you.

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We're going to get some words. Just real briefly, I'll be even briefer. At Second Baptist Church, we desire to have an impact on the community. It is our desire that if anything happened to us, that you would miss us. So we want to serve everyone, and we're just honored for this honor today. God bless.

Very briefly, happy birthday. Happy, happy birthday.

I look good for 100.

You do. You look great for 100. I'm going to look like you when I'm 100. But thank you for all that you do for our community. We really are blessed to have you and thank you. So let's take a photo if we can, please.

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Oh, we want you all over here. We're going to spread out over here. Yeah, this is Orange County history.

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All right, here we are. American Heart.

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Oh, I got you. All right. Well, we have another amazing and powerful proclamation, but before we do that, let's please make some noise for our community, Second Baptist Church.

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A warm welcome and a thank you to all of their service. You are making Orange County and Santa Ana a better place, and we thank you. Today we will be honoring February 7th, 2023. We will be honoring and declaring February as American Heart Month. Today I would like to humbly ask if the American Heart Association of Orange County can join us. Marlem Valdovinos, Senior Director. Lani Gokiala and Don Hoan. If you are present, please make your way to the front.

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Yes, please, please get comfortable. Let's give them a warm welcome to the Santa Ana City Council. A round of applause for them.

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Joining us today to accept this proclamation are Mark Lem, Valdovinos, Lani Goquiala, and Don Hoem from the American Heart Association of Orange County. Not everybody could be present today. If those who could not be here, your presence is missed, and we thank you. The American Heart Association collaborates with a broad range of stakeholders in Santa Anna that includes the school district our government nonprofit organizations our corporate community the neighborhood clinical and community organizations their mission is to identify and create initiatives that and opportunities for

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sustainable lens have impact that help reduce health disparities and improve cardiovascular health for all sustainable impact comes from policy we know that it comes from systems and it comes from environmental changes and key health focus areas such as high blood pressure, nutrition security, hands-on CPR training, and the elimination of flavored tobacco. Some examples of the American Heart Association's collective work in Santa Ana include actively participating in the Santa Ana Early Learning Initiative also known as SALEE.

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Number two is hands-on CPR training for district parent leaders. Number three is the heart health education at the Mexican consulate in Santa Ana and number four is the flavored tobacco ban advocacy and blood pressure awareness campaign they held in the WIC centers and in affordable housing all throughout Orange County they also participated and supported the wellness corridor and secured funding for the placement of the first blood pressure kiosk in Santa Ana many of you have seen those blood pressure kiosks in a CVS or a Rite Aid your kids want to put their arms in it that's our buddies here this month we

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come together and we ignite a wave of red from coast to coast wearing red lighting landmarks to online communities cardiovascular disease does not have any borders we encourage you to make a commitment we encourage you to take charge of your own health and as well as the as well as the health of those that you love tonight we the mayor and the council of the city of Santa Ana do you hereby proclaim February 2023 as American Heart Month, and we encourage everyone to live a heart-healthy lifestyle. Thank you, and congratulations on all of the fantastic work that you've done.

Thank you, everyone. My name is Lonnie Gokiala, and I'm the Executive Director for the American Heart Association here in Orange County. First and foremost, we really want to just thank everyone because our mission is to be a relentless force for a world of healthier longer lives and we cannot do that without the community and the support of the community so again thank you all for all of your support and your help I do have a challenge for everyone being that it is heart month is to please learn how to do hands-only CPR many of you saw what happened on the NFL field with

the Marham and again would love to challenge each and every one of you to learn how to become a lifesaver because you never know when you will need it. Three out of four arrests happen at home so it's super important especially for parents and people that have care for their older parents to please learn CPR. It's very simple. It takes just two steps. Call 911 and press hard and fast. So I see the child is nodding yes because she probably learned it in school right through our youth challenge. So again please thank you everyone for your support I wanted to have Markham say a few words thank you

thank you mayor thank you everyone so much here for for this amazing proclamation for heart month as some of you may know I've been working here in this beautiful community of Santa Ana for the past 12 years some of my wonderful community leaders are here and I want to continue embracing and growing in this heart health month

to support us and to learn and continue to teach them to their children and their community. I thank you very much. And please, we will take care of our hearts. So thank you so much.

And I also forgot, I would love to mention, I hope we come back again next year, because next year you all can sing happy birthday to us, because we will be 100 years old.

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Hi, everyone. Good evening. If I could please have the folks from the Sanana Youth Mental Health Subcommittee come up, that would be great. And anyone that's going to be part of the recognition.

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Like the board members, anyone, yes.

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Well, good evening, everyone. We are here tonight because we are going to be proclaiming the We Care Month to help raise awareness with the suicide prevention campaign that the school district has launched. And so I'm really proud to be along with so many of the partners that we've been working with for the past couple months, years. And one of those committees is called the Santa Ana Youth Mental Health Subcommittee of the Santa Ana Task Force and other organizations that are a part of this.

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And so we are recognizing the district's annual We Care Month to raise awareness of suicide prevention and mental health education for young people this month. And in 2018, a report was released by the Orange County Health Care Agency that stated that suicide was the second leading cause of death for 15 to 24-year-olds, accounting for one in five deaths in this age group. And so the age of adolescence is a critical time period in life as it is characterized by mental and emotional changes. And our school district established the We Care Get Help campaign in 2015 to create suicide

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awareness in K to 12 schools and and and created a universal district wide effort that focused on messaging training outreach to our families to the parents and suicide prevention and additionally SAUSD wanted to continue to equip teachers and staff and the families how to respond to when a student is in crisis and how to increase awareness of warning signs and risk factors. So SAUD is really equipped to serve as a centralized point due to their investment in youth mental health access,

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and it has built the infrastructure to serve as the centralized point for youth mental health services. And so some of those services include mental health professionals, coordination of services teams, school social workers, family and community engagement liaisons, school counselors, after-school professionals, registered nurses, and licensed school psychologists. And they partner with hospitals, mental health professionals, and other nonprofit groups to make this

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vision become a reality. So I'm really proud to proclaim February 2023 as the We Care Month and to recognize the Santa Ana Unified School District and the Youth Mental Health Up Committee for their important work. And some of the folks that are present here today are the CEO of The Wooden Floor, which is Dawn Reese. Dawn.

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David Elliott from the Chamber. Nina Kwan, the Executive Director of Noroos Clinic. Lisa Solomon Steve Bressler Jerry Almond that is Dr. Alfonso Alvarez Dr. Lorraine Perez Katie Brazer Dr. Susie Lopez Guerra Dr. Sonia Lamas Christo Diaz David Ritchie and that's just the folks that were part of the subcommittee there's a much bigger umbrella that have been part of this effort that could not be here today but I wanted to give Dawn and the board members and the superintendent the opportunity to address the public and to talk about the importance of this effort.

I made a couple remarks so I'd like to thank the City of Santa Ana, Council Mayor Emesqua, Mayor Pro Tem Jesse Lopez, council members for today's proclamation. When we began the Santa Ana Youth Mental Health Subcommittee in 2018, we created a community collective of like-minded people from companies, nonprofits, education, higher education, faith, and health care who all have and had and have a heart for children and helping them to access mental health services in our city. Our steering committee met over the next three years.

Due to our own due diligence efforts, we wanted to ensure that we looked for all the ways that children could access mental health access, education, and service delivery to create our set of recommendations, which we're currently just in the beginning stages of implementing with this proclamation today. and also if you've been by the freeway on the five the water tower is now red and so it's very exciting to shine the light on our work today so the answer was right in front of us when we looked who was the best organization to wrap

the whole city this collective group of people in our beautiful city of Santa Santa Ana to wrap the energy around. And instead of recreating the wheel because that wasn't the goal, it was to bring all of this collective energy around Santa Ana Unified. I'm humbled and honored today for this proclamation by the City of Santa Ana, recognizing the extraordinary efforts of the Santa Ana Unified School District, which is bridging the work between our two entities, between the City and Santa Ana Unified. I want to thank Mayor Pro Tem, Jessie Lopez.

When she heard these big ideas, she immediately saw the vision and has been on our committee for almost the last year. So I want to thank you. And also I'd like to thank staff member Mike Garcia and his team who ensured that the water tower was lit red. And he didn't even share it with us. He surprised us. And I just want to thank him if he's listening. It's now a beacon of hope to ensure that all children and their families will be able to navigate their path to SAUSD and ensure that they have the access to help gain greater awareness about suicide prevention and mental health education.

I also would be remiss if I didn't thank my co-chair, Drake Leveshev, our subcommittee members for their faithful years of service even during the pandemic, and also Jerry Almendariz, Dr. Sonia Llamas, Dr. Susie Lopez, David Ritchie, and Mira Mesqua for all of your visionary leadership that you had in order to ensure that all of our students in Santa Ana Unified and all the children of Santa Ana have those resources they need to live really amazing lives for themselves. And I'd also like to thank Dave Elliott who's chairs and founded the Santa Ana Task Force AND NOW IT'S CHAIRED BY STEVE BRESSLER.

AND LASTLY, I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK MY OWN BOARD AT THE WOODEN FLOOR FOR GIVING ME THE SUPPORT SO I CAN LEAD THIS IMPORTANT INITIATIVE. THANK YOU.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO DON AND THE WOODEN FLOOR FOR CHAIRING THE COMMITTEE, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZE DR. YAMAS AND HER TEAM AND ALSO EXTEND THE RECOGNITION TO THE MAYOR WHO WAS PART OF A BOARD THAT BACK IN 2015 REALLY FOUND HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS FOR MENTAL HEALTH TO BE ON THE FRONT BURNER. SO WE CAN'T THANK THE CITY ENOUGH FOR THEIR COLLABORATION. COUNCILWOMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PROCESS AND WE JUST CAN'T, WE'RE JUST SO EXCITED ABOUT THE COLLECTIVE IMPACT EFFORT THAT we're going to have hopefully having an impact on our students in a positive way. So thank you.

Good evening, Mayor, City Council Member, City Manager. I'm Dr. Alfonso Alvarez. I'm also a social worker by profession. I would like to express my heartfelt gratitude to the Senate and City Council for its proclamation supporting the We Care Mental Health Awareness and Suicide Prevention Campaign. This proclamation will serve as a powerful show of unity and an important statement that we all care about the mental health of our community. Mental health has become even more important during these uncertain times. We have had to face and adapt to many changes, and mental health issues can add an extra layer of stress and hardship.

It is essential that we remain united and work together to address mental health issues in our community. The We Care campaign is an opportunity for all of us to rally together and focus on mental health and suicide prevention. That is why I'm so thankful to the Southern City Council for the proclamation and commitment to this important cause. I hope that our community can come together and join the We Care campaign to create a strong mental health safety net for those who need it. Thank you once again for your commitment to mental health and suicide prevention

in Sanana and thank you for lighting the water tower in red as a sign of your ongoing support.

Good evening Mayor Mezqua and City Council members and community members. My name is Caitlin Breza Aceves, many of you know me as Katie as well. It's good to see a lot of familiar folks and community here tonight. I just really wanted to quickly express my gratitude, deep gratitude to the Santa Ana City Council for your proclamation and support of our district's We Care Mental Health Awareness and Suicide Prevention Campaign. I get to work as a family community liaison outside of my role as a board member. With SAUSD, I'm a family community liaison in another school district and I get to work in our schools with students, families,

and educators each day. And so a big shout out to our faces who are present today. I have a similar role. And so I deeply appreciate the work that y'all do too to support our students' mental health. So I get to see the realness of mental health and how it impacts our students in all school districts, right, and in all of our families each and every day. and so I think it's the work like the committee who has been doing this work for quite a while I recently joined the board in the past this last December and

so it's an honor to be able to join in this work that's been happening already and to see all the great work that's being done so I just really wanted to express my gratitude to the committee and and mayor pro tem Jesse Lopez for all of your efforts over the past years to really bring this to this point of proclamation as a city to to really stand together with the district the school district with san anna unified and as a city to really send out the message that we care literally you know as our campaign is is named but also to make that space for our students and families to know that there

are these safe spaces and people who they can come to to to get support for any kind of mental health concerns or things that they may be navigating or at home or in the community and so I work I'm really looking forward to working in collaboration with the city and our council members on other future initiatives to better support our collective community and I just really I'm really proud to be part of this and really hope that this helps send that message out to our community that we care and I really again just have a lot of gratitude and appreciation for you all for making mental health a priority

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for us here in Santa Ana thank you thank you everyone so there is gonna be a month-long of activities please follow the districts page social media so that you can support there's gonna be a resource first where you can attend also and it's just really important that as a community we are united and ensuring that our that our youth understand that we are here to support them and that they are not alone. So thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you. This is the time of the meeting for the City Council to receive comments from the public on agenda and non-agenda items. Pursuant to the Brown Act, the City Council may not enter into discussion at this time. We will now hear from the members of the public that are physically present in the council chambers first and then hear from those that are on the conference call or Zoom. Madam Clerk, I have the list here. Do you want to?

All right, let's get started. Due to the number of comments, we're going to go to a two-minute time limit. and then I'm going to, item 32 has quite a bit of speakers, so we're going to do a couple firsts and then go straight to item 32. So everybody has an opportunity to speak. Anthony Barella, please, followed by Tim Johnson, followed by Sinan, I'm sorry if I say that, Singh Sefi from SEVA. Please just get in line. Thank you to speak. Thank you. Mr. Barella, you have two minutes, please.

Hi, good morning. My name is Anthony Barella. I'm a fourth generation member of the Santa Ana community. I'm here today with the hopes of shedding some light on some issues that we face every day as a member of the community. Last week, I was actually pulled over by Santa Ana police motorcycle for a modified exhaust. I am a working man who was on my way to work, and the issue is not about being pulled over. The issue is with the way that I was treated during this stop. During the stop, I was asked multiple times if I had guns or drugs on me or in my vehicle, after answering no multiple times.

The officers then began to continue to ask me if I was on probation or parole, which I am not. These officers took and ran my information and continued to insinuate that I may be on probation and again asked me about guns. I was informed that my vehicle was going to be impounded. I was taken out of my vehicle, placed with my hands behind my back. The officer then grabbed my fingers and began to search me for weapons or guns or drugs, again asking me if I was in possession of weapons or drugs. As I remind you, I was only being pulled over for a modified exhaust. This police officer then had me take a seat.

I asked if I could take a seat on the parking block and was told I had to sit on the ground. This was in the middle of a parking lot where there was plenty of oil all over the floor, and I was told still to sit on the ground. As I was being released, I had asked the officer back for my ID. When I had went to reach for my ID, the officer dropped it on the floor directly in front of me. Now, unfortunately, this is not where it ends. We not only have to deal with being dehumanized, we have to go through the financial aspects of the impound.

I not only had to pay impound fees, I had to miss work, I had to go to a hearing to allow my vehicle to be released prior to 30 days and pay the San Ana Police Department $135 fee to fill out a form. Again, all being pulled over because...

Thank you, Speaker. Your time is up. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Rowland. Tim Johnson, please.

Hi. Good evening, Mayor Pro Tem and the rest of the council. I want to speak real quick as a reminder. We have, I think, some appointments tonight, but we need to have some more appointments. I am on the Measure X Oversight Committee, and we currently do not have enough people on our committee to have our next meeting. This is a problem. And so if you're one of the folks that has a vacancy in your ward, I would ask that you please urgently

find the right people to serve the residents in your ward and appoint someone at the next meeting because if it goes beyond that I don't think that we're able to have our next meeting which we are supposed to be giving you all a report which we can't do that unless we have enough people to have a meeting so that's my reminder and I hopefully hopefully the next meeting we WE HAVE SOME APPOINTMENTS. SO WE CAN HAVE A FULL, NOT ONLY A MINIMUM, BUT WE HAVE A FULL COMMITTEE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ALL SHOULD BE DOING, REPRESENTING THOSE IN OUR DISTRICTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

SANAD SINGH SEFFEE. I APOLOGIZE. I'M SURE I SAID THAT LONG.

YOU'RE DOING GREAT. HI MY NAME IS SANAD SINGH SEFFEE. I'M REPRESENTING THE SEVA COLLECTIVE. and I'm accompanied by Bandana Singh and Ravind Kohli, the two other directors here with me in the audience. Can you speak closer to the mic? Of course. We run a food distribution here in Santa Ana at the SAUSD headquarters. And first of all, I wanted to thank you, Mayor Mesquale, for being our supporter for many, many, many years.

And I wanted to also thank the city council members and the city manager's office for helping us with the Revive Santa Ana grant.

I also wanted to thank SAUSD, who's been an amazing partner for us in the city and allowed us to use their headquarters to do the food distributions that we've been doing for the last several years. And we're excited to be able to continue our service here in the city, serving the community. Over the last three years, we've served nearly three million meals worth of food to the residents of Santa Ana.

And we still serve about a thousand families a month here in the city. And we have an amazing group of volunteers, hundreds of volunteers who are participating actively and coming out on a semi-monthly basis to help with the food distributions.

So we just wanted to thank you for the faith you've put into us to allow us to serve the city. and we look forward to collaborating with you and partnering with you for many years to come. Thank you.

Thank you. Michael Barron and Nellie Turtleheart-Legaspe, please.

Thank you. Good evening, Madam Mayor, Council members and staff. Thank you for this opportunity to allow me to state my grievance. It's Republic Services. My brother and I own two apartment complexes on Broadway Street in Santa Ana. We've had to wait for service for seven days for a pickup of trash from over 100 people. That's like, and the city has a woman on their task force. Her name is Daisy. She's the politest thing I've ever met. I've talked to the Santa Ana operations manager, Omar.

He's very polite, and he always sends a truck within 48 hours of the time that I call him. but I have placed over 100 calls with my tenants and with our resident manager, and that's the only way we can get service.

For example, between December, in the month of December, there were 13 scheduled pickups. Only three were completed per schedule. In January, we had another 13 pickups were scheduled. Only one was completed. I've got 100 people throwing trash into dumpsters. You've got food waste. You've got hygiene products. You've got tissues. You've got rotting food. This is an eyesore. I know you don't want slum-like conditions in the city of Santa Ana, and yet the inability

of Republic Services to be consistent in picking up the trash is creating that condition. Certainly, there must be a non-performance agreement in the contract that this council or the previous council set up. It's not fair for the people to suffer. For seven months, this Republic Services, a national company, cannot service your community. I don't care what else they're doing, but if they can't do the basics, you need to do something about it, please.

Mayor, time is up.

Good evening, Mayor Mesquah, Mayor Pro Tem, and City Council members and neighbors. Good evening. My name is Nellie Ann Maya Turtle-Heart-Legaspe. I am the personnel commissioner representing Ward 5, living in Ward 3. I'm also the chairwoman. I'm here to ask those of you who have vacancies to please appoint commissioners, ASAP. I even brought one with me. Tonight you're going to be swearing in one. We need it. If the residents do not know, the personnel commission conducts the hearings for the employees and the police officers who appeal their discipline and or their termination.

It is vital that the same members that are a part of the commission here on a hearing are consistent. It's only fair to the employees that they have consistent members on the board. We've been functioning with only five. right now we're down to four that is not okay we want to make sure that we're treating the employees fairly they get a good hearing for the residents what we do is we actually have a hearing right here in city council where we see the evidence it is a non-political commission i'll say it again it's not political we do not communicate with the council members at all they don't tell us what to

do we follow the rules and the evidence and that's it and if you hear anything about this commission they will tell you we are by the book we don't play games so I would encourage anyone that is out there in the community that wants to get involved in their city and do their civic duty please reach out to us reach out to your council members the staff does give us training we're not just thrown out in the wind by ourselves we conduct it very efficiently it is busy but it's precise and concise and sufficient so please council members I'm not going to call out what wards need

i'll fill in i won't do that but you know who you are so i'm begging you please like the other commissioner said i know y'all are busy but let us do some of the work for you that we're here to help you out that's what your commissioners are for to help you out so please once again if you're interested please look to us and let us know thank you good evening thank you day valia followed by

Danny Vega followed by Mike Carter.

You can line up when I call your name, please, so in the interest of time. Thank you.

Honorable Mayor Mesquite, members of the City Council, I sent these comments to you last night but I'm here tonight too so I thought I'd just read those comments to you. This is regarding agenda item 32. As President and CEO of the San Anais Chamber of Commerce, I wanted to comment on this issue. I think it's very important that any business operating in our fine city needs to comply with all the regulations they are required to. If a regulation is not good, then change it. Unsafe and non-permitted vending is not fair nor good business to allow some to slide by while others comply.

We want to be open for business and business friendly, but there are conditions that all need to follow. Lastly, enforcement of the regulations, again, needs to be fair for all. Many of our businesses have gone down the path with major investments in their businesses and then have to take some disadvantage of not complying. That's not good for business here in Santa Ana. So I just ask you to look at agenda item 32 and from a good business perspective, we need all businesses to comply with the regulations that are set forth by our city and by our county. Thank you.

Thank you.

Danny Vega good evening council and mayor my name is Danny resident of Ward 3 and I'm here in support of councilmember Becerra's item to take a harsh stance against unsafe and unpermitted sidewalk food vendors we as a city need to send a message that if you want to conduct business here you You are welcome to do so, but you have to follow our laws. We cannot function as a society if we decide that some laws are not worth enforcing.

I also stand in solidarity with these Santa Ana businesses who have been impacted by vendors who have decided that the law does not apply to them and have given themselves an unfair advantage. I also stand with those businesses who are afraid to speak up due to retaliation or because they don't want Telemundo knocking at the door.

Also think about the taxpayers' point of view. We gave ourselves the highest tax rate in Orange County. We pat ourselves on the back because we legalized marijuana and one of the main reasons of that was because we could use the tax revenue to fund programs that we need and then we're gonna allow these corporations and forget where they come from to come here and not pay taxes and contribute to our city please this should not be controversial I hope that you make it loud and clear and not politically sidestep and let everyone know don't come to my ward unless you're willing to to follow our laws. Thank you.

Mike Carter, followed by Guillermo Lazzaldi, followed by Roberto Guzman.

Thank you. My name is Mike Carter. I also am here today to complain about the street vendor problem. We have a real issue that has been going on for months, and the city of Santa Ana has been terrific about trying to deal with this. I personally witnessed five different times when code enforcement confiscated the equipment from this company that's doing business here. They're a franchise business out of Los Angeles, and they're not concerned for our well-being.

This has gone on so long that the asphalt company, American Asphalt, has already come out to patch up the area along our gutters because the degreaser they use breaks down the asphalt and creates a safety hazard. People have actually tripped in the potholes. We have potholes again. This is costing you time and money. Please help us. I know you're doing a really good job. Don't give up. Thanks for your time. Good night.

Guillermo Alzaldi.

Guillermo.

Roberta Guzman.

Followed by Nancy Tarrin.

for having brought this topic to the table. Thank you very much. Thank you for all the owners of the food of the food of the food of Santa Ana. We're going to be with the same situation. We're increasing the sales. Every day there are one or two more in the city of Santa Ana and they continue to be burling of the authorities. They don't care anything. They're working very hard, the department, code enforcement, the police, but it is not enough. If using the banquette can't be able to give a sanction more strong, I think and opinion that by selling food with

high risk of contamination, I think that affects the residents of the city. That is where I think we could work. Because of other ways, this people are doing what they want. as the young man said earlier, this is not a city to come to work or do what they like, we have rules, we pay taxes, we pay taxes, we pay taxes and we need to help us in all this. There are some people, some members of the Council that support this type of business.

We would like to know who they are, to be able to bring all the documentation and information that we have, so that we don't have to be closed, because it's very profound this situation. It's not just being able to be able to take a vendedor, this goes beyond that. okay, nosotros queremos que se haga conforme a la ley todo, nosotros no somos racistas, somos de la misma raza, somos hispanos, mexicanos, nosotros queremos solamente que se haga una competencia legal para los dueños de restaurantes, los dueños de food trucks y todos los que pagamos impuestos. Gracias.

Good evening to all Mayor Mezcoa, City Council members. Thank you Councilmember Becerra for bringing this topic to the table to bring it forth thank you on behalf of all the legal vendors in and legal food vendors in Santa Ana every day there are more businesses coming popping up every day we see one or two businesses that are coming in and they're just laughing at the authorities and they don't care the health department the city they're doing what they can, but it's not enough. Maybe if we cannot punish them or fine them because they're selling on the sidewalk,

maybe the fact that they're selling bad or contaminated food that's affecting people, maybe we can do something with that venue or through that way. So we don't want people to just, like the gentleman said before, to come here and do whatever they want. We want people who are here to pay taxes, just like we are, to get our permits. We need your help, and we need your help. And it's not an issue of just one vendor here and there that we want to get out. It's much more than that.

It's a lot of them, and we need things to be lawful, to be done right. It's not a matter of us being racist. We're the same race. We're Hispanic. We're Mexicans. and we just want everything to be done legal with legal competition for all.

Thank you, Cesar. Nancy Tarín, and then followed by Irma Jaregui, followed by Arturo Escobar.

Buenas noches a todos. Mi nombre es Nancy Tarín. Estoy ante ustedes para presentar la petición parecida a la que están hablando mis compañeros anteriormente, acerca del problema de los vendedores ambulantes en las banquetas de nuestra ciudad. I'm talking about business owners, my husband and I, my husband, Tony Altarín, and I have been in this city with our business Taqueria Los Grandes for more than 30 years. We have contributed economically to this city, we have paid our taxes, we have paid our insurance, we have provided employment for many people during this time.

and it seems unjust to be the way these other people are doing business in Santa Ana. We want to hear you please, how is this affected this economic, because the clients that these people have are potential clients our own. So, that is one of the things. The other is that we also are residents of Santa Ana, we want a beautiful city, clean, and we contribute to that also with our impuestos and our work. So, we would like to ask you to do everything possible

because our city looks like the best cities of the United States. We know that our culture has certain customs, but our customs can remain in our country. Venimos a este país voluntariamente y debemos adaptarnos a las reglas que nos requiere este país. Gracias.

Gracias. Irma?

As Irma is coming up, can Arturo Escobar please get in line, followed by Ignacio Ortega. Come on up, Irma. Yeah, you're speaking.

Good evening. My name is, good evening to all. My name is Nancy Tarrin. I'm here to ask for something similar as we are talking about regarding the vendors on the sidewalks. I'm a business owner with my husband, Otoniel Tarrin. We are owners of Taqueria Los Grandes for over 30 years. And we contribute to the city. We pay our taxes. We pay insurance. We employ a lot of people throughout all these years. And it's not fair that these people are coming in to take away our business in Santa Ana. So please, I'm asking that you listen to this issue that is affecting us economically and monetarily.

And the issue is that also their clients are our potential clients. We are not only business owners, we are also residents of Santa Ana. And we want our city to be clean, to be a beautiful city. and we're asking you to do all you can so that we can have a city that is one of the, like the best cities in the U.S. And we are working here for, we are coming from other countries. We bring our customs sometimes, but sometimes other customs have to stay there because we are here in this country voluntarily, and we must follow all the laws. Thank you.

Hello, good evening, Mayor, the council members. a pleasure to see all of you again as everybody has spoken uh there has been um a proliferation of of the street vendors and i'm always thinking of ideas right i do a prod free enterprise no question about it i'm a self-employed person but consider that if we could do a model to support those mom-and-pop shops that want to start and have designated areas zoned for food vendors and trucks too possibly where they can have support from the health department to how to do things properly from

the city how to deal with fees because these are people trying to start their business so if they have support from and give priority to Santa and a residence so they can also pay their employees learn how to deal with taxes, get maybe some services from the community college, and support them in the right way, but in designated areas only, no streets, period, and have something where you can have a place where we can have a true golden city with support for small businesses, so that way we could have a more successful and truly golden city. Thank you. Thank you.

Arturo Escobar.

Ignacio Ortega, Maria Sanchez followed by Tim Rush.

Hello, good evening council members and Mayor MSYC once again here as when we were we met at the board school board so I'm here to speak on behalf of this issue with the street vendors it is impacting our wonderful city and I believe that again like the previous person said a designated area ways to work with them we're spending all this money for the city to beautify Main Street to do the streetcar down there Santa Boulevard for them to be filled up with street vendors then there's no purpose in beautifying your city if it's just going to be overtaken by street vendors I have nothing against street

vendors but then again we all need to follow those rules they're about the establishments pay their taxes the establishment had built an establishment doing the right way doing the right things following those rules why do people need to come maybe they're from outside the city but why do people come thinking that they can just walk all over those rules and there's no punishment there's no consequence to the action they're taking I believe that everyone should have a consequence of the action they're taking and they when they take that stance of being in the middle of a street or a sidewalk there

they're knowingly making that decision so then therefore there's a consequence we should not be allowing for our city to continue to be a dumping ground we've been a dumping ground from south counties to our cities for homeless they drive them down here they keep them here why do we continue being a dumping and i'm tired of my city to be continuing to be a dumping ground for other counties for other cities i want that to stop and continue beautifying our city for us who live here us the residents so I please ask you guys to work on something for us as residents to feel proud we have so many issues we have homelessness we have

mental health there's so many things out there but this is another issue that's brought upon you guys that I do come to you guys to for a solution I'm willing to work with any committee to help out in any way possible but I want my city to continue to be beautified, not a thumbing ground.

Thank you. Tim Rush.

Charles Objactis. I know I said that wrong. I apologize. Charles.

Followed by Daniel Perez, if you can please also get behind.

Charles, please. followed by Araceli Gonzalez.

Good evening. My name is Charles Jacksus.

And I'm here to bring a very important matter for our family to your attention. My parents' restaurant and family business, El Tapatio Grill, located at 3700 West Warner Avenue, is currently being destroyed by the new owners who just purchased the property last year. Ever since new owners bought the property, they have done so much to destroy and make our business suffer. They have also made many attempts over the last year to try and kick them out, and in very sneaky ways. But I am happy to say tonight that they have failed thus far. And only because we had to hire a real estate attorney to protect us, who is present here tonight.

Also present here is my father, J. Victor Ibarra. And as you can imagine, it has gotten very expensive for us, and it's just horrible what these new landlords are doing. I'll give you an example of how these people operate. They recently decided to start demoing the entire foundation of the property, concrete, dirt, landscape, you know, you name it, and all without providing us any notice. Bulldozers, tractor trailers, and dirt all over the place, blowing all over our property. They do this during business hours, and it's been interrupting business for quite some time now.

We have customers and employees constantly complaining about having to blow or breathe in dirt. We also do special events such as weddings on site and we have a lot of them upset with us as well. We have made multiple attempts to contact code enforcement by email, leaving voicemails and still haven't gotten any response from them. This is how, this is not how we expected the process would be when we finally felt the need to reach out to code enforcement and get them involved. We are being ignored and we are asking for your help. My parents have been there for more than two decades, employing many, many people over the years.

And so you can only imagine that my family's and my others, and the others' livelihood is currently at stake right now. Thank you.

Thank you.

Daniel Perez?

Daniel Perez?

Araceli Gonzalez? Are you Daniel Perez? Yes. Okay, thank you.

Hello, good evening. My name is Daniel Perez, and I want to thank Councilmember Vacerra for bringing this up to the table. And I want to talk about subject number 32. It is about the legal stance here in our city, Santa Ana.

I was born in Mexico, Los Moches, Mexico, and I came here in 2005. I am now a DACA recipient. I follow every rule that is here, the law, by the way it's written. And it's very unfair for us that us, we're now, me and my mom are now business owners. We've been business owners in 2013. We opened our own lunch truck. And we have followed every rules. We played every tax that you guys, you know, everything. And I want to talk to you guys about some of the rules that you guys have in your site here. It's written in your site. I want to say some of it and I want you guys to understand where we come from.

Things that are permitted for the people that sell food, you cannot have additional lights. You would have to be bending within 200 feet from a school park, community center, or playground, bending within 50 feet of a market on a mark crosswalk in intersection, bending that obstructs or creates hazards, restocking in public right away, electrical power for public and private property, items in public right away, bending where speed limit is 35 miles per hour or greater, no tables and chairs. These are all rules that every single day

these illegal taco stands are violating every single day. We pay our taxes, we pay our permits, we follow the law and it's very unfair for us. Thank you.

Thank you. And Sally Gonzalez.

I would like to thank everyone for the support of the staff,

and I would like to thank everyone for the support of the staff. And that's a small part of the staff that represents the city of Santana, that we have the same concern, that we are going to end the income for the rest of us, that we all depend on our business, because we have families that we have to feed, We have to pay our houses, our children, and that's a big concern. And this is what is happening since we have a lot of time, and many of our restaurants,

and lunches, we are fighting with the day-to-day because we have no more money. We ask them to find the way to find the way to make a solution for anyone, to make a way to solve this situation. Because we depend on the income of our business. We need to continue on. And everything is a whole and a chain.

If we have good business and we are still paying taxes, we are still paying insurance, we are still paying employees. And all this is going to work and the city is still working. But if there is no control with the ambulance customers,

the city of Santana will end. Thank you.

Thank you.

Alex, there was no last name, I apologize. Alex?

Good evening to all. I apologize. Good evening to all. I am here because I also had a business in Santa Ana and we're here, we're a group, a big group of people. I ask you all to stand, and you saw that. And we're all here, people. This group of people is a small representation of the greater group that is in Santa Ana that is concerned by this. We are not getting enough money from our businesses to survive. We depend on our businesses' income to feed our families, to pay for our homes, to pay for our kids' studies and all the expenses. So this is a big concern that's been going on for a long time.

Our friends, the restaurant owners and the lunch truck owners are having very difficult times. They're not getting enough money to pay for all of our expenses. So please find a way, do something, implement some rules or do something to solve this situation. We depend on the income from our businesses to support our families, and this is all a chain. If we do well, then we pay our taxes, then we pay our insurance, we pay our employees, and the city wins, and the city works best. And if not, then if you don't control the street vendors, then the city of Santa Ana will go down.

Thank you, Cesar.

Alex?

Hi. Hi. First of all, well we are here just for all the street vendors. You guys already know they don't pay taxes, they don't do a lot of things, but three of the most important things that a lot of the people that was here didn't say was just, first of all, they don't have no health department at all. So for I recall, you cannot sell anything if you don't have a health department, at least food. So it looks like no one is actually paying attention to that. So if they don't have a health department, how they can sell food in Santana? That's one thing.

Number two, they don't have a license to sell in Santana. Number three, they don't even have a food handler. So how are they gonna cook or handle food if they don't have these three things. I know it might be our own fault, because we still go and buy stuff from them. But the thing is just, the question that I'm going to ask you is just, how can these people selling food in your city

without health department or to licenses. I'm here on a personal matter because my mom is 75 years old. She cannot walk. And one day I just decided to take on her wheelchair around the block. And guess what? I wasn't able to actually do it. So why? Because there on the sidewalk, it's a lot of street vendors.

So I don't think this is fair. So the only thing I'm asking you, we've been going through this for the past two years and a half. I know you weren't here. I know you weren't here. I know it's a lot on your hands.

Thank you speaker, your time is up.

Just think about it. Thank you.

Thank you.

Yarsi, again I apologize, Yarsi. Yara Lee?

Otaku Spiolin. Otaku Spiolin. Did I say that wrong? Okay, next one, Maria Garcia.

After Maria Garcia, can I have Jose Luis Sandoval waiting, please?

Buenas noches. Buenas noches a todos. En la Junta anterior yo expuse mi caso y hoy vengo otra vez a recordarles y a pedirles su ayuda para que hagamos algo sobre esta invasión que se ha hecho en la ciudad. and the purpose of all this is to make us, as businesses of businesses, we can continue to employ our own people within our city, and continue to move forward, continue to make a effort to recover the city.

I had to say my case earlier. For me it was very sad and very lamentable having had to close my food truck to make another alternative.

I had to say, I had spoken to my son about the rules that are in the city and he said, Now, I ask myself how to tell the children that we have to comply with the rules when the city is not being fulfilled.

I just ask that I ask that they are listening to us, that they have a good job, a good job, for the future of those children who are seeing the example of us as parents or of the authorities. It is the only thing I can say in this day, because it has been said much, it has been exposed much, and in reality I feel that they are just like words that lead the wind. So I want to emphasize that I am a reality of having closed my business for this problem

that is happening in the city. That's my sense. Thank you.

Good evening to all. I was here at the last meeting and I gave you my story and I'm here to remind you of that and ask you for your help regarding this invasion that we are suffering in our city. And this is very sad that many business owners are suffering and we have to, this is a very big problem. It's sad that I had to close my food truck, close my business after, because of this situation. and I told you that I spoke to my son about the rules that are changing.

And my question is, how can we tell the children to follow the rules if the city is not following the rules? So I'm here asking you to listen to our plea and to do something because the kids are seeing the example that the city is giving. And I'm feeling that we are here and we're not doing it much. These are words in the wind. So, again, I tell you the story, my personal story that I had to suffer and go through because I had to close my business because of this issue. Thank you.

Thank you. Guillermo Elizalde, please.

Hi. Good to all of you. My name is Guillermo Elizalde. I'm the owner of Sopran Toitos, a first-team from the college right on Bristol Street, 1702 North Bristol and you know I'm gonna touch subject on pretty much what everybody else a few people talk about it and it's just the fact that we have so many bands on the street and the thing that I don't ask myself we survived the pandemic and you know it was a hard time for all the family depend on the work that we provide and it is now becoming another headache with the vendors and I think the vendors are really killing us because they have no

limitations. I don't see them to have guidelines on how far from our business they can have their own business and can set it up every night. And they can offer so many items that I never thought they would. From now on, they have dessert, they have pretty much most of the things that we have in Armenia, they also have them available too. And I don't think it's fair for us, and it's not being fair for you know like i said the pandemic was a big headache and now we're going through this now i really uh i'm impressed how this how much is growing and as you're seeing everywhere

and i mean it's just that i'm on bristol street and they really affect my business and i see them everywhere on bristol street and i'm seeing everywhere else so i just you know this is my first time i speak here and i've really uh i'm in you know i hope something can be done and i like I said, on our family, there's four families, four marriages that work on our business, so we depend pretty much on what we do and what we produce every day. So we have to bring food to the table. And with these people blocking us, we can do that. I need your support, I need your help.

And like I said, we've been around for 27 years, and I want to stay in business for another 30 years. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I have five daughters and I have the same problem. I have a pleasure to have a woman here as president. Thank you. I have some faces in the networks. I'm proud of this city. I have 30 years of doing business in the city of Santana. And now, for the last two years, I've been seeing the problem that is happening by all the big cities of the big city, which is our city, my city. I have my city. 30 years of business, paying taxes is a concern, because I don't want to quit the rules,

just to follow the rules. My restaurant, my business, every three months, and I have to stay at the day, at the minute, because they don't want to be when they are going. And my question is, if I go to eat a taco from there from the banquet, where do you wash the hands, that no has to be a measure, the water, the thermometer, where they come and they revise them in their restaurant. So, I really want, all pare, like they are in my land, all pare, or all, that is here my land.

So, I don't have to pay my concern, but I have many bills to pay. And then if we're all together, we're going to go to the hands of the hands. But I don't know, I don't know if I'm going to have a bill for my bills. Why? Because they put two, together to my big business, that if they're going to be the rules, I'm going to be the best. because if we want to be here in this great country, in my country, we have to follow the rules. Thank you very much. It's a pleasure to hear us and to give us an opportunity.

We have almost a year going to all the offices. Thank you.

Thank you.

Good evening. I'm here. Mayor Amesqua. It's a pleasure to see you again. I have five daughters myself, and it's great to see you as a woman, as a mayor here in the city. And I see some of your faces, the rest of the people up there, on social media. I've been a business owner in Santa Ana for over 30 years. And for the last two years, I've been going through this problem with the sidewalk vendors in this city, in my city. It's my city as well. And for the last 30 years, I've paid my taxes, and it's now concerning.

Concerning because I don't want these people to go away. I just want them to follow the rules. And the businesses, in my business, every three months, I get the health department's visit. and they come unannounced. I have to follow the rules every day because I don't know when they're coming. I have a question about these tacos. In the sidewalk, where are they washing their hands? Where is their temperature control? They have to have the temperature control for what they're doing and their food and everything else. Everybody needs to be equal, as they say in my town. I'm sorry to bring this concern, but I have bills to pay,

and everybody needs to be equal. It's a concern because I'm not getting enough money to pay my bills, and these people are next to my business. If they're next to my business and following the rules, that's fine, but we all must be equal. Thank you for listening, and this has been going on for over a year.

Thank you. Jaime Flores, followed by Desi Reyes.

Good evening.

The police, every time they saw a vendedor, the removed and went and went. Now, what happened? Where did this company of ambulances come from? This happened when the pandemic came, the governor gave permission to take the restaurant to take their tables. What happened? that they took it, but they took it, they took it, they took it, they took it, they could also take it. Now, they can't take it away. It's a company, I don't know how it's been, it's very strong,

because they have taken it 16, 17 times the food, and they still have it in the pie.

I live here, I have a business, and I think we're going to this country to progress, not to destroy. If we have our bad intentions to do this, I think that is why we are in these instances. We are with laws where we pay our taxes, we pay our employees, and we don't have the employees any fear to get to salubrity, or the police that we get to review, because we are in the law. I think that they all said, it's a thing that you should have to take care of the issue and put their hopes up to get out of the best.

We don't want to have any fight with anyone, because this you have to solve, not us. Thank you.

Good evening to all. Good evening Mayor, City Council. Good evening to all this. Everything has been said. it's just sad to hear what's been going on I've been in the city for over 40 years and right now this is just chaos and for years ago when there was a street vendor the police came and they kicked him out and that was it but now I don't know what happened this I think what happened is this company or big company or corporation is coming and they came from the pandemic and the

governor because of the pandemic allowed food to be sold and served outside and now you cannot take them away so i don't know if it's a very strong company or what but they take away their food or throw away their food 16 17 times and they're still at it so i'm here to ask you to do something to do something we're here in this country to build not to destroy we need to follow the laws We need to pay our taxes. We need to pay our employees. And we are not afraid. If the health department comes, it's fine. The police comes, it's fine, because we're following the rules. So please do something. We don't want to fight with anybody.

So please, you need to solve this. Thank you.

Thank you. Desi?

Okay, good evening, Mayor, City Council members. Many years ago, I live in a street that there's no parking between midnight and 6. And one evening, I forgot and left my car parked blocked blocking the sidewalk. Somebody called me, and guess what, I got a ticket because I was blocking the sidewalk. What is the difference between the vendors blocking a sidewalk, not getting a ticket for violating the rules of ADA, American Disability Act, you can't, you know, you're in a vehicle, us getting a ticket for blocking a sidewalk. I don't know if these people are getting cited for blocking site work but I think they should get

cited if it's the same rule logically I'm in support of 32 I see these people all the time especially on 17th Street by the Albertson store blocking right there at the corner all the time so the main reason I'm here also it's because I wanted to mention these businesses Social Security offices Santa Ana Zoo Holiday Inn Express, Jack in the Box, Islamic Center of Santa Ana, DMV, Avidos and Laranchitos. These are all destinations on 1st Street, East 1st Street. And as you know, East 1st Street has a problem of narcotics. It's not homeless,

it's narcotics. That needs to be addressed. I know it's been addressed. Thank you, Councilmember Jesse Lopez for addressing the issue, but I think the City Manager and the Police Chief need to take a more harsh enforcement in that area. It's gotten a little better, I've noticed. I drove by there today, this evening, before I came here. It was pretty clean. But you know, you cross that bridge into Tustin, it's a whole different... it's like Disneyland. You cross into Disneyland, you come west into Santa Ana, it's a different story. So you got people coming from all over the county to these offices and the first thing they

see is this issue. That needs to be addressed. Thank you.

Paul Simon followed by Kate Hirsch followed by Christy Ward.

Madam Mayor, honorable council members, good evening. My name is Paul Simons with Kurt Pringle and Associates. We work with folks all over the county to work through challenges with local government. Tonight, I'm here with my client, Turner Capital, and share ourselves. Our team has been working with the city for nearly a year on a project that would be a $9 million real estate purchase, an investment of more than $25 million into the Santa Ana community, and the delivery of more than 120 high-paying jobs. And that's not to speak of all the medical, dental, and vision services they'd be providing for any and all Santa Ana residents.

This effort was derailed after the city council passed an urgency ordinance December 20th, which would require any medical office operated by a nonprofit or philanthropic entity in the professional zone to secure a conditional use permit. Previously, the professional zone permitted medical and dental offices by right. There had been a lot of dialogue with city staff throughout the last year working through this project. In fact, staff shared with us November 28th we could proceed. As we hired architects, finalized our plans, and readied for submission, the urgency ordinance was passed. We were never told this was happening.

We had been working with city staff in good faith for nearly a year. The issue is not a CUP, the issue is that the seller does not want to hold the property any longer, much less the amount of time it would take to secure a CUP. Had we known this was going to be the process, perhaps we would have made a different business decision.

During the first city council meeting of this year, this body passed the first reading of its zoning ordinance, which is up for second reading tonight. It further codifies the urgency ordinance from December. We are respectfully requesting you pull item number 6 from consent calendar and reopen the public hearing to strike section 1641-343.5p. We ask that you do so for the betterment of the entire community. Thank you so much, Mayor and Council members.

Thank you. Kate Hirsch.

Hello, my name's Kate Hirsch and I'm here from Turner Impact Capital. I'm requesting that the council pull item number 6 from the consent agenda and reopen the public hearing to discuss how this ordinance affects a project that we're working on in the city of Santa Ana. We opened escrow on the office building at 2670 North Main Street in Santa Ana last March for a new facility for Share Ourselves. After receiving internal approvals for this $30 million plus project, we immediately engaged city staff to navigate the approvals process to locate SOS at this site. That's what brings us here today.

We've been working in good faith with the city for the last 10 months and have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on vetting this property. We have gone through multiple application processes. First submitting a minor exception in August, only to be denied in October without any interim correspondence. then submitting a major remodel application in December after multiple coordination meetings with city staff, only to be told that this process no longer applies to us and our project now requires a CUP for approvals. The passage of the urgency ordinance 2022-07 in December and this ordinance 2022-03 puts

us back at square one with our city approvals. The property seller is not willing to extend our escrow for the time required to secure conditional use permit. So if in fact our project is required to get a CUP, unfortunately it's no longer a viable project for us due to timing. We have issue with the language in the ordinance and how it affects strong operators like SOS from operating in Santa Ana. We also have issue with the fact that this ordinance can come into effect and jeopardize a project that we've been working with the city on for the last 10 months.

So we respectfully ask that Council reconsider the language in the ordinance and its impact on strong projects like ours. Thank you.

Thank you. Christy Ward.

Followed by Rosario Galeas.

Good evening, Mayor and City Council members and staff. My name is Christy Ward, and I am the Chief Executive Officer of Share Ourselves, which is a community health center that is celebrating 53 years of operation in Orange County. We currently operate seven clinics across the county and have been in Santa Ana for the last 14 years on the El Sol Academy campus on Broadway. I'm here this evening to respectfully ask the City Council to pull item 6 off the consent calendar and reopen the public hearing for the proposed zoning ordinance amendment that is slated for second reading and approval today.

I ask specifically that the City Council reconsider the definition of a medical office as it relates to zoning to find language that better defines when a CUP would be needed for medical offices based on the services that medical organizations plans to provide rather than how an organization is funded. To point out the language that I'm referencing, the proposed zoning ordinance amendment states specifically quote medical offices operated by government, government subsidized, not-for-profit, or philanthropic entities unquote will require a higher level of scrutiny through a conditional use permit solely

because of the way that they are funded. As the CEO of Share Ourselves I believe this proposed definition of medical office to be inequitable and flawed by unnecessary placing of bird placing a burden of additional scrutiny and cost organizations like share ourselves without regard to the services or level of quality that the organization provides we are further concerned that the language may be precedent setting for similar language to be proposed in other zoned areas across the city moving forward so we again ask for the item to be pulled so that we can provide letters and our comments during an open

process. So I appreciate your time this evening. Thank you. Thank you. Rosario.

Good evening, Mayor, Councilmembers, and city staff. My name is Rosario Chariz-Galeas. I live, work, and I'm a city of Santa Ana, and I work in a community-based organization here in the city for more than 16 years, first as a community health worker or promotora and now as a program coordinator for the Children and Youth Engagement Department. So today I'm here to talk about my personal story and the relationship with Share Ourselves or SOS organization and to talk about the negative impact that the proposed zoning ordinance will have in our community. My parents and I are

patients of their share ourselves and my mom and dad have received services for more than 10 years with this organization and back in 2010 my mom health complications due to diabetes were began to be more serious and at that time she didn't have health insurance and I was struggling to cover the medical expenses out of pocket and it's when then I came across this organization so SOS provided high quality health and dental care and medication at no cost for my mom and two years later I was we were fortunate to

have my parents qualify for health insurance and we decided to stay with share ourselves because we really liked the the quality of care that my parents receive and how they treated them so I was super super happy to for share ourselves to be in my life. So in 2017 I was nominated to be a board member and representing the community and today I'm here because when in that a board meeting they mentioned that we want to expand the services in Santa Ana and I was super happy and we never thought that something so positive expanding our services in the city will be so difficult. So today I'm asking you to

please making sure that if the ordinance proceed as it is will impact the community that here in Santa Ana that needed it the most thank you thank you

Will Klaat followed by Lisa Salisbury please

Madam Mayor council members my name is Will Klaatty I'm the board chair of SHARE OURSELVES. AND I, TOO, AM HERE TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE THE AMENDMENT CONCERNING MEDICAL, GOVERNMENT-SUBSIDIZED MEDICAL CENTERS OFF THE CALENDAR AND TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THERE ARE SO MANY ISSUES WITH THIS ORDINANCE. THERE'S NO WAY I COULD ADDRESS THEM IN TWO MINUTES. WE'VE SUBMITTED WRITTEN COMMENTS WHICH MORE FULLY EXPRESS THE CONCERNS. WE WOULD ASK THAT those be placed in the public record, but I do want to share one very important problem with the ordinance.

If this ordinance goes into effect, the city will lose millions of dollars each year in federal funding that will otherwise go to community health centers to care for the health needs of your citizens. I'm going to repeat that. If this ordinance goes into effect, you will lose millions of dollars every year in funding that will otherwise go to care for the needs of your citizens.

Now I'm sure that that is a surprise to you because you had no intention of doing that. This is a reason why this ordinance needs to go back to a first reading. How could something like that happen? Well, the reason it happened is that this ordinance didn't follow the path of the other ordinances included in the amendment. It was asserted at the 11th hour. In fact, it wasn't even noticed in the public commission hearing on December 12th because it got stuck in too late. So there was no opportunity for public comment before the Planning Commission.

Eight days later, it gets bundled up.

Thank you, Speaker. Your time is up.

Thank you.

Lisa Salisbury, followed by Vanessa Serda.

Vanessa, if you can please come and wait up here on the slide, followed by Albert Castillo. Lisa Salisbury.

Thank you. Good evening. I'm Lisa Salisbury. Thank you for serving your community. And I do my share to serve our community by being a broker, lawyer, litigator. And my job is to help businesses succeed. And I'm trying desperately to do that, especially here in Santa Ana, with two minority-owned businesses that are being plagued by a serious problem that I hope we can work together to solve. You heard from Mr. Jacks just earlier. The property at issue is 3700 West Warner Avenue here in Santa Ana. It's a two-acre industrial parcel.

However, it has been thriving over the last two or three decades because my client, family-owned, have operated successfully El Tapatio Grill. The adjoining tenant is, was, Loham, doing meat production here in Santa Ana successfully. Together, they have facilitated jobs for about 30 people, and that's our concern. What we will do is continue to work with the city, but as Mr. Jacks just said, it has a price tag for us to call code enforcement and to understand why we don't have communication.

So that we're on the same page, Loham submitted work order 1303181 early December 2022, four months ago. El Tapatio Grille submitted to code enforcement work order 1300547 in early December. The two-acre parcel, 75% of it has been demoed. Right on down to the dirt. We have removal of asphalt, we have removal of concrete, landscaping, etc. Where is the oil going? Was it properly disposed of? Why is there no permit for such a significant removal of earth here in our city? Code enforcement, I need you.

YOU, CALL ME, LISA SALSBURY, YOU KNOW ME, I HAVE CALLED YOU. THAT AND FURTHERMORE, I PERSONALLY WAS TOLD BY THE BUYER THEY WILL NOT GET CITY PERMITS. I THOUGHT THEY WERE JOKING.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. VENESSA SERDOS, PLEASE. FOLLOWED BY ALBER CASTILLO.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, AND GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO I'M HERE ON A NON-ITEM AGENDA. it's regarding the historic Cypress fire station located on 625 South Cypress Street right on Bishop in Cypress right across from the Dollar Tree store. The community would like to see a restored building for the community use as a history and youth center with high advanced technology center and a safe heaven space where youth can have access from Monday through Friday including weekends where every youth is allowed and it's not in a

waiting list we are aware that a PAL center is in the mist I believe that a PAL center will not be a great fit for this community since this will be the second one in the same Pacific Pacific Park community SAPD did a presentation that a PAL center will be an ideal because the presence of police officers will keep the drug users away from the community and it will make it safer. But if we are transparent, that particular area is known for their counterfeit activity for decades

here in the city of Santa Ana. Santa Ana has so much beauty to offer. We just need to water it with the right amount of water. Thank you.

have a good night thank you albert castillo followed by jose hernandez jose

just want to say i love those street tacos they're they're the best you know so i hope you figure something out with that situation i'm here to talk about item five just destabilizing the or just destabilizing the downtown inc in 2006 there was a plan in the logan lacy and downtown area to replace homes and businesses with luxury homes that that's santana residents could not

afford. That plan was called the Renaissance Plan. Displace us and replace us. In 2009, Downtown Inc. was formed along with the PBID. They were mostly outsiders who received tax dollars from small businesses who then and today did not know where that money was going to. many Latino businesses were getting displaced and replaced. They did not value our culture,

our art, or our businesses. We as residents, small business owners, community activists, Protege Santana and Chicanos Unidos had a long campaign against these unjust and racist acts by Downtown Inc. But we know it doesn't end here today. La lucha sigue hasta la victoria siempre. Thank you.

Jose Hernandez? He left. Veronica? Renacio Chavez? Renacio Chavez?

The purpose of my visit to this Junta is to congratulate the first woman alcaldesa in this beautiful city of Santa Ana and also to say that with her triumph in the past election, she also acquired a great responsibility. To solve the great problems that we currently face in our city. For example, the lack of security that enfrent the population, the indigencia, the problems with the collection of garbage by the new company that they contracted, and now the new, the corridor of the main.

Maine. La calle Maine se ha convertido en una trampa que podría ser mortal para visitantes y personas de la tercera edad. Desde que se colocaron esos maceteros han habido decenas de accidentes, algunos tan fuertes que poco ha faltado para que terminen en muerte. Sin embargo, señora alcaldesa, leí su boletín y le digo que va a ser más falta que regalar mil juguetes in the festival of tamales.

And if in the future you will have a coffee with the leaders, please listen to them. Those leaders know exactly what needs the city of Santana to that city be a vanguard as you say.

And together we can meet the great challenges that are going to this city and seek a solution

Thank you.

a traer problemas. Sin embargo, esas reuniones solo las usan para presentar proyectos, no para

preguntarle a la gente lo que necesita. Señor, por favor, termino su tiempo. Gracias. Muchísimas gracias.

Voy a tener que venir de nuevo. Gracias.

The purpose of me being here is, first of all, to congratulate you as the first female mayor in Santa Ana. Your success at the last election gives you not only a success, but also gives you great responsibility, which is to solve the great problems that we have in our city, which include the lack of safety, homelessness, the trash collection problems with a new company, and now the new problem with the Main Street Corridor, which is almost a deathly trap to visitors and possibly the elderly.

There are dozens of accidents that happen often, some of them almost deathly or fatal. So in your bulletin, you need to do more than just what you say in your bulletin, more than just giving a thousand toys at the Tamale Festival. You need to do more than that. And when you have coffee with the community leaders, listen to them, because they know what the city needs to succeed. So we need to find solutions and innovative solutions to all these problems.

and I congratulate you on bringing money from the federal and state funds for Santa Ana infrastructure that is good but when I went to the meeting when we had the meeting for the main street project with a city with Lacey neighbors and I realized that these meetings are only to present their problem other projects and not to listen to the people so if I don't have enough time I guess

I have to come back thank you I'm gonna take things a little out of order if the council will allow me to we've had commissioners or or community members that have been waiting to be sworn in again thank you for all the public comments we're gonna ask those that are waiting online if they give us a few minutes please is that okay does that work with my council members up here Perfect. Great, thank you. Items 7, 8, and 9. Madam Clerk, are the appointed members present to administer the oath of office? We'll do the mayor's commissioners. They were approved at the last council meeting. If they can please be called and they can come up.

And before you do that, the other item is... Item 7 is appointing Isabel Guerra for the Youth Commission. Item 8 is appointing the boards and commissioners nominated by Councilmember Vasquez. And Item 9 is appointing Jennifer Oliva nominated by Councilmember Penalosa. Can you do a roll call if there's any objections?

David PenalozaItem 3

Mayor Amesqua, I'll make a motion to approve Items 7 through 9.

Thank you. Is there a second?

I second.

Thank you, Councilmember Nzai. We're going to do a roll call, ma'am.

Mayor, can I please confirm that we don't have anybody online wanting to speak on the appointments?

We do not.

The Zoom call is...

Go ahead. You can confirm.

Any speakers on Zoom, if you would like to speak on items 7, 8, or 9, please raise your hands now.

Seeing none, we can proceed.

There's a first and a second. Do a roll call for a vote. and then we'll proceed to swear in the commissioners, and then we'll go back to the regular agenda.

Council Member Becerra?

Council Member Hernandez?

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 3

Yes.

Council Member Peñalosa? Yes. Council Member Fan? Yes. Council Member Vasquez? Yes. Mayor Potem-Lopez? Mayor Amescua? Yes. Item passes 4-0 with two absents.

Great, thank you. You can call up the ones that are my appointees please. Mayor. Followed by Councilmember Vasquez.

David PenalozaItem 3

Mayor, just for clarification, Norma, you said 5, right?

There's 5.

David PenalozaItem 3

There's 5.

5-0 with two absents. Yes, it's 5-0. 5 with two. Okay. Okay, so we'll do the mayor's, then do Councilman Vasquez's, then Councilmember Peña-Losa.

David PenalozaItem 3

Madam Mayor, my commissioner will be sworn in at the first planning commission meeting.

Perfect, all right. If I can please have Dr. Suzy Lopez Guerra, Celica Diaz, Ana, Laura Padilla, Mario Alvarado, Irma, Jairaghi, Ernie Gomez, Chris Leo, Timothy Johnson, and Isabella Guerra, if you can please Please come up.

I will support and defend the Constitution of the State of California.

against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear it through faith and allegiance

to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California, that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations,

or purpose of evasion, that I will well and be able to discharge the duties upon my father. Thank you.

Thank you.

If present, can I please have Councilmember Vasquez's appointees, Jose Hernandez, Maria Zacarias Torres, Janelle Hardy, Gabriella Hernandez Castillo, Manuel Escamilla, Ylyn Jaimes, please come up.

Thank you.

And the Constitution of the State of California. Against all enemies.

Against all enemies. Foreign and defensive.

Constitution of the United States.

And the Constitution of the State of California.

that I take this obligation without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion

that I will well and faithfully discharge

the duties upon which I have upon which I have Thank you.

Thank you.

Madam Kirk, if you can see if there's any callers on that wish to speak.

Yes, we have six speakers. Six speakers? Yes. Two minutes, please.

Speakers on the queue may provide their comments on agenda or non-agenda items within the city's jurisdiction. When unmuted, please announce your name, ward, or neighborhood that you reside in within the City of Santa Ana for the record. Before unmuting the callers, I would like to provide a summary of the emails we received, comments we received via email. We have for item 22, the food distribution programs. We received an email in support of the item. item 32 the unsafe and then permitted sidewalk food vending as of 4 p.m. we

had received 14 emails non-agenda items once an Anna resident in opposition of the recall and once an Anna resident in support of Orange County Power Authority energy program

Zoom ID, Roxana, please select the microphone icon to unmute from your device and proceed with your comment. You have two minutes to speak.

Good evening, City Council members, Mayor Amesqua. You are an inspiration to every little girl like my daughter who in the future can aspire you to be like you. I will read my letter that I submitted to the members. This is for item number 32. I'm a resident of the city of Santana who are number five. I would like to express my disapproval and concern about the illegal street tackle stands that keep appearing on a daily basis around the city of Santana, California. My quality of life is being placed in danger as I'm unable to take a walk around my neighborhood. The tackle stands are taking over the sidewalks preventing citizens like

me from taking a walk around my neighborhood. In addition, it is unsanitary as the taku stands do not have the proper food and health measures as the ones that are restaurant and food trucks have. Also, the taku stands tend to leave food waste and plastic around the sidewalks and the streets. The food waste not only attracts rodents, but also unsafer children that walk around this area. If we take a look at this from that economic perspective, it is taking away business from legal locations that pay taxes, rent and food and health licenses fee. If this issue continues,

then the city of Santana will soon become inundated with many more and all sidewalks around the city will be blocked. Perhaps setting a designated area for this type of food sale could help those citizens that are trying to sell their product. I urge you as elected city officials to please remove this illegal tackle stance from the city of Santana. Other cities, Newport Beach, Irvine Costa Mesa do not allow this why does my city allow for this thank you

caller whose phone number ends in 8477 please dial star six from your phone and proceed with your comment you have two minutes to speak

good evening this is Dale Helbig Ward 3 a couple things yesterday the pre-application for legacy square came out and uh it will be effective until february 17th so i look forward to the process and screening and hopefully that doesn't take long to accept the applications another item is the 55 freeway expansion project i'm hoping that we have someone from santa anna actively involved in that project such that we don't end up with just solid sound walls that are

essentially terrible looking for the the community it is the border of the east side so hopefully uh and ann is working with the caltrans on that last item is item 32 everybody's talked about it and i agree that it's gotten out of control uh code enforcement health department have an ongoing task of trying to enforce these unpermitted and potentially unsafe conditions of the sidewalk food vendors. You as city council need to help them out by establishing guidelines or essentially an ordinance to curtail this.

You've heard last month that people were upset about it, ruining their businesses or impacting their businesses, they should say. and so hopefully we can do something to help them out. You know, they've been doing the right thing for so long. We've got through COVID now they're dealing with this. So please help them out. And I look forward to an open discussion on item 32 later on tonight. Thank you.

Zoom ID, Loncherita, please select the microphone icon to unmute from your device and proceed with your comment. You have two minutes to speak.

Hello. Oh, good evening. Um, council members and, uh, fellow business owners. I'm, uh, Armando Nunez, uh, resident of ward five, and, uh, I'm just here to talk about item number 32 on the agenda. Um, and, uh, basically like all the other people have said or mentioned, it has gotten just out of hand. And I'm here speaking on behalf of all the other business owners that are scared to speak up about the topic in fear of retaliation because I know I've been very vocal about it in my community, and I've gotten a lot of hate over it.

But it shouldn't be that way because, you know, my business is still – I've only been in business three years, but I pay my taxes, and I abide by other local health rules. and it's unfair for these people to come out from out of the city and basically come destroy our street.

But that's it, thank you for hearing me out.

Zoom ID, John Ramirez, please select the microphone icon to unmute from your device and proceed with your comment. You have two minutes to speak.

John. Yes, we can hear you. Yes, we can hear you.

Good evening, Mayor, City Council and staff. My name is John Ramirez and I'm a resident of Ward 2 and have lived in the city for over 40 years. I'd like to comment on item 32 regarding the unsafe and unpermitted sidewalk vendors. I encourage the council to support a draft stating the city's opposition to unsafe and unpermitted sidewalk food vending. and also to prioritize the enforcement of existing regulations related to sidewalk vendors. I believe these out-of-town, unpermitted sidewalk vendors are taking advantage of the laws to line their pockets for corporations, and it is unfair that they get to conduct their business daily,

while other hardworking vendors from our city have to adhere to the laws, rules, and obtain permits and go through inspections, unlike these pop-up vendors lining our sidewalks. Again, it is simply not fair to legitimate vendors in our city and you as our city council need to recognize and do something about that. It is only a matter of time before something really bad will occur from these unpermitted vendors being allowed to operate. Do not wait until the bad happens before you all decide to get on board with condemning them and taking action. Be proactive and do something about it now. Thank you, Mayor, Council members and staff.

Have a good evening.

this concludes my comment caller whose phone number ends in 4010 please dial star six from your phone and proceed with your comment you have two minutes to speak

hello can you hear me yes we can hear you hi mr mendes from word three um just kind of a general observation about tonight's call and you know it sounds like we have some job issues going on the city in terms of job development job preservation and um while these issues might be kind of isolated i think it kind of conveys a central theme that the council and staff have just simply got to do a better job of holding not honing in and trying to maximize the effort to to get more jobs and preserve more jobs here in the city uh because i'm just hearing and a lot of everything that's coming out today about job and economic opportunity.

Not to say we're not, we don't try to do good things. It just, for whatever reason, there seems to be a very strong theme about jobs, job preservation and economic development. So that's just an observation. I hope you can take it to heart. Along that line, item 15 to 16, we're back to our old auto purchases, significant. Again, there's probably about $4 million that is going out to other areas or other businesses outside the city. And from someone who really understands the car industry, I would just raise that purchase to be about an $8 to $10 million overall economic impact to the city.

Now, having said that, there seems to be a very good justification for number 16. They're kind of going through a massive purchasing agreement. And number 15, you know, who knows? we do have a local Chevy dealer putting all that aside here's some suggestions perhaps you can just up up the um uh local uh local uh points to uh for per for when they go out the purchasing to maybe 10 rather than five and by that it means somebody who's based in santa anna the other thing that i think is a very important value is to increase the city's vehicle rebate program from 500 to 750 so that thank you speaker your time is up

Hello? Your time is up. Zoom ID, Wilson Truong, please select the microphone icon from your device and proceed to speak. You have two minutes to speak. Great. Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you.

Good evening, Mayor and Councilmember. I'm here with the California Governor's Office of Emergency Services. My name is Wilson Truong. I wanted to talk to you all about earthquake early warning system we have in California and the importance of downloading the MyShake app. The MyShake app gives crucial seconds of warning before earthquake strikes to give time to drop, cover, and hold on. During the latest 6.4 earthquake in Hobo County and the 5.1 earthquake in San Jose, the MyShake app was extremely successful in the millions of people and gave warning to hundreds of seconds before earthquake strike. Recently just passed

the Northridge earthquake anniversary on January 17. And that was a 6.7. So I'm just here to make sure that you know, local cities are aware of this tool provided by California governor's office to make sure that they have seconds to prepare for the nearest earthquake. The app is free to download an iPhone Android and is available in Spanish. And I urge you all to share this information with your community. I'll also be sending an email to follow the City Council for any questions or a meeting on this resource and happy to talk to y'all. Thank you so much.

Mayor, that was our final speaker.

Perfect. Thank you very much. Council members at this time, please announce any items that you'll be abstaining from due to conflict. If there are any requests to pull an item from the consent calendar, we're going to go down now.

Councilman Hernandez, any items to pull?

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 3

I would like to see item 22 pulled.

And we are pulling item 32 as well. Councilmember Becerra?

Valerie AmezcuaItem 3

Thank you, Madam Mayor. I'd like to pull item 12, register a no vote on item 20, and when appropriate, make a brief comment on items 15 and 16.

Register a no vote on item 20, you said?

Valerie AmezcuaItem 3

Correct.

And you want to make a comment on 15 and 16?

Is that correct? Yes.

Thai Viet PhanItem 3

Councilmember Phan? I'd just like to announce my recusal from item number 13 as Home Depot is a client of my employer, Rutan and Tucker, and if that is pulled, I will leave the dais for that discussion. Thank you. Councilmember Vasquez?

Item 96.

Mayor Pro Tem Lopez.

Jessie LopezItem 3

10 and 22, please.

Sorry?

Jessie LopezItem 3

10 and 22.

10 and 22.

22. Perfect. Councilman Penalosa.

David PenalozaItem 3

Yes, Madam Mayor. I would like to pull item 20.

Perfect. and I'm going to pull 17 and 18. Goodness gracious. Can I get a motion to approve the remaining? So moved. Second. Second. Motion then second.

Madam Clerk, can we do a roll call please? Can we vote with our devices?

Valerie AmezcuaItem 3

Can we just vote?

It's fine. Let's vote. Prepare to vote, please.

That's why I was asking for a roll call.

I think we are having some technical difficulties.

Let's just do a roll call.

Council member Hernandez?

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 3

Yes.

Council member Becerra? Yes. Council member Phan? Yes. Council member Peñalosa? Yes. Council member Vasquez? Yes. Mayor Potem-Lopez? Yes. Mayor Emesqua? Yes. Motion passes by unanimous consent.

Good item six, please.

I just copied them. I don't know.

Benjamin VazquezItem 3

In the way.

Benjamin VazquezItem 3

Go ahead. Okay, I pulled this item last minute because I met with Share Ourselves, and they've been in escrow wanting to open up a clinic here in Santa Ana. They've been working here for 14 years. We heard the speakers. They've been in escrow since March, and they're going to have a full-on clinic from

Benjamin VazquezItem 3

medical, dental, health, and it's a necessary resource we need at Santa Ana. We're a city with limited resources. We have limited amount of parks, limited amount of libraries, we have limited amount of housing, affordable housing at that, and to turn away a resource like this that is that we are definitely in I know that when it comes to health, it's a big concern of many youth. And that's why I pulled the item because I wanted to do a continuance to see how we can help them close their escrow deal and move forward from that.

Benjamin VazquezItem 3

I'm calling on a continuance.

David PenalozaItem 3

Madam Mayor.

David PenalozaItem 3

May I point of just.

Point of order, go ahead.

David PenalozaItem 3

Yeah, point of order with Madam City Attorney. I want to just make sure if we could remind City Council that this item is pertaining to a second reading of the Zorna Ordinance, not we're talking about escrow and property acquisition of a private company. So just so that we make sure that we all stay to what the agenda item is.

Sonia R. CarvalhoItem 6

This agenda item actually includes a number of areas that you are attempting to regulate in your second reading. Well, I can understand the argument that by adopting this, you will impose a regulation that could result in someone not being able to close escrow. I would like to remind the Council that any changes to this ordinance would require it to go back to the first reading, meaning there are many other regulations in here. And also to remind the City Council that the regulations that were discussed this evening by members of the public have already gone into effect because you've adopted an urgency ordinance.

Sonia R. CarvalhoItem 6

So, even if you were to pull this item, even if you were to amend this item, that is not going to solve the problem. The urgency ordinance will remain in effect.

Are there any other comments? I'd like to move the item. I'm sorry, Councilman Bissart.

Valerie AmezcuaItem 6

I'd like to move the second reading of the item.

Benjamin VazquezItem 6

I still want to comment on that. I know that we've had the emergency, but we still have the power to help and pull the

Sonia R. CarvalhoItem 6

emergency item and vote again and voted out no the urgency ordinance was previously approved by the council on a supermajority vote pursuant to the provisions of the city charter this ordinance is a regular ordinance it was adopted in addition to your urgency provisions so no matter what happens with this ordinance the urgency ordinance provisions will remain in effect if the city council wanted to go back and rescind the urgency ordinance that would be something you'd have to agendize and you would have to have your

first and second reading on there's a motion on the floor is there a second I'll second prepare to vote at this time are there no other comments I don't know I don't know if anybody else is working.

Okay, it's working. Let's prepare to vote, please.

Council Member Hernandez, can you voice your vote?

It was a thumbs up. He voted.

Mayor Mesca, can you?

Motion passes 6-1 with Council Member Vasquez dissenting.

Item 10, please.

There was an item 10. Somebody pulled item 10. I did not. I think it was Mayor Pro Tem Lucas.

Jessie LopezItem 6

Thank you. Sorry. There were a lot of items that were pulled. I have no issues with the staff report. thank you it's very easy to read the only thing i want to ask our staff is that we give the parks heads up it is public information but i'm not going to rely on the public to go and read it so if we could just release it um be our city channel so that they know uh you know a month or a couple of days before that in november some of the parks and work they will be closed Thank you. So I'll move the item.

David PenalozaItem 10

I'll second with comment. I agree with Mayor Pro Tem Lopez. If we could just make it, simplify it for our residents to see and know and also not just when park amenities or whatever it is are going to close but the duration as well because that's something that's frequently brought up to my attention. It's like, hey, this was closed three months ago. How long do these things usually take? So whatever you can do there to inform the public, I'd appreciate it. Thank you, Madam City Manager.

Thai Viet PhanItem 10

Thank you. And I've spoken to our director, Saba, about this, but I want to also put it out there into the world that pickleball courts are being considered as overlays for tennis courts. And I personally have a lot of concern for those parks that are in neighborhoods. Pickleball is a much louder sport. so you know discuss it with the parks and public works but thank you so much for talking about getting it out to the community thanks

let's prepare to vote please there are no other comments on the item is the

receiving file I don't think we need to register a vote the item is the receiving

Jessie LopezItem 10

file i rescind my motion oh we're not voting it's just a receiving file so okay got it um item 12 please

Valerie AmezcuaItem 12

thank you madam mayor i i went ahead and pulled this item this is the quarterly report for um housing projects um madam city manager what i wanted to know just because i'd asked for it last time this item came before us because I wanted to understand. So back in April of 2022, the council, a majority of them, had voted to amend the housing opportunity ordinance or the WHO. And so what I was concerned with was in those reports to accurately portray how much in lieu funds that we were receiving from projects based on the revised WHO from April 2022. So my question, I see Judson Brown in the audience, Madison Manager, have any of the

Valerie AmezcuaItem 12

projects paid any of the funds into the Inclusionary Housing Fund using the current WHO standards that were adopted in April 2022? I will ask Judson Brown, Housing Manager, to address

that. And sir, I do recall you. Is your mic on? I'm sorry. Is your mic on? It is. Is it not? Can you not hear me? And I also apologize because I do recall you asking to have that information included in the quarterly report so we will correct that going forward.

Valerie AmezcuaItem 12

Thank you.

Thank you very much. Is this on? Thank you very much, Councilmember Becerra. No projects have paid the in lieu fee since the ordinance was amended in April 2022.

Valerie AmezcuaItem 12

So we've had zero dollars going into our Inclusionary Housing Fund since then?

That's correct.

Valerie AmezcuaItem 12

Okay. So we had, we're at five a foot. We were what? I think, Judson, correct me if I'm wrong. So between the time that we reduced it to five a foot in the WHO to April 2022, we received what, about $9 million into the inclusionary housing fund?

I would have to look up that data myself. I don't have it readily available. I believe we provided two earlier today.

Valerie AmezcuaItem 12

That's fine. Okay, thank you. So I just wanted to make that clear. And with that, I'll go ahead. Is this a receiving file or do we need to? to take action on it. We'll be getting that information in the future.

Yes, it is a receiving file, but I believe Council Member Lopez also wanted a comment. No.

Any other comments?

No, I think we're going to.

Item 15.

Valerie AmezcuaItem 15

So, Madam Mayor, I just wanted to make a quick comment on that. items 15 and 16 i wanted to thank uh nabeel saba our public works director and his staff for proactively reaching out to guarantee chevrolet i think one of our callers this evening echoed a sentiment that you have heard the council say over and over which is how can we proactively get businesses here in san anna especially those that have been here for decades years and how do we get them involved in our process and director Saba informed the council that he reached out or him and his staff reached out to guarantee

Valerie AmezcuaItem 15

Chevrolet and they were able to discuss small business certification and so for any businesses that are listening I would absolutely recommend that you reach out to the city to see how you can work with us as we make purchases as we have projects that come through so that you could work with us there's so many opportunities and I don't want to speak for the council but I have to believe that there is a strong majority of us that would love to see small businesses medium-sized business any business that is Santa Ana based actually working on city projects or providing the city with equipment so with that I just wanted to

Valerie AmezcuaItem 15

say thank you director Saba and your team for hearing the council and doing that proactive work thank you thank you then any other comments

Councilman Hernandez.

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 15

Just wanted to say good work to Director Saba on getting these vehicles. I too had very similar questions. I was hopeful that this would be guaranteed Chevrolet in our own backyard. It's not, but it is an American-made, union-made car, so I'm happy about that, sir. Good work.

No other comments?

Go to item 17.

David PenalozaItem 17

Do we need a motion? I'm sorry.

Did you make a motion?

David PenalozaItem 17

Oh, no, no.

Valerie AmezcuaItem 17

I didn't pull it. I just commented. That's it.

That's why I didn't ask for a motion. Item 17, I pulled it, so we will need a motion.

But I do have a question on this item.

It will be for you. It's from the police department. I see the chief coming up.

If you ask the question, if I can answer it, I will. If I can't, we certainly will. Okay, great.

so can you tell me about its appropriation adjustment recognizing $674,000 and change here for a law enforcement grant and so it talks about miscellaneous equipment frontline law enforcement training and overtime police vehicles can we talk a little bit about that and the need and what is the need

certainly and for that I will call the chief of police up to answer those

question. Thank you. Chief Fountain, if you could just cover the need, what the money will be used for, please.

Sure. Thank you, Mayor and City Council. As listed in the staff report, it's to support core services, handheld portable radios, police vehicles, improvements to the building, security to the building other miscellaneous equipment lapel microphones frontline law enforcement training and overtime this state grant does not allow for supplanting for hiring police officers but it does allow for all these other uses and we're a regular recipient of this grant correct and I and I read this and so

thank you for reading it back to us I'm more interested in what is miscellaneous equipment. What is that to you?

So anything having to do with frontline equipment, be it radios, it could be computers, it could be a whole host of things that our staff need to deliver core police services.

And when you have in here frontline law enforcement training, can you explain that, please?

That could be post-required training. That could be additional specialized training. We have detectives that investigate sex crimes, crimes against children, domestic violence. That requires specialized training. We can provide payment for that type of training. Homicide detectives, gang detectives, even enhanced active shooter response.

Great. Thank you. Are there any other questions from any other council members? Make a motion.

We have a second. I'll second. Thank you. Let's prepare to vote. Thank you, Chief Valentine.

Everybody vote.

Motion passes by unanimous consent.

Great. Thank you. Item 18, I pulled that. So the remainder of the disbursement of the Homeless Housing Assistance and Prevention program funds. Madam City Manager, can you talk a little bit about that? And it requires five

affirmative votes at this time. Okay, well certainly. So you might recall that this is round three and it was held up for a while. The governor of the state put it on hold until he found out information about homeless plans from different cities. We're happy that he is releasing it. So it is an approving an appropriation adjustment to receive our remainder of our disbursement of that money from round three you would be recognizing eight point two million dollars in funds from the state of California so will the

there's a plan in place it was it's been there before I even came on board correct correct so with the remainder of this money being dispersed to us will you be updating our website so that the community can see exactly what that I I believe it's $8 million in change.

Correct, 8.2.

Yeah, exactly what we'll be using that money for. I know we have some homeless information, but I think it's very important because when the community asks, what have you done, what are you doing, where are you going with this, is there a way we can share that information?

We certainly can, and we can also include all the other funding sources that we use for homeless efforts.

That would be great if we can do that, because it's a good chunk of money, and I want people to see exactly what it is being used for. So thank you very much. Are there any other questions from any other council members? I'll make a motion. I'll second. Thank you. Let's prepare to vote.

Motion passes by unanimous consent.

Item 20.

David PenalozaItem 18

Thank you, Madam Mayor. I pull item 20, which is to approve an agreement with 3D Inc. for the rent stabilization and just cause eviction ordinance rental registry portal. The only question I have for this regarding this Madam City Manager is, I don't know if maybe your Executive Director of Community Development might want to answer them. If Mike Garcia is here, I don't see him. But the only question I have is that in the, under the fiscal impact in your staff report, it says that staff will explore reimbursement of the inclusionary housing fund after rental registry fee revenue is accumulated.

David PenalozaItem 20

In future fiscal years, funding will be included in the proposed rent stabilization program budget for city council consideration. So, how exactly is staff going to explore seeking, you know, to reimburse, reimbursement of the inclusionary fund with accumulated future fees? I, I, I'm just, and the reason I'm asking the question is the, the program is supposed to be self-funded with the registry fee, which is okay, but now we're going to expect to to be able to also fund money that we already put out up front.

David PenalozaItem 20

So now we're hoping to make extra money to fill in the back end.

Correct, sir. So when the program, the rent stabilization and the just cause eviction was approved, we provided a timeline of all of the major steps. One of the major steps is getting this portal up and running. When the portal is up and running as landlords register, they will be paying a fee. So it is intended to be self-supporting. But because we need to get it up and running before we're actually going to be able to collect those fees, staff is recommending any startup costs that we need, and they're estimating about $53,000, that it be used out of the Inclusionary Housing Fund when

it is up and running, reimbursing back into that fund. And the item before you tonight doesn't have anything to do with any appropriation adjustment. It is really just approval of the agreement for the firm that was selected to run the registry.

David PenalozaItem 20

So we're approving an unfunded contract, and which staff is now going to hopefully get an appropriation for during the mid-year budget?

With the fiscal impact, as you read, it talks about when they start collecting them on July 1st, the funds will be used for the administration of this component. But since it has to be created before, they'll be submitting a mid-year budget update to use the funds you just mentioned.

David PenalozaItem 20

Right. But how will staff explore the reimbursement of the inclusionary housing fund after the fee? What is entailed in exploring? What is staff going to do?

Certainly. So once it's up and running and the landlords pay their fees, any excess of that would go to reimbursing the inclusionary fund.

David PenalozaItem 20

And what if there isn't a nexus because of how we're hoping that the fee is not what the consultant projected? We're hoping that it will be less. What if there isn't enough money to reimburse the funds that were now taken from inclusionary housing funds?

That's a question I can't really answer because that is in the future. It was intended to be set up to be self-administering with the fees from the landlords that pay for the registry.

David PenalozaItem 20

And I understand that, but see, here we have staff asking us for money that we don't know yet.

We're not asking for any money.

David PenalozaItem 20

Okay, we're asking for a contract that is going to need money at the next council meeting during the mid-year budget. it, it says here, during the mid-year, staff has submitted a mid-year budget adjustment for $53,000 from the housing fund, which I'm assuming will come at the next city council meeting when we discuss the mid-year budget. So this money, we're asking for it, we're going to ask for it, you're letting us know that you're going to ask for it, with the hopes that we could reimburse it back with the funds that will be accumulated from the rental registry, but we don't know yet if that will be possible.

I'll ask Judson, the housing manager, because I don't know if you were planning to submit it at the very next council meeting or you were going to do it sometime before the end of the fiscal year for the adjustment. Thank you so much, Christine and Councilmember Penalosa. the funds we need for this particular agreement through to June 30th, we are seeking approval in the mid-year budget adjustment, which my understanding is that our finance department is bringing that for approval by City Council at the next council meeting or the first meeting in March.

But relative to the long-term implementation and payment for this agreement, it will come through the rental registry fees collected under the ordinance and that will be subject to approval by City Council on the miscellaneous fee schedule.

David PenalozaItem 20

But that reimbursement question is still kind of left up in the air?

Yeah, and you asked about explore and reimburse the inclusionary housing fund. But these overall, what we're incurring right now are upfront costs, right? So we're incurring this upfront cost of $53,000 for the immediate implementation of the rental registry before the rental registry fees are collected. And so the intent and the goal of staff is to explore reimbursing our own city funds through rental registry fees collected in the future. That's the goal, but if it's not possible, then it may not be possible.

David PenalozaItem 20

Okay. I just, you know, we're going to be asking for money to borrow money, essentially, to fund something that we don't know yet will be reimbursable if those funds don't exist. So, you know, staff reports like this are always, you know, hard to swallow because we, at the end of the day, have to tell the public, okay, we're gonna be using money that we don't know yet if we're gonna be able to show for or reimburse, is essentially what the what that paragraph says on the fiscal impact. Staff will explore and we're

David PenalozaItem 20

hoping that it will be accumulated. And so that's that's it for this one, Madam City Manager. You know, I should have, it's submitted by Mike Garcia, your executive director of community development so he should have been here to communicate this but um i guess those are all the comments i have thank you any other comments by any other council

Jessie LopezItem 20

members mayor poten lopez thank you mayor mezcqua well thank you south for the staff report um i think it was great to pair item 20 with item five not necessarily that it was paired but it's great I think for the public and for this council to see both of those items on the same agenda because it gives you you know page five from the housing division quarterly report gives you a breakdown of the number of inquiries that our staff is receiving from Sanayano residents because they are seeking help they need help they need support whether you know everybody can identify

Jessie LopezItem 20

with that or not that is a reality for people here in the city and so when I look at this staff report and knowing and having awareness of the conversations that have taken in the past where we have explained that this is going to be cost neutral to the city of course like any other business model there are going to be fees that have to be presented up front but you know this council and previous councils has has had knowledge of how this city spends money and so I think to say we don't know how this money is being spent or what this money is being

Jessie LopezItem 20

going towards when you know the city pays every month you know millions thousands of dollars out without any fiscal responsibility without any knowledge of how that money is being spent you know it's it's we have to make a decision right of how consistent we're gonna be with the money that we have with taxpayer money and so this is actually going to something that the residents are going to benefit from that we can see that it's very tangible how money is being allocated how it is being spent and to what division it is being given to and so I'm very very supportive I know that our staff has been working really

Jessie LopezItem 20

hard that there will be rail guards in place to ensure and I'm very supportive that the HOO fund is reimbursed. And if not, the HOO fund is very, you know,

Jessie LopezItem 20

wide in how it was amended so that it helps support issues like this. So again, thank you. I know this is going to be very beneficial for residents, whether they're here to say it or not. Thanks.

Councilman Bezerra, please.

Valerie AmezcuaItem 20

Thank you, Mayor Mesquat. Councilmember Peñalosa, I thought you asked some very insightful questions because here we are, and yes, there are startup costs with any sort of experiment that's thrown out there, and that's what this is. What we're looking at, it was a grand, bold proclamation, and now we're going, oh, how are we going to do it? I appreciate the fact that the WHO inclusionary housing funds have been identified as a place to go for these startup costs, but let's be clear, as we, or as I mentioned in the last item when we talked about the quarterly housing report, the fact

Valerie AmezcuaItem 20

is is nobody's paying into the WHO or the Inclusionary Housing Fund because of some of these grand, bold ideas that certain folks up here have supported. So sadly enough, this is just something that doesn't shock me. It's something that just, you know, nobody really knows the cost. We're kind of fumbling around in the dark, hoping that one day we'll be able to say, look, we helped a bunch of folks, but sadly enough, we're hurting a lot of folks in the process. We're spending money that we're not really quite clear we're going to be able to recoup. And while some may say we'll support recouping those costs through these fees,

Valerie AmezcuaItem 20

there have also been folks up on this dais that have also said, we don't want to make those fees too high. So it'll be very interesting to see when the time comes if we'll be willing to actually have the fees commensurate with the costs

of this boondoggle. Thank you. Thank you. Any other comments? Yes, that's fine. Thank you.

Thai Viet PhanItem 20

Yes, so first of all, I had a question about the in lieu fees. The use, there's, I think, in item five, it said there's about $7 million available for use. Is that correct? I think the number on page 12-11 is 7.199247.

Thai Viet PhanItem 20

I just want to make sure I'm reading it correctly, that that is what's available and has not been encumbered for other development projects.

That's correct. In Exhibit A of the Housing Division Quarterly Report, which is item number 12, we currently have $7,199,247 in available funds.

Thai Viet PhanItem 20

Great. And here we're asking to use, I believe, $53,200 from the $7,000 plus available. That's correct. Great. Thank you. And when we approved the rent registry rent board work plan back in last fall, if I recall correctly we talked about creating a rent registry and then creating doing a

fee study is that correct that that's correct the long-term implementation plan that was approved by City Council on September 6 included direction to form a rental registry the and the adoption of a rental registry the registry is considered the most important tool used by jurisdictions to implement renter protections for their residents and the rental registry portal must be created in order to begin the collection of fees to recover all program costs associated with services provided under the ordinance.

Thai Viet PhanItem 20

Right. So we knew that the registry would have to be up and running and approve the fee to put into the registry, right, to start collecting the fees. Okay. And then my other question then is, we did, remind me, we asked you to come back with variety of options for what the registry fee would be. I understand there were some comments on here about capping it and whatnot, but that was not a direction from the council. It was about

coming back with options with the fee study, correct? That's correct. On November 18th, staff issued a request for proposals for a fee study consultant. Subsequent following that procurement process, staff entered into an agreement with revenue and cost specialist to conduct a comprehensive fee study to determine the appropriate program fees that would recover all programs costs associated with services to be provided under the ordinance. We are in the process of working with that fee study consultant to analyze a rental registry fee, fair return petition, capital

improvement petition, and tenant petition fees that will return to City Council in the miscellaneous fee schedule for consideration at a future City Council meeting date. And the, in regards to that fee, the fee will be set, and the direction was clear from city council that the fee will be set as conservatively as possible to reduce the financial impacts on tenants and landlords. And where staff can identify opportunities to contract out for services to keep that fee and the cost as low as possible, staff will enter into consultant agreements. And we will also identify ways to build upon other existing activities

across the city to administer the ordinance most efficiently. So that fee will return with the fees for the capital improvement petition, the tenant petition and the pay return petition.

Thai Viet PhanItem 20

Thanks. So I just want to clarify that nowhere in that direction when that implementation plan was approved that we said we do not want to recoup the cost of implementing the registry.

Thai Viet PhanItem 20

In other words, we gave direction that whatever the fee would be, while wanting to keep it as low as possible, we also wanted to make sure that it was self-sustaining.

That's correct. Thank you. That direction was very clear from City Council.

Thai Viet PhanItem 20

Great. And so, the fee would have to be approved by this council as a body, right? And so, if we do not approve a fee that would recoup the cost, the $53,200, it is decision of this council, correct?

That's correct, yes.

Thai Viet PhanItem 20

Thank you. So I'm fully supportive of this item. I think that $53,000 is less than what we've spent a lot of times on, I think, Christmas lighting in some cases. And I think this is an incredibly important item that is the correct use or one of the correct uses for the Inclusionary Housing Fund that we've stated in the past, which is also used, I think, for certain code enforcement violations or health safety welfare violations too. With that, I'm supportive of this item. I would move to approve it, and I look forward to staff's presentation on the fee study so

Thai Viet PhanItem 20

that we can approve a fee that is reasonable, but that would also ensure that this program is self-sustaining. Thank you. Second.

I have a comment. Did you have a comment?

David PenalozaItem 20

Just a point of clarification, Madam Mayor, I just wanted to clarify that I'm not questioning the use of the amount, because I said that's fine, it's what it costs, but it's the vagueness in the fiscal impact of staff exploring if we could potentially recoup these dollars. That's where I have an issue. It's not something to do with the ordinance. It is what it is, but it's that vagueness that I have concerns with. And it happens frequently with staff reports. So thank you.

There was a comment, I believe, about that the council knew this was coming and other comments. I'm not aware. Again, I don't have back history. So if I can get that city manager to really appreciate it because I'm not sure. and I've watched Kelce Means from Home for a long time, and I must have missed this one. In reading this, like, you know, if I have a duplex that I run out, how much am I paying? Because I have people that approach me, constituents that say, I have a duplex. You know, I have a small apartment. I have this, I have that. You know, I'm going broke, I'm gonna lose it. There's just all these other issues.

And so I understand there's gonna be a registry, but I'm not gonna support it only because I don't have the back, I don't have the back info, I don't have the history. And so I'd like to get that. So if you're going to bring an item like this that they've already approved, if you can get me the history, I'd appreciate it.

Certainly, Mayor. And yes, you were not on the Council at the time. But staff did present a complete timeline of all of the steps in which each one of those steps entails. And we're now just following that Council-approved timeline.

Great. If you could just get me the backup. Thank you. There was a motion and a second. Let's prepare to vote.

Motion passes 4-3 with Council Members Peñalosa Becerra and Mayor Mezcua dissenting.

That was a no. You got a no, correct?

Correct.

Okay.

Jessie LopezItem 20

item 22 thank you I pulled item 22 because I don't have an issue with how it's being presented or the warding and however and I want to thank staff for all the work that they've done with the RFP process I have personally volunteered with Seva in the past and I fully support the work that they do I did notice that you know and from past items it's going from five service providers down to two and I'm not here to advocate for any provider that did not submit on their behalf that is a responsibility however I do want to ask based on the

Jessie LopezItem 22

criteria of each section that's based that's the service providers could get 25 points, if you could let me know for UABF how they were ranked in each section out of the 25 points.

Certainly, Mayor Pro Tem. And I believe our staff has the breakdown of the individual scores. I can tell you overall as indicated in the staff report, there was a, the top was Dell at 97, SEVA at 88, and United Across Borders at 51. So Lauren, can you come up to the mic and talk about the individual category areas? We did still deem their proposal responsive. It just didn't have a lot of details in it and didn't answer all of the questions.

Jessie LopezItem 22

Yeah, I figured. And my understanding as I read it is that there are two main criteria, right, and one they met by being responsive. And the second one is the validity of their responsibility, which I have personally been a witness to. I know other members of this council have as well. I've toured the facility. They're a very legitimate organization. You know, a couple of weeks ago when it was raining, they serviced 500 families in Councilmember Peñalosa's area. And so we got to speak with them. We got to ask them, you know, verify where they were. And they were all from the surrounding neighborhood.

Jessie LopezItem 22

And so UABF is scheduled to provide these boxes for another 700 families. And I just want to make sure that, you know, if they're not, if the council majority does not want to support amending the contract or the agenda item in front of us, that there's some sort of mechanism in place for the city to support those 700 families that count on the service on a weekly basis. And I think this is just one of those issues, right, that this is a great organization that does great work, except for they are not, they didn't have great grant writing skills. And that's very unfortunate.

So Mayor Patim, to provide a little more detail, they did not answer all of the questions in the proposal. They missed entire sections. And they did have some inaccurate answers to their questions, particularly on one if they had ever received federal funding before. And they indicated they had not, but they were part of the program before. So I do believe it was, I think they were probably in a hurry and it was oversight. and I do know that my staff from the city manager's office reached out to talk to them about it. So as they are deemed responsive, if you want to reallocate to them and reduce the other ones,

that is certainly at the option of the city council to do so. Okay, thank you, City Manager. Would you still like to hear that?

Jessie LopezItem 22

Yeah, I think that would be great.

Before you speak, could you introduce yourself, please? I'm sorry, I've never met you.

Hi, I'm Lauren Matthews. I'm the management aide who handles Revive Santa Ana. Lauren, did you say Lauren? Yes.

Thank you.

So the RFPs were actually scored out of a total of 199 points on four different categories, which were each equally weighted. So experience of firm and personnel, proposed scope of service, cost proposals, data collection, reporting, and compliance.

United Across Borders scored 29 out of 41 in experience of firm and personnel. And again, this is not based, this is only based on what they wrote in their proposal.

So their background was not clear. They didn't give very much detail. Proposed scope of services, they scored 34 out of 80. Cost proposal, 11 out of 24. data collection reporting and compliance was 24 out of 54 okay thank you you have

Benjamin VazquezItem 22

a comment yeah I just like to be witness to United Across Borders as giving good service and working with community I myself have worked with them as well and and their ability to give out food and I think would be necessary for us or behoove us to have them keep doing the work and giving the service to those families. Not every community group or every group can cover the whole city. And when we limit it to two, it's going to limit us, the people we serve. So I'm with Council Member Lopez, if we can somehow give them 700 boxes weekly as well.

So if I can just interject really quick. I have an organization I can put you both in touch with that has food resources available to a nonprofit. And there's plenty of it, especially right now what's happening with the, it's going to be a shortage of food due to the COVID changes. So after the meeting, I can give you their contact info. They're looking for nonprofit to help in our city. And so it's actually very good. but it's the Latter-day Saints, the Mormon Church. They have pallets upon pallets of food that they want to help the city of Santa Ana. So I can connect you with them.

So if there are any other comments, Councilman Hernandez.

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 22

Thank you, Mayor Mezqua. I too want to voice my support for United Across Borders, my city manager. I firsthand have the pleasure of working with them throughout the pandemic as a newly elected official. I know Councilmember Lopez also worked with them and I can say not only was this is this an organization that is a consummate professional but they're accessible to the most vulnerable residents that we have and and I think that it's important that we diversify services Dalhi Center does a tremendous job SEVA collective does a tremendous job I think

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 22

that adding United across borders to the to the mix only allows us to serve a larger demographic of people, there's a large sum of money that can be evenly distributed amongst the three, and I think that it accomplishes what we're setting out to do in an equitable manner. So Madam City Manager, would you like some specific direction as to how we can break up those monies or what type of

direction do you need from us? Can I make a comment before you go that way? So the The only concern I have is that, and again, I can only say I'm new, probably one more meeting, that I'll be told I'm not new anymore, is if we start to do that, and I know they're a good organization, by no means, I know they're a good organization. If we start to do that, then what we're doing is we're setting precedents. So other organizations are going to come and say, well, I didn't fill that out correctly, or I was rushed, and I don't know how to do it. then we become the grant writers, and that's not fair to the organizations and the community

that they all serve as well. So if there's a need in a certain area, then we should let, it looks like, Del High and Siva know so they can go into those areas. I just am a little weary of becoming the grant writer for them, and I'm not saying anybody said that, but when they've scored, I'm sorry, Lauren, can you come back up here, please?

We don't have the staff to write grants, correct? We don't write grants for other entities. We don't write grants for the nonprofits, correct? Correct. So can you go through the scoring process again slowly?

So I made a very detailed spreadsheet and the three graders all got a copy and it kind of went line by line for every item that we asked for in the proposal. And then things were scored as to whether they were there or not, and then on one to five on quality on items that could be based on quality.

Can you give us the scores, please? It's like a 200 line. Okay, give us the ones you gave me earlier, shared with us earlier, give those to us.

Okay, so the total score was 51%. They scored 71% in experience of firm and personnel, 43% in proposed scope of service, 46% in cost proposal, and 44% in data collecting, reporting, and compliance.

Okay, can you tell me about SEVA, what they scored in data and scope, and the same ones you just shared right now, please?

SEVA Collective scored 95% in experience of firm and personnel, 93% in proposed scope of service, 63% in cost proposal, and 100% in data collection reporting and compliance. And the other one, the Delhi, please. Delhi scored 93% in experience of firm and personnel, 99% in proposed scope of service, 96% in cost proposal, and 100% in data collection reporting

and compliance. And data is very critical, correct? Yes. And can you tell us why?

Because it is a federal grant and because we were given over a hundred million dollars, we are guaranteed to be audited, is my understanding. So we need to make sure that we properly document and report everything and have it all ready for the feds should they, when they come and audit us.

And just from my experience in the city on the school board, we do get audited. And so when you're talking about data, it's very important that they're in compliance and that they do it correctly. So you have two that scored 100% in data and one that scored 44%. Again, United Across Borders, it is a good organization. I don't have a problem with it, and I'd love to help them any way I can as well. But when it becomes a data issue, federal money, reporting, if we are not able to report and give them proper data, correct information, what happens?

We have to give the money back.

That's right. And if we already spent it, where will it be coming from?

General fund.

That's right. That's right. And that's why I wanted to ask that question, because I think it's so, I think it's wonderful this council's always, and since I watch at home many nights, wants to help so many organizations. I would love to too. The problem is everything that we get from the feds is about data. We have to report back. And so if a group scored, you know, 44% on compliance and the other two scored 100%, I'm going to support the two that supported 100%.

So you went 93, 99, 96, 95, 93, 63, and 100% compared to 71, 43, 46, and 44% on data. I don't know about my peers that are sitting up here, the council members, but I don't want the city of Santa Ana to have to dip into the general fund because the feds did not approve of the data that we're reporting or lack thereof. So I'm going to support this motion. And if there are any other council members who want to speak.

David PenalozaItem 22

Madam Mayor.

Yes, council member. If I can.

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 22

I believe we were waiting on response from Madam City Manager.

Okay, certainly. Can you ask your question again, please?

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 22

Yes, yes. If you can provide us, Madam City Manager, with some specifics as to what we're looking for today, what I'm proposing is we could either potentially split those monies in threes, or specifically I'd like to see from you, what is it that you're looking for as far as direction?

Well, I was just putting it up there based on the questions that had been posed. because their bid is deemed or their proposal is deemed responsive you can award dollars to them if that is of interest of the council you certainly have the power and authority to do that what it would look like would be a motion to approve with an adjustment made to Delhi and SEVA collective and an amount to United across borders if that is something you want to move forward with, I would hope you keep in mind the overall scores with United receiving the lowest score

when you decide what amount of money you want to suggest for them. I will tell you they did receive dollars in the first round. They received $83,000 and they were able to serve 46,000 residents.

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 22

Given that context and history, Madam City Manager, I would like to see an adjustment reflecting $83,333 with 33 cents go to United Cross Borders, and that can be split within the Delhi Center and SEVA Collective, so that would be half of that 83 taken from respective organizations, so that the bulk of the money goes to SEVA Collective, Delhi Center, and based off of the criteria of scoring, it doesn't leave out United Cross Borders,

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 22

but it includes them at $83,333.33 with the expectation that they continue to serve residents. Would that be similar numbers as to what the expectation would be?

Certainly. You would just need to make that in the form of a motion.

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 22

Yeah, I'll make a motion and entertain a second on the floor.

Is there a second? Second. Second by Mayor Pro Tem. Are there any other comments?

David PenalozaItem 22

Madam Mayor.

Yes, Councilman, panelists.

David PenalozaItem 22

Thank you. I just wanted to point out that at the end of the day, you know, all of these organizations are great. So thank you for all the service that you do with our community. It's appreciated. And at the end of the day, it's $250,000 each that are being awarded to the two recommended organizations, which is pennies compared to the price of goods currently. I mean, if we start splitting that up already, I think the quality in the foods that these organizations, all of them, are going to be able to provide to our community is just going to be less.

David PenalozaItem 22

So I would just hope that the two recommended entities are made aware of where exactly, and I know Dell High Center and SEVA Collective both are aware of where the need is in our community and I would hope that both of them make sure that their that their execution plan of how they're going to distribute these these the the food whatever they're going to provide with with this funding is you know reflective of where the need is and I know that that's usually what they do but I would hope that we make sure that that is emphasized with that I will make and I

David PenalozaItem 22

I would hope that the next round, that we have funds coming to, well, in the future when these things come up again, that we work with organizations like United Across Borders to make sure that their proposals are up to par to what they should be. And you know, having to deal with federal funding, not that we write the grants for them or any of that, but that we try to help in a way or steer them in a direction. Well, okay, so with that, I will make a sub-motion to approve the recommended action to authorize

David PenalozaItem 22

the city manager to execute the agreements with Del High Center and SEVA Collective in the amount of $500,000.

Valerie AmezcuaItem 22

I'll second that.

Councilmember Fenn.

Thai Viet PhanItem 22

Thank you, Mayor.

Thai Viet PhanItem 22

So I've seen UAB work. They're fantastic. I actually got to visit one of their events with Mayor Pro Tem Lopez in December. My problem with this is actually that extremely unfortunately, because we know they've worked with the city before, but in reality they had a response that had blanks. They did not, they skipped questions, is that correct? Okay. To me, I would have considered that non-responsive. And I know the reason why we did not, well, I don't know, I don't read your mind,

Thai Viet PhanItem 22

I wasn't there in grading, but I believe that the reason why we did not outright say that they were non-responsive is because of the work that they've done in the city and because of our relationship with them. I don't know if that's true, but that's just my belief because we've had a good working relationship in the past. but I do believe that they should have been considered non-responsive. If any other contractor had come to the city and submitted a proposal with questions that were left blank, if they had stated that they'd never received federal funding before,

Thai Viet PhanItem 22

and if they had made as many unfortunate oversights or mistakes as this particular response had, we would not have considered it responsive and this would not have been considered for funding in my opinion And and that sucks And you know I had talked to staff I asked well can't you know Councilor Penielosa I asked the same question like hey can we help them out and we can't the reality is we can't Help any organization respond to a proposal because it's unfair the point of an RFP is to create an even playing field for all organizations and groups and vendors that want to work with the city.

Thai Viet PhanItem 22

However, I think that I know, Lauren, you've met with the team at UAB. I hope that our conversation with them was very detailed as to why they scored the way that they scored, with very specific information, with action items that they can take in the future to improve their responses. and I do hope that if and when we have these types of funds again that they will submit and that they would be the highest scoring because we have seen them in public do the work.

Thai Viet PhanItem 22

And it's really sad because I want to vote to support funding based on my personal experience. But part of being elected to this council with this new council is that we weren't going to use just our personal experiences to reward those that we support or have worked with in the past. The goal I think, at least when I was elected, was to make sure that everything we do is transparent, is clear, and well-documented. And so with that I will support the sub motion. Thank you.

I will be supporting the sub-motion as well.

Jessie LopezItem 22

I just had final comments.

Yes.

Jessie LopezItem 22

Thank you. So I'm glad that we can agree that auditing and data is very important. I think that philosophy is going to help us solve many issues that are coming down the pipeline for this council. and I think you know when I hear the conversation about the overall scoring and how important that is I'm taking back to when this members of this council right were advocating for a trash hauler that was not being recommended by our staff because it didn't have a good rating and yet they were rewarded a 10-year contract and every day I hear about the impacts of

Jessie LopezItem 22

that contract so again this goes back to consistency for me and I as I said originally I fully support SEVA collective I volunteered with them I will continue to do that work I support the work that the Del High Center is doing I would like to see this contract be expanded but it's clear that it's not and so we don't need to have a sub motion but I would say to the makers of the motions if you could rescind your original so that we can just move this

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 22

item forward yeah I'll rescind my original motion just to move the item

Valerie AmezcuaItem 22

forward perfect you ready to vote why don't we just vote on the sub motion there's a sub motion on the floor yeah we're gonna vote on the submission and

Jessie LopezItem 22

we're gonna move forward but do we have the authority to rescind an original motion city attorney?

Sonia R. CarvalhoItem 22

From a parliamentary procedure you probably can but it doesn't make a difference because they'll take a vote on the other motion anyway. Thank you.

Perfect. Let's prepare to vote.

The filing's not doing anything. Member, you want to just do a roll call, please?

Anybody's moving?

Let's just do a roll call, please.

Council Member Becerra?

David PenalozaItem 22

Yes.

Council Member Hernandez? No. Council Member Penalosa?

David PenalozaItem 22

Yes.

Council Member Fan? Yes. Council Member Vasquez?

Yes.

Mayor Potem-Lopez? Mayor M. Yes. Mayor M. Yes. Mayor M. Motion passes 6-1 with Council Member Hernandez dissenting.

MS. Great. Let's go to Item Number 32. Were any of the consent calendar at this point?

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 22

MR. My apologies, Mayor M. My vote on this item is yes. My apologies.

MS. Motion passes by unanimous consent.

Valerie AmezcuaItem 22

We have 31.

Item 32, Council Member Becerra?

Valerie AmezcuaItem 22

Oh, we still have 31, Madam Mayor.

Oh, I apologize.

31.

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 22

That would be end of consent calendar.

Right, that's what I said.

Sonia R. CarvalhoItem 22

It's out of order on your, on your, right here. If you look below, it's 31.

and we're going to go to the business calendar i'm sorry they have me all over thanks sorry

item 31 the review of the city council subcommittees interest list and appoint members i'll now open for nominations i nominate myself for hold on one second let me finish you gotta be finishing that i'll call on you i know you want to jump in there i will now open for nominations for city council subcommittee positions. To move forward for each nomination, a second is required. So please do not, please let me call on you before you yell out what you want, please. So, Councilman Vasquez.

Benjamin VazquezItem 31

I'd like to nominate myself for joint school collaboration, city council standing subcommittee.

I would only, city attorney, Let me just ask a question for clarification. As a school employee, is there a conflict, just for clarification, for him to sit on the joint school subcommittee?

Sonia R. CarvalhoItem 31

For purposes of conflict of interest analysis under the Political Reform Act, money that is received as salary from a public agency is not defined as income. And so it does not create a conflict under the Political Reform Act. Perfect. Unless there's some ethical reason the council would not like to... Just want to make sure. He'd be fine.

Great, thank you. Thank you, Mayor. You're nominating yourself for the joint school? Now we need three, correct? Is that correct, Senator?

Yes, it's two to three members per committee.

Okay, Mayor Pro... I'm sorry, let me go this way.

Councilman Panalosa?

David PenalozaItem 31

No comment, Mayor.

Do you want to nominate yourself for any, no?

David PenalozaItem 31

No.

Councilman Fan?

Thai Viet PhanItem 31

Nothing here. Thank you.

Council Member Becerra.

Valerie AmezcuaItem 31

Thank you, Madam Mayor. I'd like to continue to serve on the Public Safety and Homelessness Subcommittee.

Councilman Hernandez.

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 31

I'd like to stay on the committees that I'm representing.

And what are those, please?

Johnathan Ryan HernandezItem 31

The School Joint Use Committee as well as the Public Safety and Homelessness Committee. And that is it at the moment.

Jessie LopezItem 31

Mayor Pro Tem Lopez? Yeah I'd like to say I'm legislative and joint school. Madam Mayor?

Yes. Hold on let me see if she's done. Okay. Mayor Pro Tem? Finished thank you. You said legislative and joint school? Correct. Okay Councilman? Apologies Mayor Pro Tem. I thought

David PenalozaItem 31

you were asking if we had comments on Councilmember Vasquez's nomination. No I'm

I'm going to do a motion for a second for all of these once we're done.

David PenalozaItem 31

To move things on. I would like to remain on the, or be on the Legislative City Council Stanley Subcommittee.

Any other ones?

David PenalozaItem 31

No, that's it.