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God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
0:30If you can remain standing, is Doug Hardin here? Please go ahead, our police chaplain.
0:33Let's pray. Father, thank you for being here with us this evening, God. This room is filled with people for many different reasons. Lord, those who will be recognized for their contribution to our city. Lord, others who are concerned about issues with their family and their loved ones. Father, those who are in business in our city, Father, seeking decisions, Lord, to be made. Father, many things going on that are concerning to us as citizens. Lord, large things that are far too big for us.
0:42So, Lord, we thank you that we can come and seek you for your wisdom, God. You tell us if we lack it that we can come and you'll give it to us liberally. Lord, that you're not hiding from us, that you desire to lead us and guide us. If we'll acknowledge you in all of our ways, you promise you'll direct our steps. So, Father, we pray that you would give us wisdom, Lord. That you would be the one, Father, that would have your will to be done. And that, Father, we would have the humility to understand that your ways are good and right. so father go before us this evening lord speak to us lord guide and direct we ask in jesus name
1:22amen thank you you may be seated uh in the interest of time i know we've got a lot of young folks here i want to ask councilman jose solorio to make a presentation to a san High School's Elizabeth G. Macias Legal Studies Academy. So if whoever is with that group, I turn it over to you, Council Member Solorio. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'd like to have the entire
2:04group come on up right now, and I'll just, for the sake of time, begin talking while they're coming up. You know, Wealth Valley homework time, and I know there's two or three groups being recognized with a lot of students so that is why we're taking the agenda a little bit out of order. This group that we're recognizing and then we also have school board member Alfonso Alvarez if you can also come on up because I know you're very proud of all your high schools and all your programs. This is a special recognition for the Santa Ana High School Elizabeth G Macias Legal
2:31studies academy and their program accomplishments which includes some mock trial accomplishments and I do pretty good in the legislative chamber but the court is another similar setting and it's tough. You know when I was in high school I did mock trial one quarter and it was too much I didn't continue to do it so I value the work that you're doing in your mock trial program. Let me tell you a little bit about the individuals behind me and their accomplishments, and then we'll have a couple of speakers.
3:09First, the recognitions we're giving to are for the advisory board, and they start with the very honorable Judge Elizabeth G. Macias, who is an Orange County Superior Court judge. We're very proud of her group there. Also on the advisory board are Michael Mooney. He is an advisory board co-chair, and he's a mock trial coach. He's also deputy public defender, so they have that side of it as well. We have Carolina Gomez. She's also an advisory board co-chair, a mock trial coach, and she's the liaison from the OC Hispanic Bar Association.
3:43We also have board member Estuardo Panciano, and he's the director of admissions at UC Irvine Law School. So when we talk about a pathway and having exposure to individuals like this, that's very powerful for these students in this program. We have Kristen Robinson, who is also an advisory board member. She's an assistant professor of the legal studies department at Santa Ana College, because they're part of this partnership as well. We have Israel Claustro, who is an advisory board member as well, mock trial coach. He's a deputy DA, so again, to make sure we have all sides represented.
4:23He's not in attendance, but he's here in spirit. We have Santa Ana High School teacher, Mona Constant. We're proud to have her here. We also have a principal who is so active and so good. He's here practically at every meeting. Maybe he's only here in spirit today, but I know we have always with us Jeff Bishop, who is our high school principal, and we recognize him. And then last in this order, but surely not least, in full disclosure, my spouse, Lindley, who's an outstanding public school teacher at Santa Ana High School and the Legal Studies Academy coordinator.
4:59we have some amazing outstanding students some which are here like Emily's Saran Samantha Cervantes, Jesus Lopez, Salem Luna, Santiago Malmango, Tania Belgarejo, Sofia Sanchez, Manuel Sariana, Long Toe, and Arturo Villarreal. They're all getting certificates as well. Some key points there are many this Legal Studies Academy is a program for 10th, 11th, and 12th graders. It creates a pathway of classes designed to give students a foundation in law in preparation for mock trial team experience.
5:39The mock trial team has grown from one team to two teams, and they fulfilled, for example, I think this year, 35 hours of courtroom involvement. Their mock trial team has competed with other teams across the country and have consistently scored on par or better than some of our best high schools around the country. The advisory board of legal and college community is of tremendous support and I mentioned some of the individuals involved. It starts with a very key person from the legal community and that's a judge, Elizabeth Macias, and I know she still has many,
6:19many years ahead of her, so we're going to be very pleased to have her in this capacity for a long time. And she's been so good, they named the entire academy in her honor, so we're blessed to have her here with us. And what's unique about this program, too, it's a direct pathway to law school that includes Sennan High School, Sennan College, UC Irvine, UC Irvine Law School, and other law schools as well as like USC law school. So there's a great pipeline that really will get them on this path to success. And then finally, I know that none of these programs succeed unless if there's a
6:58strong cohort of teachers and they have teachers involved in the curriculum, the leadership of the program, the outreach, and the connection to the students. It's my great honor to on behalf of our mayor and city council recognize this great group. Let's give a big round of applause.
7:36Before we give out the certificates, I'd like to have Judge Maciasi a few words and then one of their student reps.
8:00Good evening, everyone. And I first want to start off by thanking both our Mayor of Santana as well as the City Council and, of course, Jose Solorio, Councilman, for this recognition. recognition. I also want to make certain that I give special thanks to Santa Ana Unified School District and Santa Ana High School, because the fact of the matter is that even though there might be a will and there might be people that are interested in helping, if people aren't receptive to the help that you want to provide, you just can't get it off the ground. And the reality is that we couldn't be luckier to have a school district
8:09and to have a Santa Ana High School principal as well as assistant principal that are so incredibly supportive of the students that we have. Our students are so courageous. They really are incredibly courageous, and they are so inspiring to us. And I'll tell you why. Many of these kids are first generation. Many of these kids, English is their second language. And they get up, and they compete with kids who are in private schools. They compete with kids whose parents are professionals, and they don't care. And you want to know why? Because they put in the time and they put in the energy and they have a passion to succeed.
8:48And so for me, I'm so incredibly thankful for the kids that we have because I'll tell you what, nothing can stop them. They want it so bad. That's right. Their hard work and dedication. They want it so bad that I have no doubt in my mind that they're going to make Santa Ana High School, they're going to make the city of Santa Ana extremely proud. I want to thank once again those of the team that really build us, that really bring us together. I'm so fortunate to have UCI, to have Santa Ana College, to have the public defenders through Michael Mooney, to have Carolina Gomez, which is the Hispanic Bar Association.
9:23They have been an extraordinary partner in our success, providing leaders within the legal community to help us, as well as Lynn, who we cannot do anything without her. The fact of the matter is that she keeps us organized and she keeps us on task. And again, these wonderful kids.
10:03She definitely has a skill set for that. And of course, our teachers, our incredible teachers such as Mona and Miss Emla, who's not present today. And of course, Tom Erickson, who's the director of the program. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't because we once crossed paths and we had a similar vision, which is to make certain that we had the kids at Santana High School succeed. So thank you so much for hearing me out, and once again, thank you to Councilman Solorio.
10:23We have a student as well that's going to come on up. It's all yours.
10:54Thank you. Good evening, everybody. My name is Tanya Malgrejo, and I'm a 17-year-old at Santana High School. This is my second year in the Legal Studies Academy, and I have to say that this has been one crazy, amazing journey. And I'm very grateful that I got to be part of it as my senior year. I don't know why I'm getting emotional.
10:58Doing good.
11:24I'm sorry. Going to a four-year university has always been a dream of mine, but I never considered going to law school.
11:35and I'm a first-generation student, child. Both of my parents immigrated from Mexico, including myself, and I've always had this vision of mine that I had to somehow not only represent myself, but represent where I came from. And this academy is the place where I found out that I fit in and I just want to thank all the teachers who have been involved in the entire Santa Ana Unified School District for being for making this Academy possible and I want to thank Mr. Erickson for believing in me when I couldn't
11:51believe in myself anymore. I want to thank Judge Macias and all the attorneys here for making this possible. I've had the opportunity to compete against some of the toughest private schools in the county and it wasn't easy and I've had nights where I was exactly like this breaking down because I thought I was incapable of doing it. I thought that maybe this isn't for me, maybe law school
12:32it's just another thought there that I wasn't capable of doing it. But as time went by I found that I was a lot more stronger than that and it gave me the skills that I have today such as public speaking and critical thinking. In mock trial I took the role of the pretrial attorney which was which I believe is the hardest part in the entire competition. I'm kind of an expert you can say in the Fourth Amendment now, the Fifth Amendment including the Sixth Amendment and I from the bottom of my heart I want to thank everybody for
13:07making this Academy Academy possible for making it grow as we speak and I am really really excited to see what the future students here at Santa Ana can make can do to make this academy grow even more. This academy I didn't know what I was getting myself into and now I know the possibilities I can come to the students that are in here. This academy opens doors to people regarding of where you come from. It doesn't matter where you come from. It doesn't matter your ethnicity, your race. If you want it you're gonna go for it and you're gonna
13:48do it. It doesn't matter what other people say. If you want it, you're gonna do it. There's no stopping you. The only other person that's gonna stop you is yourself. Thank you.
14:25So as you can see, as you can see, Sanana's future is bright and we're honored to have him. For the sake of time, we're gonna just give everybody a certificate for the photo but but thank you all so much and let's quickly give them out of Mona Mona you can take this to principal bishop Lan Lin Lee outstanding teacher thank you yes Israel Kristen
14:45Estuardo, Carolina, and Michael. And again, special thanks also to our school board member, Alfonso Alvarez, for being here. We'll take a photo and then we will continue.
15:24Thank you.
15:52Can we have you guys come together a little more? Thank you.
15:59Sorry.
16:07One, two, three. Yeah.
16:12Let's give them all another big round of applause. Thank you.
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16:31applause applause applause applause applause applause applause applause
16:34Now I'm going to call on Councilmember Vince Sarmiento and he's going to conduct our next presentation.
16:49Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And as I have, I call him our water czar. Maybe he can come up here and join me.
17:02Nabil, Sabah, come on up and join me. And, you know, as we see our students kind of walk out, I'm going to be talking about water, but as the only attorney up here on the city council, I want to especially applaud the efforts of Judge Macias, the teachers, the counselors, and especially the students and parents. You know, people don't realize how difficult the whole legal profession is. And for students at this young age to be getting some background, getting some training, getting some exposure to the legal profession is really invaluable. So I think that, you know, just know you all that, you know,
17:09where you come from does matter. I think because you come from Santa Ana, you realize that you know you carry an extra responsibility and I think you realize that you carry a whole community with you when you go into law school when you go take the LSAT the entrance exam when you take the bar so as a product of the public school system here in Santa Ana I want to especially applaud what you do because you know it's funny our paths are different but when we do go into that law school exam or bar exam, you realize that our path sometimes makes us value that profession
17:46that much more. And because maybe our path was more difficult and more challenging, it means that much more when we complete it. So I applaud your efforts. So thank you for everything that you all do. So let's talk water. Neil, come on up. And so I have the privilege of recognizing some artists that are helping us think about water, about conservation, about this valuable resource that we have. And these are the winners of the Santa Ana Water Youth Poster Contest. And we have different age groups that we're going to be recognizing here tonight. And I think we're going to scroll through some of the art, right?
18:23So you'll see some of the great artwork that is going to be on display. And I want to begin by starting with just a few key points on this. Today we're going to be celebrating 12 young artists that have inspired us with their creativity and messaging about our most precious resource today, water. And if you all haven't heard, you know, the governor, I think, today was talking about water specifically because he believes that we're still not out of this drought.
18:57We're still dealing with, you know, a scarcity of water, and it looks like he may, maybe not mandatorily, but voluntarily reintroduce some of the conservation efforts that he instituted just a few years ago when we were right in the middle of a four-year drought. Last year was the first year that we had a very, you know, seasonal hydrology, something that reflected what we normally should be, but we always have to realize we live in a desert. It's a very arid area. So we just have to conserve this that much more and value it. So these students help us remember how important this is. And we have some finalists.
19:27Out of more than 400 entries from 24 schools, our 12 judges recognize these young people that best demonstrated how important water is as a resource to really, you know, our part of the country, which has always been very water challenged. So the posters will be displayed outside of city council chambers, so you'll be able to see those, and they're going to be featured in this year's Water Quality Report, and it's going to be something that you all should really feel proud of because these students are learning the value of conservation of water and how to make sure that we take care of our resources here.
20:05Let's begin by recognizing Nabil. Should we begin with our youngest first? So we're going to go from our ages 5 through 8, the finalists. And we have different schools that are participating in this. And our first finalist in that age group from 5 to 8, so that's kindergarten to 3rd grade, Johan Bey from Santiago Elementary. Where are you, Johan? Let's give him a big round of applause.
20:48So the next finalist in that age group is Cristaline Mascarenas from Jim Thorpe Elementary. Where are you Cristaline? Very nice.
21:16And our finalist from Lowell Elementary, Nayeli Luis Martinez. Is Nayeli with us?
21:29See, kids like to fist bump. I don't know if they like to give a formal handshake, so we just fist bump up here. So Nayeli, you're our grand prize winner, so hold it up really high. Let's hold it up really high.
21:41So by the way, this contest was launched three years ago, and it's been a great success, right, Nabil? So it's brought an awareness to all of us. And it makes us enjoy it. Because look, who wants to see a stale poster that's made by adults with a bunch of graphics? Those really open our eyes and open our minds. So that's what's more special about those. So let's go to our next age group, which is 9 to 12. Our finalists here from Santiago Elementary, Matthew Bay. Is Matthew with us? Come on up, Matthew.
21:58Thank you.
22:32Matthew Bay from Santiago. Next, from Lowell Elementary, Sarai Santiago. Where's Sarai?
22:36Sarai just wanted her certificate, and she's going back to the line. So the grand prize winner in that age group from 9 to 12 is Brianna Moreno from Madison Elementary. Yay, Madison! Yay, Madison! Is Madison in the house? Madison's in the house out there, though? Madison's in the house. All right so okay Brianna's our representative from there. So now going to our junior high school students ages 13 through 14 and I'm not sure are those the 13 through 14 artwork? Look at that. It's impressive. So one of our finalists there from Lathrop Intermediate, I think all three are from
22:46Lathrop Intermediate in this age group, Elena Arechiga.
23:26Thank you, Elena. And the next finalist is Stephanie Lopez, also from Lathrop.
23:38See, they're a little older, so they can shake hands with me. The grand prize winner in this 13 to 14 age group from Lathrop Intermediate as well. Oh man, Lathrop was a clean sweep on this one. Deborah Sanchez. Deborah.
23:47Good job.
24:02Good job, Deborah. So here, coming to our last age group here. This is our high school students, right? And this is representing two high schools here. But our first finalist is Monica Rodriguez.
24:05Thank you, Monica. and our other finalist is Julissa Julian.
24:24All right I got the pronunciation right so I feel better. But that was from so Godinez and Saddleback and our grand prize winner is also from Saddleback and that's Alberto Rodriguez. Alberto.
24:36He's representing. He's got that Saddleback T-shirt. So these are our finalists here and our grand prize winners. But it's, you know, look, it's a testament to the parents. It's a testament to the students, the teachers. I see Lisa here. I know that it takes a village, right? We all do it together. So we just wanted to make sure we recognize you and say thank you for helping us bring awareness to this really important issue. And for me, you know, look, we, you know, we just need to keep talking about water because there's a lot of it that's going to affect our lives. And I want to
24:53especially thank Tram Lee from the Arts and Culture. He's a specialist here with the City of Santa Ana. Elizabeth Cárdenas from the Art of Change. Alicia Rodriguez with the Del High Center. And these three folks served as our judges, and they had a very, very difficult job, as you can tell. 400 entries, 24 different schools, so these guys deserve a big round of applause.
25:26Look, our water czar always wants to say a little something. He's going to keep it short, but he's going to say a little something. Nabeel Sabah.
25:55I'd just like to thank the Santa Ana Unified School District for allowing us to allow our kids to participate in this very important issue water and bring awareness to them about water and like to also thanks our judges and our school principals teachers our teachers and everyone that has put in effort in this competition like councilman Sarmento mentioned we had 400 entries which is magnificent every this is our third year and every year we get more and more participation which is great again I thank everyone and thank you
26:01all right parents so get your cameras ready we're gonna take a picture with your kids so I'm gonna drop this down and we're all gonna get a strike a pose right we're gonna strike a pose back here thank you all very much
26:48You guys slide away. If you can look through the back, slide.
27:08Don't block anybody. Perfect. Everybody look right here. Nice, you guys. So proud.
27:15Good.
27:24Thank you.
27:26Nice job.
27:30Perfect. Thank you.
27:35Mayor Pro Tem Martinez. Oh, you are going to take a photo? Go ahead.
28:13Just go ahead and start.
28:21It's up to you.
28:26I'm just going to move the media along. Great. If I can please have the congressional nominations. I'm not going to say all the names, but if you all can come on up. And also, Claudio Gallegos. Claudio, please join us. So today we're doing certificates of recognition for the congressional nomination to the U.S. Service Academies. And the individuals as they come that will be standing before me have all been nominated by Congressman Correa to the U.S. Service Academy.
28:29These students have grown up in Santa Ana and have overcome much adversity to be here and have worked tirelessly to be nominated for a US Academy. To even be considered for a nomination and acceptance to the Academy, applications must maintain a weighted GPA of 3.6 or higher. The applicants must also be involved in extracurricular activities such as after school sports, after school programs, and after school clubs. Furthermore, leadership role in their chosen curricular activities is highly recommended.
29:14Thus, these students have to maintain their high GPA as well as their other schedule. Today, we recognize the U.S. Academy's congressional nominees for their dedication to their hard work and their perseverance. I'm going to ask for Claudio if he can please join me up here first just to give some remarks on behalf of our congressman I always want to call him senator I'm just so accustomed to that so you know if you can just speak briefly on behalf of our congressman and I know he's delighted and certainly doing great work for us in Washington and just these amazing students that we'll be
29:52recognizing here today thank you so the congressman wishes he could be here today but we want to honor these very bright individuals who put their names forth to attend the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis and the United States Merchant Marine Academy it's not an easy task and this is our first year doing the nomination are given a slate of nominees and we are we really see what
30:27bright future Santa Ana has. It was a very competitive process. We saw many students come through who are very driven, very motivated, and are an example to the peers in their community. Many of them grew up in some of the tougher neighborhoods of Santa Ana and they did not let that adversity get in the way. It made them work harder.
30:59And seeing our slate of nominees, and not all could be here tonight, but knowing the slate of nominees, it's people like them. Many of them first-generation Americans who make America great. So thank you very much. The future is bright because of you.
31:29Thank you, Mr. Gallegos. And I would like to thank our congressman, Luke Correa, as well, for nominating these exceptional young students. So I asked them who would like to speak on behalf of them, and they were all kind of shy, but Danielle is going to come and share some words. Danielle, can you please come up here and just share some great wisdom and your experience in being nominated? All right.
31:52Let's see, where to start? Well, I'd like to say, I guess, thank you, Claudio, everyone that, you know, helped us get this far, helped us with the nomination. It was, let's put it straightforward, it wasn't easy, you know, it's a lot of hard work.
32:16I can only speak for myself, but I'm sure everyone here can say there's a lot of hours, a lot of late nights, early mornings, hard days at practice, days where you just want to give up because you're tired, but you know that you have to keep pushing forward because you know you have to, you know, there's something that you want to achieve and there's something that you want to, you have a goal and you're going to go for it. So yeah, I just wanted to say thank you and that's it.
32:37Thank you, Danielle. We are certainly very proud of all of you. And so we want to get closer, want to give you all a certificate of recognition awarded. And I'm going to say all of your guys' names because I think it's important for our residents and the community to understand the great sacrifice and work that these young men and women have done and really to be recognized, not just here, but recognized by our Congressman Lou Correa. And I know that he doesn't take a program like this very lightly. He's always wanting to make sure that we support the best and brightest of our students here in this community.
33:10And certainly wanting to thank him for his exceptional work in Washington, D.C. and continuing to help build a pipeline here for future generations to come. And so with that, this is a special certificate of recognition awarded to Danielle Rodriguez in recognition of your service, the Academy of Nomination to the U.S. Naval Academy and the U.S. Air Force Academy.
33:43This is a certificate of recognition awarded to Seth Chavez in recognition of your Service Academy nomination to the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy. All right.
34:11Next is Grant P. Cuevas in recognition of your Service Academy nomination to the U.S. Naval Academy. All right.
34:26I always tell folks that decide to go into the Merchant's Orts, the Naval Academy, that if they want a good job, you know those you see at the Long Beach Airport and the LA airport, those tugboats that they're pushing, you know, those pilots, you know how much money they make? The 12 of them that are in Los Angeles make over $350,000 a year, only work about 11 days a month. It's a great profession, so think about that. a lot of times people don't talk about that but they are the highest paid in the city of los angeles next is zoe alora vales in recognition of your service academy nomination to the u.s
34:37naval academy so don't forget about that job congratulations to all of you
35:13Great. You guys have a good day. Thank you.
35:31Next, we are going to do certificates of recognition for the participants of the City of Santa Ana General Plan Advisory Group. So if I could have all of you please join me up here. Claudia Ariane, Phil Becerra, Marlene Burton, Andrew Coquette, and I'm sorry if I mispronounced your name, Barry Cottle, Kathy Davis Bowman, Lynette Guzman, Peter Katz, Tish Leon, Nancy Mejia, Beatrice Mendoza, Isaac Michaca, Laura Morphine, Ken Wynn, Gil, Simone, Soledad Valentin, Orin Williams. Looks like the majority of
35:40you all here. And if we can please have Candida come up here as well. So these folks have dedicated an entire year to our update of our general plan and prior to our former planning director leaving Hassan Hagani you know he put this advisory committee together really to making to make sure that we get input from various stakeholders throughout
36:19our community and I just wanted to share some points because our staff put some things together but before I do I just personally want to thank them all for their for their hard work and really meeting every single, I think you guys met every month, every single month for an entire year, and various personalities, right, always wanting to come together really to ensure that we have the appropriate participation to making sure that we move this city forward with its general plan, and I know we have Phil here who has a planning background, and so with all the rest of you, whether you're in business, whether you're a developer,
37:00or whether you're just a community resident wanting to give the input that is needed and necessary, because ultimately this vision document of this general plan should have a bottoms up approach. And I think the intent is one that is important as we move forward. And if you look at these individuals, they certainly have provided some amazing input. but there is a report in our city council agenda. There's an attachment for those of you to review and making sure some of the conversations and topics that they discuss were very robust. And so just really wanting to thank them. I know everyone couldn't make it,
37:39so there was 18 individuals that were invited to participate in the group, each of which represent, as I mentioned earlier, a diverse community and serve as ambassadors for each of their respective constituencies, such as seniors, youth, business, school neighborhoods, community organizations, and members of city boards and commissions. The advisory group met through 2017 and came together for an impressive 14 meetings to discuss the general plan vision, core values, and goals and policies. These goals and policies will become the foundation of the general plan update that will be released later this year.
38:19I would like to formally recognize the members of the general plan group for their efforts and contributions to the general plan update and effort and really provide the certificates of recognition. But I would like to take a moment and ask if Candida would like to say a couple words about the process or one of the members of the advisory committee that participated.
38:55I was like, they're all going to be shy. What's going on here? Okay, Candida. This was an amazing experience, and I really want to, I would really like to talk about, recognize the two people in the very back row who are probably most important in making this process work, Vernie Carvajal and Melanie McCann.
39:19any advisory member would like to come and talk about their experience Peter you know it's hard
39:55to pull together different parts of the city whether you're bringing businesses and residents and neighborhood together and we realized that economic development and affordability of housing our environment and our transportation are key, but we really wanted to bring together that third rail in the community that slows down gentrification in the community, and that's what you call open space, a community space, like corner coffee shops, small parks, safe places, daycare centers, community centers, and these are the kinds of things that hold the community together,
40:01yet they don't bring a lot of money into a community, so those are left behind, and so we wanted to raise those important issues about the health of our community the environment of our community and the safety of our kids in our community
40:38fantastic so we have various members I can't open I'm not gonna just in the interest of time and where's our mayor before he starts alerting me I do want to make sure that I won't mention all the names but those of you who are here I do want to make sure to recognize you, dedicating your time to this very important, really, document that really hasn't been updated, a comprehensive update of our general plan. It's been over 30 years. And so to be able to get these amazing individuals to sit down and really talk through the various elements and really trying to bring something forward,
40:57as we talked about earlier, a foundation that is going to really help the city really provide the next vision for the next really 10 to 20 years is extremely important. And so I'm really excited that they were able to participate. And as we move forward with more community engagement, I just hope the rest of our residents will continue to be engaged in this important process. And so with that, certificate of recognition to Claudia Arianez in recognition of, Claudia, please join me up here in recognition of your dedication and contributions to the general plan advisory group here you go next we have here mr phil becerra in
41:36recognition of your dedication and contributions to the general plan
42:17thank you you're welcome
42:22Marlene is Marley please join me up here congratulations and thank you
42:26Andrew? No. Okay, great. Let me see. Barry Cottle's here. Yes, thank you, Barry.
42:34Thank you. Of course. I don't see Kathy Davis Bowman.
42:42Lynette Guzman? No, don't see her here. Okay, let me see Tish. Peter Katz.
42:53Tish Leon.
43:05I might be shaking everybody's else's hand.
43:09Isaac, we have here. Laura Morphine.
43:14All right, thank you all.
43:20Ethica.
43:27How do you pronounce your last name?
43:29All right. And I think that is it. And I'll go ahead and give this off to Candida. So thank you all so very much.
43:32Thank you.
43:41Thank you.
44:01I am up again and Councilmember Tinejaro was going to join me for this presentation but he's not with us, so I will begin. I'd like to invite up everybody with this great new organization that we're going to introduce, Foot on Wheels. I know some of the key board members are here like Angel Lorea, Jesus Rodriguez, Mariana Perez, Araceli Gonzalez, recognizing them for starting this group, but also to wish them well on their current and future successes. This new group, Foot on Wheels is the group that provides a lot of delicious food to Santa Ana residents and
44:48visitors. And I know people come from very far away to enjoy our tacos at our food trucks, our hamburgers at our food trucks, and a lot of other great dishes. I'm pleased also to recognize this group because last year when the council was considering guidelines for the food truck and the produce truck industry. There was misinformation with some thinking that we wanted to ban food trucks, and that was never the intention. The intention was always we have a thriving industry. We think we can do better. We also think that we can work hand in hand with our neighborhood so
45:29that all our neighborhoods accept them where they are, integrate them more into the business community, make sure that there's safety for them and their customers, because sometimes maybe they're in the past too close to the intersection or on streets where the speech too fast and we want everybody to be safe and to enjoy good quality food. Angel Lorea by the way is a known newcomer to the city. He knows about forming associations because he helped form the Santa Ana Soccer Association. So if you know anything about politics in Santa Ana and community involvement
46:05and tough issues and use of scare resources, the soccer communities know that, and Angel was the president of that group for many years. This group was formed last year in 2007. It was formed to assist the food truck community to work with the city on what these guidelines should be. So you might remember that there were a number of delays last year on all the rules, and part of it was because they were working with city staff and city leaders on good faith regulations to help the industry, not hurt the industry, and I think we were able to achieve that. And then now also they're part of the education team.
46:44They're working with other food truck leaders and produce trucks leader on understanding the ordinance and making it work. They've been extremely valuable within their group and others on licensing issues, knowledge of available locations, understanding the rules. There's currently in this organization about 60 food trucks. The organization is still growing. And overall, between the members of this group as well as produce trucks and other related trucks, we think there are about 400 food trucks. and they all provide value in the community. I know when I did a tour with them and I asked the customers, where are you coming from?
47:24And it'd be from Rialto, Los Angeles, San Diego, and them all. You guys have tacos in your community, the food trucks. Why do you come here? And it's because we have the best tacos and the best food trucks in all of California. So we're really proud of that. Yes, round of applause. That does deserve a round of applause.
48:05They're recruiting more folks. and again the organization continues. And they also have a long-term vision. I think when we worked with soccer leaders some years ago, it wasn't just about creating rules. It's about how can we make you as organizations successful? How can we grow? How can we partner with you in doing more events and bigger events? So, for example, these leaders have started conversations with everybody on the council. I know in particular Council Member Martinez has been very involved, Salstina Hero I mentioned, Ben Sarmiento, and others on ideas. So, for example, part of the bigger agenda, too,
48:26is greening this industry. Right now, often, when these food trucks are parked somewhere, they're running on a generator, or they're putting other pollution-emitting items, particles into the air, and it's not good. We'd like to, for example, create outlets for them where they could go green in that regard and not have the inconvenience of buying different types of fuel for that. So it's healthy and it's good. We're also talking about they're willing to contribute to the city and have a fee where they have maybe spaces reserved during periods of time.
49:01Because some of these vehicles, to reserve their space for that special evening spot, some of them will put a car there just to take up the spaces all day long even though they don't need it it's just to reserve the space and their arrangements where we can make maybe where their hours where they can have a dedicated spot and know that'll be there for them and then in turn pay a fee to the city so we could regulate it and enforce it and sponsor other services as well so we have a big vision we're also been talking and this is also the general plan element and
49:42also use of our surplus spaces we have. We want to create food truck islands like other cities and other states have where there are areas where there's multiple number of these food trucks and there's proper seating, entertainment, green opportunities, opportunities for children, you know, a broad array of food opportunities and entertainment options. Also with this great environment and industry, why don't we have a big food truck festival that everybody could be a part of and enjoy. And that is also part of the vision that this group has. So today it's my honor really just to introduce the group.
50:16I know we're going to have their president, Angel, say a few words. It's my honor to, on behalf of our mayor and city council and the community, to thank them for all their vegetarian tacos and quesadillas as well as well as their meat items as well. Let's give a big round of applause.
50:57I was going to say a little bit about the organization but he say it all already so no you know what I just want to thank Mayor Pulido. I want to thank all the council members especially the ones that have spent a lot of time with us which is Jose Solorio Saltinajero and Ben Sarmiento, Juan and everybody. I think that you know what we start is a great opportunity for all of us. Thank you very much and you guys have a good day.
51:19Now, Council Member Holtz. Go out and enjoy some tacos. All right. Are you going to give some to the crowd after all that talk?
52:14All right. Council Member Villegas, please.
52:23And if I can have the organization Human Options join me up here, please.
52:28Love Shouldn't Hurt. That is the name of a campaign put on by Human Options. And it's regarding teen dating violence. There is such a thing as dating violence. Touchy subject, especially in the Latino community because we don't talk about those type of things. It's taboo, but you know here we are to educate everyone. And so this one great organization that's doing a lot of work, and believe me there's a lot of work that needs to be done, is Human Options. And I asked them to come join me because here in the month of February we're recognizing
52:35National Teen Violence Awareness and Prevention Month. If I can have, would you come forward and please.
53:15Good evening. Thank you, Councilmember Rodriguez, for the proclamation, and thank you, Councilmembers, for honoring the proclamation and for naming February Teen Dating Violence Awareness Month. It's been amazing to sit here and watch all of the teens that are just powerfully speaking in the community and to know that they are the future. And for Teen Dating Violence Awareness Month, if we can really elevate the conversation around teen dating violence and make sure that they know that healthy relationships can happen and should happen, then we have a bright
53:23future. We actually on Saturday are hosting a teen dating violence conference for teens and their parents, and we are so excited. If any of you are wanting to come, it starts at 9 30 a.m. Saturday at Carr Intermediate, and we'll be focusing on conversations that are very difficult to have. A year ago when we had this conference in Costa Mesa, I was so impressed by a young father who was talking to his daughter for the very first time about not so much about what he didn't want for her because that's something that comes very easy and naturally, right? We began to talk about
53:52I don't want to see you do this, don't date that person, but what he sat down to do is really talk to her about all of the important things he did want to see for her, and it meant really somebody who cared for her, somebody who respected her, and really what that meant, and that conversation, I can tell you, for that young girl meant for the very first time she was seeing what it's like to have a positive interaction and positive communication with the male and so fathers have a direct impact mothers have an impact it's a great opportunity to just elevate a conversation our youth our future thank you so much for
54:24recognizing that thank you very much there's so much I could say about your organization I know them firsthand I understand that one of my friends used to be an instructor there and they would also go out and to speak to the the teen athletic departments and all the schools great speaker and he's moved on but he did a number of years with your organization it's just I was always impressed with the information they put out and definitely a need to know for everyone if you could both please stand here thank you and so on behalf of the mayor
54:56and City Council, please accept this proclamation for the month of February, a national teen dating violence awareness and prevention month. Thank you. Thank you. Let's take a second. Thank you.
55:35Fred, if you can have us join us up here and your lovely wife.
56:03Ms. Shaw, I'm going to turn this over to you as one a moment because I know we're all very close to Fred and actually I want council members that wish to make comment to do so. But as I turn this over to Mayor Pro Tem, let me just say to Fred, this is, Fred, why don't you stand right here so everybody knows. And your wife, why don't she come behind you right, yeah, right next to him, please. This is a really special guy. He has been working in public works here for how many years now, Fred? Three and a half. Seems like more than that. He says three and a half, but it seems like more because he works all the time.
56:30He works very aggressively. he always follows up. I'm really sorry to see him, to lose him, but he's going to Los Angeles, which is close to his home, much closer to where he lives. And right now, the poor guy spends hours every day on the freeways, you know, causing pollution, causing stress, making angry people on traffic and all. But he comes here with a smile. I know he's going to do a wonderful job for the city of Los Angeles. I think he's going to be the deputy director of streets or something like that, but couldn't happen to a nicer guy, but we're fortunate to have him here
57:11for the time that we did as our public works director. I know he worked very closely with the city council, so I would be remiss if I didn't invite them to make comment. Do you want to go last? Michelle bought him a special. It's really nice stuff, Fred. So we'll let her go last. Because this is from a shell. This is not like a tile from the city, which I'm going to present you here. Let me present it now. This is a tile to Executive Director, Public Works Agency, September 2014 through February 2019, Fred. It's a title, so they
57:53have to hang out another year. No, no, it says February 2018. But thank you for your years of service Fred thank you thank you it's been a pleasure working with you
58:30Fred I always thought you had the coolest pair of eyeglasses every time every time I see you have a different set you know but it's I wish you well and thank you for all your good work Thank you.
58:47You know, before some of the work I did, I worked at OCTA for eight years. And so I appreciate a good public works director when I see one. And so when I joined the council again, I had a few meetings. I'm going, wow, this guy really knows what he's doing. And he had ideas that were so good that I did research to validate them that they were good. And they were, in fact, good. and some really are still going to be part of the city agenda. Part of it is something called Gigabit City, where we have high-speed fibers to connect the business industry and students
59:02with some of the best fibers so that we can be faster and better and smarter. And then secondly, every now and then we fix our roads, but we don't really have a permanent, ongoing source of funds to keep them maintained. Well, he has a plan. And it's ready to go, and I'm still a big believer in it. we're going to implement it and when we do these two projects and others i'm going to remember fred because they were outstanding ideas he had them all teed up and they're still teed up and we're going to do them and we're going to miss you and we'll and we'll keep you posted
59:36i guess we're all warm up to mayor pro tem so we'll just go ahead and be brief but fred they say that when you go to a place you want to leave it better than how you found it And we can honestly say that about Santa Ana because nowhere do we see the changes like in the streets. There's more bicycle lanes. There's more bulb outs. He's made it a safer city. He's reduced traffic. And it's not an easy thing to make sure people are safe here in this city. So, Fred, you have left an impact on all of us and all of our residents. So I want to thank you on behalf of all of them and a grateful city for all the good work that you did.
1:00:13All I can tell you is that, you know, our loss is Los Angeles's gain. So continue doing great work. Don't forget about us and come back around and say hello. Good luck. Thank you.
1:00:47Good evening. You know, I have the distinction of being Fred's predecessor, and here I am to see him leave. In the short time that I've been here, Fred, it's been a pleasure working with you. And, you know, as a former public works director, I can certainly say with some authority that you were a very visionary leader and your legacy will continue well past your tenure, and I'm very happy to have worked with you. Congratulations.
1:01:01I'm not going to get emotional. I just wanted to, you know, really recognize Fred. Really, three and a half years ago, you know, when we were looking for a public works director, I remember telling our prior city manager, David Cavazos, like you need to find the best, brightest and somebody that has a big vision that is willing to come here and really be bold with their ideas. And certainly that was Fred. That's one thing that I can say that his ideas were extremely bold and visionary that, you know, we didn't see here for a very long time in this city.
1:01:37And so I want to thank you personally, Fred, because in the three and a half years, and there's a lot about Fred that I can talk about, but I want to talk about something in particular because prior to Fred, you know, we had Raul Godinez is our public works director, and he started that process in regards to active transportation and wanting to make sure that we put an emphasis on bikeability and walkability, but more importantly, with an emphasis on safety.
1:02:14And certainly when Fred came on board and we had these initial conversations and he made a tremendous progress in Redlands and the transformation that he was able to make, I was just super excited. I'm like, oh my God, this guy is the right dude. He's going to make things happen for Santa Ana. And sure enough, within a small period of time, we started to see transformation. And I just wanted to share with you just a couple of things. So Fred helped secure over $30 million in active transportation grants in the last two years.
1:02:44Of course, with this amazing staff that he has on board, he implemented the first city-wide comprehensive active transportation program in Orange County. Helped Santa Ana become the first city to use the green paint to increase of bike lanes. And I think many of us who are residents have seen these green paintings of our bike lanes. We thank Fred for that and, of course, his amazing staff.
1:03:19And then he also tripled the number of bike lanes. You know, class one, we had a pretty decent network, but our class two literally didn't have much of our class two. And over the years, we've actually tripled that amount. And that would not have happened if we didn't have a leader like Fred. I also wanted to talk about two other important things that we embarked on beyond the Vision Zero, which is the Santa Ana Mobility Plan. But more importantly and and councilman Solorio talked about that You know our vision as it pertains to wanting to move forward towards 21st century and making sure
1:03:43That we have the tools necessary to get us there And he is someone early on when we talked about wanting to make sure that we look at having a dark fiber network or fiber network period He was excited. He loves big ideas and big visions and it's unfortunate that he won't be here to see that but what we need to understand it was someone like him that was willing to take those kinds of risk and someone like him that was willing to look at those ideas and when you look at these kinds of ideas or big dreams sometimes
1:04:22some of us will think this may not come true but obviously when you're able to to to share those ideas and you get a city council and a staff to buy into those and certainly we're a little slow we're going to get there we're going to see more transformation and that's that that that's coming into wanting to thank you for that and then lastly the smart santa anna something that i consider as your baby right the smart santa anna is again being able to how are we going to be able to capitalize to make sure that we're able to maintain our roads you know with our deferred maintenance
1:04:58but more importantly, how are we going to be able to pay for all these active transportation investments and infrastructure? Most of our investments in infrastructure come from grant funds. And so, you know, having a different opportunity to look at a different fee structure to help maintain and sustain a program like Smart 10 Anna, when we do move forward in that direction, is going to be a game changer for the city of Santa Anna. And those are just a couple of things that Fred really did here in his short time.
1:05:33But more importantly, I think the commitment that he made to making sure that we're able to provide a space for our residents to feel safe when they walk and bike was probably the biggest accomplishment that we've had in our public works department when we talk about a lasting change and being able to put plans together to making sure that the 54% or so residents that don't have access to a personal vehicle here in this community will be able to walk or bike to get onto a bus or to school in a safe manner.
1:06:06you've we've seen the roundabouts the various other infrastructure you know facilities throughout our city and there's more to come and it's obvious that this is the man behind all of that i'm somebody that has pushed but what i always say that you need champions at all levels you need champions with our grassroots with our residents you need champions at the staff level because they're the ones that are going to implement and facilitate the policies that council set. And so nothing could get done without the right staff on board to make that happen. And it's Fred that has been able to deliver that for this great city of Santa Ana.
1:06:47And so I truly want to thank you because you left a lasting change here in this community. And I will forever be grateful to you. And I certainly understand our residents. So when you see a new street light coming on and you're seeing those improvements, it was because of Fred and his entire staff pushing us in that direction and so you're going to be miss Fred and so I wanted to give you a token of my appreciation on behalf of the residents of this community and my colleagues it's a small gift I put this together not very artistic but just wanted to just share this with you we got you a bike and it's a one-way what obviously you're
1:07:27leaving so you're one way out to out Los Angeles he's very GQ so I got on this very nice bike tie 100% still that you can wear a bike to school week and also a coffee mug that I wanted to share with you and just thank you for the great work that you've done.
1:08:04Fred, maybe you'd like to say a few words? Yeah, very sure. Thank you. I'm really humbled by all your kindness, you know, word of kindness for me. And I, you know, I've been, it's a privilege and honor for the last three and a half years to serve this great city, which I called home for the last three and a half years. And I also need to give all the credit to my staff. They accomplished a whole lot in the last three and a half years, and they worked hard. They're a very talented group of people. and so I want to acknowledge them as well.
1:08:28And with that, as I said, my promise to the council when I started was to leave the agency and the city better than I found it and I hope I fulfilled that. Thank you very much.
1:09:06Thank you.
1:09:21Thank you very much.
1:09:43Thank you.
1:10:08out of closed session please.
1:10:31Mayor, council members, members of the public, we do have a couple items to report out. In the first matter of our workers' compensation appeals matters, the city council unanimously approved a settlement of $29,424 in the first case, the Manriquez case, and in the Lampman case, the city council approved a settlement of $40,952. We do not have reportable action on the other items, but the city manager we'll give you reportable action on the public employee appointment matters.
1:10:35Go ahead, Ms. City Manager. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
1:11:05It is really my pleasure to announce that the City Council has affirmed a couple of my selections for executive offices within the City. I'll start off with for the Office of Chief of Police. The Council affirmed my appointment, and that would be for David Valentin, our Acting Chief, to serve as our permanent chief of police for the city of Santa Ana. Chief.
1:11:10Chief Valentine has 27 years with this department and he's served in virtually all areas of the police department including SWAT commander. He's had 15 years at the management or command level of experience. He's also previously served as chief of police for the Santa Ana Unified School District on loan from our department to the school district. The school district is probably the third largest post agency in California. He's got a host of educational accomplishments that have all prepared him for the office of chief of police. He's a local person raised here in the city of Santa Ana.
1:11:44He got a couple of associate degrees from Santa Ana College, a bachelor's from Fullerton, an MPA from Cal State Fullerton. He's been to the FBI National Academy and a host of other trainings. And frankly, in the short time that I've been here, I've been witness to his leadership skills, and I'm very, very comfortable with disappointment. I want to thank the council for the support and affirming my decision here to serve as our chief. Next, I have made a decision on our next executive director of personnel. And for that, we have no less a candidate.
1:12:25We have a gentleman who is uniquely qualified. He's served 22 years already as a director for a neighboring city. It's a full-service city with fire and police. He comes with a host of experience here. 22 years. He's been through all the cycles, economic cycles, the upturns and the downturns. Again, his education is impeccable. He has a public administration degree, a bachelor's from USC. He's got a master's in business administration with an emphasis on executive leadership from the University of San Diego. He's been to the Harvard Senior Executive Fellows Program recently in 2017,
1:12:54and he also holds a Juris Doctorate from Thomas Jefferson School of Law based out of San Diego. He's got a host of accomplishments. He's very well respected in his field. And so it is my pleasure to announce Mr. Stephen Pham joining us as our Executive Director of Personnel.
1:13:27Thank you.
1:13:46Thank you, Mayor.
1:13:49Thank you very much for that. As we go to consent calendar, I have two speakers. Let me have them both addresses. They're speaking on item 13B. And I'm going to say Elia Teslin followed by Robert Teslin. Please come on down. No, 13B. Go ahead, please.
1:13:52Good evening, Mayor Pulido and respectful Santa Ana City Council. My name is Ilya Tseglin. I kept coming to you almost every year meeting pleading for life of my innocent son Nate Zeglin, kidnapped, removed on the basis of fabricated accusation sent to social services and police by CEO of Orange County Regional Center, Larry Landauer, and his employees.
1:14:17I can tell you that I prepare everything, all my case I submitted to city attorney. I trust her and I see that she saw that we are not guilty. I can tell any public that we are not guilty and prove it, but it's absolutely not decent that me, my family and other family threatened by Orange County Regional Center that if we talk they will prepare
1:14:59and send fabricated report to police to arrest and destroy our families that's what I ask you I know that you can help. You are very intelligent and people who can I trust. And I want to ask the police department to assist me with fair report to save life innocent my son and reunite him with my family.
1:15:40I know that him, Larry Landauer, and director of DDS, they are fabricating report for profiteering, and one day they will come down with legal people who are making the court decision that will serve not people, but this kind of people like Larry Landauer and DDS. Yes. Thank you.
1:16:17where he's been confined for over three, approximately four years now, since 2014, in contempt of the judicial order that was supposed to release him on December 31st, 2013. But who cares that the DDS's petition was denied, an ex-party petition was denied, and he was released. They filed the petition two months later, same related evidence to remove conservatorship, One year and seven months later, after numerous reports and allegations of the conservatee, my brother having seized his EPS, they removed conservatorship using litigative evidence, sealing the trial, using pictures of his genitals to seal the trial.
1:17:17They didn't explain why they did that. And so forth, they removed conservatorship from him, re-litigated evidence, put him in the group home. Now all the accounting agencies, Adult Protective Services and so forth, supposed to, you know, do their job to care about that he's allegedly being physically abused, sexually abused, so forth. But most importantly, psychotropically abused, public defender, we know that's the Orange County Board of Supervisors' fault. St. Anna, we had before, there were a couple times when the police did cooperate and we did come in and he did report seizures in EPS.
1:17:57Of course, police are not doctors and so forth. But as I stated, alluded to before, it could be arranged to law enforcement to allow for an individual who either needs to be seen by a doctor or medical experts to enforce this because obviously the group home doesn't allow, we're alleging the group home doesn't allow even any other visitors. and more importantly, the most important visitors would be medical experts who could evaluate him and be able to present. A doctor is a judge on medical issues, so present the case, and therefore he has to be released. He was released on three writs of habeas corpus.
1:18:28He's now confined in a group home instead of a developmental center. So that's what I would ask your range-free police department to act as law enforcement in an unusual situation. Robert, thank you. Thank you very much.
1:19:05Okay, now I'm going to bring it back to Council. Mayor Pro Tem, do you have items you wish to comment on for the consent calendar?
1:19:19Yes, Mr. Mayor. Just very quickly, I just want to indicate that I'm a no on 25E and a no on 25F, and I would like to pull 25L.
1:19:26All right. Any other items from members of the City Council? If not, I'll entertain a motion.
1:19:35So moved.
1:19:41Second. Second by Benavidez. Those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. The opposed motion carries. Please, Mayor Potem, the one item you had.
1:19:43Yes, Mr. Mayor, this is, and I think it's the right one. As I'm looking, was it 25E? Did I say 25L?
1:19:50I think you said 25L.
1:19:57It is correct. It is the agreement for the continuation of the Santa Ana Ways Free Days public education campaign in compliance with AB 939 and AB 1826. Definitely very supportive, and I just wanted to, I'm not sure if we have the appropriate staff here on this item. Mr. City Manager in regards to the Santa Ana Waste-Free Days at the Discovery Science Center. Do we have the appropriate staff? Yes, we do. Just very quickly, definitely very supportive in knowing we need the education. And this agreement begins January 1 through December 30, 2020 for $135,000. For a total agreement amount of $405,000.
1:20:00I just had a quick question as it pertains to those at the Discovery Science, because I know we're still doing the free days. But in regards to the education to zero waste and the programs that they're doing for recycling, are we keeping track of the residents that they're actually providing the education to?
1:20:41Yes, we do get quarterly reports from the Discovery Science Center.
1:21:03And is it possible, possibly if we can get those just to just to make sure and not maybe quarterly, but maybe once a year so we can see exactly how many kids and maybe where, you know, what what areas they're coming from? because I think when you look at the central part of our city, we're looking at recycling and wanting to move towards
1:21:05educating not only our residents but our students. I think those are the most difficult to serve. And I'm not sure how many of them are actually going to our free days. Do they even know these programs even exist? Are we partnering up also with the school district to provide information that we are partnering up with the Discovery Science Center to give this kind of education. So I just want to make sure we get our best bang for our buck and wanting to make sure that we have our San Diego High School District on board. But more importantly, that we're able to outreach to our residents throughout the community,
1:21:32specifically maybe in the central part of our city. Those that may not go to the Discovery Science, they don't know that those programs exist. I just think it's important for us to do whatever we possibly can to outreach to those specific parents and students.
1:22:04So thank you for those comments.
1:22:20Councilman Salodio? On that same point, I had the opportunity today to attend a luncheon where Supervisor Anderdos spoke at and some representatives from the Discovery Science Center was there. And I raised with them similar questions and concerns. Just on the practical side, the free days for Santa Ana residents at the Cube are on Tuesdays which I think for the summer months is a decent day that's workable but I think on those months where those Tuesdays are school days that's not really a good day to be offering free days I prefer that kids go to to school
1:22:23and learn and you know follow the curriculum that they're supposed to so I kind of pushed them to think about different schedules that can be good and premium for us. We know that they gotta balance it out with when they have capacity etc. But I do think there is a better option. And then on the whole per the staff report there's about 10,000 residents a year that benefit from this program on these free days. The average thus is about 900 per free Tuesday. And I said look you know you're given you know that free Tuesday in February. I
1:23:01And on a related note on where they're coming from, I worry, for example, that some of these Santa Ana residents are unincorporated Santa Ana, which is different than those in zip codes like 9-2-7-0-6 or five or one or other. So it's been a great ongoing relationship, but we can make it better. And let's work on those reports and on other schedules. Thank you so much. Absolutely.
1:23:41I think we have a motion and a second. Do we? If not, I'll entertain one.
1:24:08I. Second.
1:24:14All right. Those in favor, please say aye. Aye. The opposed motion carries. I believe that takes to the business calendar.
1:24:15Mr. McDermott, can we also make a motion that we excuse Councilman Saltinajero?
1:24:23Okay.
1:24:29Second.
1:24:30Those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. The opposed motion carries. Item 55A, I would entertain a motion. Move the item.
1:24:30Second.
1:24:38Those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. 55B, I'd entertain a motion.
1:24:39Mr. Mayor, just with comment, I just want to thank. Oh, yep.
1:24:46This one actually requires a presentation. It's a grant-funded project, and it does require a verbal presentation.
1:24:50The MSRC, yes.
1:24:55Okay. Go ahead.
1:24:57Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, Council.
1:25:03I'm John Aguilar, the Facility and Fleet Manager, and I'm honored to be here tonight to share an opportunity, a funding opportunity, to help clean up the air in Santa Ana, or improve the air. Got it.
1:25:10Okay. We'll try to get right through this. MSRC's mission is to invest funds generated by registration on city vehicles, I'm sorry, on vehicles in the state. And those funds are used to improve air quality by programs. And we'll talk about those. Some of those will involve vehicles, trucks, buses.
1:25:29MSRC has decided there are significant air quality challenges, and they are looking, they're concerned about the ozone as it impacts, it creates respiratory illnesses, and they're concerned in the next few years it is going to get worse, not better.
1:25:56MSRC has targeted 45% reduction by the year 2023. And in doing so, that's pretty ambitious, but they believe they can do it with the incentives they're going to provide to the city, where we can go with zero or near zero emission vehicles.
1:26:15Air Quality Management Plan, developed in 2016, has these measures in it. and means that we are the city that we are. With subvention funds of $400,000, we qualify for electric charging stations, additional electric vehicles, and funding for that area.
1:26:34The MSRC is partnering with AQMD and the City of San An to improve quality, implement high-priority AQMP strategies, which include zero and near zero.
1:26:56the MSRC has received incentive funding for Santa Ana at the local partnership program. And this PowerPoint we had, it was part of the criteria for the grant to show it to you. That's why we're here. Are there any other questions?
1:27:12Yeah, we have a Councillor Vince Armiento, please. Thank you for that presentation. I'll be brief. Look, I think this partnership is a great idea. we have an acute problem here in the city because it's an older city that we're dealing now with amending the general plan but as you know and all of us on staff know this city was developed basically with a lot of incompatibilities within it so you have some very heavy industrial right up against some residential you know to the extent that we also dig down a little deeper on the way we do land use planning approval of permits for businesses that are coming
1:27:28in I know there's a chrome plating plant that's coming into Ward 1 it's right up against the neighborhood tomorrow night Madison Park neighborhood Association is going to be addressing it there's been a letter drafted on my behalf to a QMD and I know the mayor served on it for a while he's no longer on that board but to the extent that they're more receptive to concerns of communities and neighborhoods in our cities in our city where we have these where we have these potentially impactful industries right in neighborhoods right across the street from an elementary school near a high school where kids play and the
1:28:07particulates in the air are very very easy to read the problem is is that AQMD has a real tough time coming down here and taking readings and giving us findings on that so I hope that this relationship will establish you know better communication. I know that they have some criteria for us to be able to have them qualify and have them eligible to come down and take readings for us, but there's a lot of concerns because in communities like ours that are older, these air quality and contaminant issues are very real and we'd like them to be more receptive. So I'm glad that we're establishing a
1:28:44relationship with them, but I'd like them to be more receptive to the extent they can to our clients.
1:29:18We work really well with them and we're very interested in what they have to offer. They regulate our generators and they regulate our boilers so we work with them continually on all the facilities and the vehicles. Thank you. Thank you. Mayor
1:29:22Pro Town. Thank you Mr. Mayor. I just want to thank Francisco and his staff for moving forward with the MSRC to leverage and match our funds for the electrical vehicles. That was our conversation from last month and just want to disclose for the record that I sit on the MSRC board on behalf of the Southern California region on behalf of SCAG and have had the great fortune for the past three years to sit on this committee on behalf of the South Coast Air Quality Management District. And we have a lot of funds that we've been giving out not only to the public sector, but to the private sector.
1:29:37And so this is just a matching component of that program that we have with cities and counties, but we also have opportunities for the private sector. So I just wanted to make mention, this is actually due for our next round. It's closing in early March, and so I would just like to just inform our business community that if you are out there listening and you want to make sure that you move towards more green energy and looking at opportunities to transform your vehicles into electrical vehicles or C&G. We have that opportunity for us.
1:30:13The city in the past has received various MSRC funds, and so this is not the first time. And I just would encourage us to continue to leverage as much resources as we possibly can. And the MSRC is one here in Orange County where we haven't leveraged those funds. The Orange County Transportation Authority has been able to do so. Many of you that travel to Angel Stadium, you know, using the train station or during the Orange County Fairgrounds and the bus transportation that they provide, actually the MSRC gives the Orange County Transportation Authority the funding to make that happen.
1:30:53And so we have a lot of opportunity and just wanting to thank our staff again for moving forward and leveraging this opportunity that I'm certain I'll be voting on in a couple of months.
1:31:29Please make a motion.
1:31:38And I'll move this item forward. Second.
1:31:39We have two seconds. The clerk can choose. With that, those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed, motion carries. 65A.
1:31:41Mr. Mayor, I'll move the item very quickly here, and it's just a general plan update for the advisory group. And I just wanted to acknowledge where the Candida go. She actually left, but just the report was very comprehensive. Just wanting to thank them for putting that report together because we hadn't really seen what the advisory committee was reviewing and what they were doing for the past 14 meetings. And so it was a really great report, and I thank her for providing that. So receiving file? Receiving file. Is there a second? Motion to approve.
1:31:52Those in favor, please say aye.
1:32:22No.
1:32:26It's optional. Those opposed, motion carries. 65B.
1:32:28Any motion on that?
1:32:33Motion to approve.
1:32:36Those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Those approved, motion carries. 75A. This is time and place for a public hearing to consider a Planning Commission appeal on the Hampton Inn Hotel net development project. It was an impasse decision to change zoning in the district from 2056-2058 North Bush Street. It's a CUP 2129 North Main Street and variance number for 2115-2123
1:32:37and 2129 North Main. We have several speakers, quite a few actually. So let's go ahead and start with Mr. William Diaz followed by Jess Evans, please.
1:33:12And after Jess Evans, Alan Vandervoort.
1:33:35Good evening Santa Ana City Council. May I begin?
1:33:46Good evening Santa Ana City Council and distinguished guests. My name is William Diaz and I reside in the proposed impacted area on Bush Street. During the last Planning Commission meeting, Kevin Coleman depicted the existing parking lot on Main Street as a mecca for deviant behavior and narcotics ingestion. However, when seeking information on crimes in the area, the San Antonio Police Department referred me to a website called CrimeMapping.com, which paints a very different picture than the developer so passionately led us to believe.
1:33:53According to the site, there has not been a single reported crime in the existing parking lot since the date of the last Planning Commission meeting. However, while focusing on Main Street, in my search, the crimes listed such as vehicle theft, burglaries, assaults, and impaired driving are all within feet of established hotels on Main Street. The addition of yet another hotel on Main Street does not solve these crime issues and in fact may do the opposite and exacerbate the currently existing crimes in this area. At the continuance hearing, Kevin Coleman invited guest speakers who benefited from the sale of their businesses.
1:34:22For this proposed project, they spoke about issues that do not exist. they do not live in the area. Their attempt to appeal to the pathos of the audience was rehearsed and self-serving. In the MND it states developers used Urban Land Institute shared parking analysis analysis to reach a required number of parking spots on several acres of land when in fact the shared park parking analysis documents that many more parking spaces are needed than the developer alleges. The discrepancy of methodology in obtaining these figures may work in favor of the developer when hidden deeply in
1:34:53documents but when made aware the City Council should be compelled to order an environmental impact report to reach a true statistic of what is needed to effectively meet all the needs of all impacted parties additionally the city's master plan of arterial highways currently designates main street as an arterial highway that is planned to expand to six lanes I respectfully ask the plan the members of the City Council if the proposed expansion of Main Street is being taken into account as you consider the approval of this new hotel project.
1:35:26The way I see it, even if there was already room for the hotel to be erected in a tiny parcel on 2129 on Main Street, how would approving the new building not hinder the city's master plan to expand this arterial highway from four lanes to six?
1:35:58If we were the...
1:36:13Just go ahead and wrap up. Give us your final thought.
1:36:15Lastly, I'm appealing to you to consider the needs of... Oh, excuse me, my bad. This is where I'm going to close it up. I represent the many unheard voices in my community, including those who use the 92 stalls for visitation of family members and local established businesses. The ripple effect this project will create will surpass not just my community, but also hardworking families who hold jobs in the area, whether it be by choice or circumstance. Not considering these facts will be an in-ducerous and heedless action on our community. Thank you. Jesse Evans?
1:36:18Hello. My name is Jess Evans. I represent everyone at residence, the residents of 2057 Bush Street. I understand your reasons for wanting this hotel project. It is perfectly placed to be at max capacity consistently. The hotel will be close to the best Orange County house to offer, like Disneyland, Angel Stadium, the Ducks, the Mall, the Bowers Museum, the Annahean Convention Center, the Discovery Center, the Orange Circle, downtown Santa Ana, and the Beach. Believe me, I thoroughly understand this. I've been in Orange County my whole life. And how important this project is for Santa Ana, the City Council will get rid of some bills,
1:37:00approximately what we've heard, a million dollars on the property sale, and collect roughly a million dollars in taxes a year, every year thereafter. I understand how vital this money is for Santa Ana, especially now, just like the value of our home is vital to my family. By removing the two vintage homes across the street, this project will affect the value of my home directly.
1:37:37By building a seven-story hotel next door, this will affect the value of our home directly. If the city of Santa Ana is going to protect its financial interests, by going ahead with this project, I am going to respectfully insist that you buy our home. If the project gets approved tonight, I would ask the city to keep the light pollution out of our neighborhood, as well as the sign and its effects out of our neighborhood. Be as consider as you can with this project because you've been encroached on the family, all the families that live on Bush Street.
1:37:59And actually, thank you for paying attention to me because watching you guys was a little offensive. I know you guys are here all the time. When people are talking to you and giving you their hearts, this isn't familiar to us. and when you're looking down and talking that's extremely disrespectful that was actually offensive thank you
1:38:28alan vanderpoort followed by tanya olano
1:38:45good evening i know this is really it comes down to it's just money as i get that but from my perspective there's little regard for the surrounding businesses which i own a number the number of the buildings and the businesses occupy also the public and also the your contingencies the contingency over over 100 cars a day use that lot they rotate in and out and there's at least 70 cars parked in there pretty much all the time there are where are they going to park you've not made any provisions for that even though you've discussed it a few times there's
1:38:52still no provisions for nobody's presented any provisions for alternate alternate parking because Because of the north and south freeway on ramps on Main Street, there's also three to two lanes abruptly in front of the museum. There's been an enormous congestion, not to mention traffic accidents and injuries. I've seen a number of them. On January 22nd, the planning department had serious issues with three of the requests for variances by the developer,
1:39:23And they were actually voted down four of the two. That hasn't been brought up, but that's exactly what happened in the planning meeting. And it doesn't have any weight here. Also, four of my commercial tenants depend on public parking to sustain their businesses. And if you remove the parking, they will potentially lose their businesses. And I will probably have an unrentable building that's worth at least a half a million dollars to me. It will be unrentable. because of these issues I urge you to disapprove the building of the hotel on
1:39:51this site thank you thank you sir Tanya Olano followed by Diane there's no last
1:40:22name hello I'm Tonja Olano and I am representing Hollybrook Senior Living of Orange we're about half a block away from the proposed Hampton Inn we are not opposed per se to the Hampton being built there our problem is the parking we have anywhere from 80 to 120 residents depending on how full we are they all depend on family members coming to visit home health personnel coming to visit
1:40:29hospice workers coming to visit and it has been well founded that loneliness is one of the biggest issues that the seniors face. If their family and friends can't get in to see them because they can't park, this is going to directly impact how long they may live because it leads to depression, it leads to anxiety, and other issues that are a big problem for them. We were at the December meeting when it was continued, and they asked that, you know,
1:41:06parking be looked into and some plan for dealing with parking for businesses such as ourself that would be impacted and neighbors that would be impacted by the loss of this parking when they had the the continuance the they they didn't even address this issue really when I spoke to or sent an email to Selena requesting information on what was going to happen they basically said no study was done because it was the holidays this doesn't make sense to me they knew it was the holidays in December when they did the continuance if that was an
1:41:44issue they should have continued it for longer if they needed to to deal with this so I respectfully ask that this study that they requested in December be done and see if there is not some agreement they could come to find some way to still have some parking for some of the local area.
1:42:25Thank you. Thank you very much. Diane?
1:42:44Followed by Ellen Diamond.
1:42:53Hello. Thank you. I wanted to bring up, first and foremost, there was an article in the LA Times and daily pilot that was talking about parking issues, talked about our city and the surrounding cities, and in it it mentioned that manager Gerardo Moet, who I believe is no longer in that position, it's held by Raul Godinas, was going to do an internal review and it was advised on April 14th of 2017 of the city's residential... Ma'am, can you speak closer to the microphone? Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, no problem. It's okay. Of the city's residential parking program and how they are addressing the residents' complaints.
1:43:02City's parking policy continues to put neighbors against neighbors, creating tensions that should not be there. Economic issues are causing families to move back in with families, compounding the parking issues in Santa Ana. Giving a hotel or any big development like that special favors for parking and not having adequate parking adversely affects surrounding neighborhoods with higher traffic through residential areas, putting pedestrians and children at play at higher risk for injury. Existing parking lot is used now at times by children and families as a safe, open space.
1:43:46I also want to commend Peter Katz for his work. And he was awarded tonight for basically showing the importance of open space for the families and Santa Ana. And even though this is just a parking lot on the corner of a residential area, there isn't a lot of open space in that particular area for kids to play safely. Part of that parking lot is used for that. We put a big hotel in increased traffic. The kids will be pushed back to the streets. And then there's going to be issues with cars racing up and down residential neighborhoods. There will be no safe space. So please reconsider. Thank you.
1:44:29Thank you, Diane. Ellen Diamond, followed by Max Rell.
1:45:08Rellanos? Ellen?
1:45:14Hi, my name is Ellen Diamond. I live at 202 West 19th Street. I've lived in Santa Ana about 20 years. So we've had several of these meetings and the issue of parking always comes up. And every time the applicant says, you know, that this is not his problem, it's not his fault. And he's right. It's not his fault. It's the city's fault. at some point the city decided to sell the parking lot because it was even though it's been heavily used ever since it was paved it was decided that it was underutilized property which means I guess the city is not making any money
1:45:26from it so the decision was made to sell the lot without making any provisions for the people who park there. And, you know, we talk about some idyllic future where there'll be street cars everywhere and we'll all take public transportation and we won't need cars anymore. But just requiring fewer parking spaces for new developments doesn't make people magically give up their cars. And providing less public parking doesn't make people magically give up their cars. These are physical cars that exist now and they need a place to go.
1:46:04And so by not providing them a place to go, you're being poor caretakers of the city. You're being poor caretakers for the residents, for the business people who already are there, and for the customers who come to this city to spend money in those businesses. I agree, a hotel is a good idea. Is this the best location for it? You know, I'm not convinced. Thank you. Max.
1:46:45Max.
1:47:13Followed by David Elliott at MPJ.
1:47:19Good evening, Council Members. Max Rollins with Alston and Byrd on behalf of Hollybrook Senior Living. My firm has submitted a few letters for the record. one of them last week was addressed to this council I'd like to briefly summarize a few points but I think it's important to start as we heard that Hollybrook is not opposed to this project in principle but as proposed it's severely under parked as the council knows parking has been an issue for this project since day one and as you've heard tonight and we'll probably still hear the community has come forth and has been clear that this insufficient
1:47:27parking will cause significant impacts for my client it's beyond just business impacts it's also health impacts for the residents that live there your planning Commission heard all this and declined to approve the project no doubt in large part because of this parking issue and when the purchase and sale agreement came before this council last year staff assured the community that all quote required parking would be provided obviously this hasn't happened and and the applicant is now asking you to approve a parking variance for 33 less spots than the code requires.
1:48:06But the variance must be denied because the proposed findings are insufficient and because valid hardship has not been provided.
1:48:41And while the applicant implied that it's economically infeasible to provide code-required parking, and to be clear, that's not a valid reason for a variance, there's no economic feasibility analysis for the additional parking to show that it's actually infeasible and finally as your Planning Commission also acknowledged the MND that was prepared for this project is deficient one pertinent issue is that the MND provides no analysis of the parking deficiencies and the secondary environmental impacts that those cause this is supported by much testimony that was at the Planning Commission hearing
1:48:51some of it you're hearing tonight and this all creates a fair argument that there are significant impacts and under CEQA case law that is enough to make the MND inadequate at bottom based on these issues your your community is simply asking that this council require more parking Thanks very much for your time.
1:49:29Thank you very much.
1:49:50Dave Elliott, followed by PJ Hakkari.
1:49:53Okay, I'm not going to get any applause, but that's okay.
1:49:59So, Mayor Pro Tem and members of the council, Dave Elliott, on behalf of the Chamber of Commerce, we're in support of this project. Some of the things that we're not going to talk about parking, we want to talk about economic development. We look at this project as something that would enhance our city, especially the arterial in North Main. We'll enhance the businesses that are there, the Bowers Museum, the Discovery Cube. Brings in at least 100 jobs. And as your chamber, we're concerned about workforce development. We're concerned about revenues, tax revenues for the city. And, of course, attraction of new business into the city.
1:50:04So that's two or three reasons why we're in support of this project. Plus, I don't know if you've ever stayed at Hampton Inn. It's a good project. It's a Hilton property, and those are usually very good properties. And aesthetically, we think that this is a good project as well. And I think a couple of the other organizations, the historic group with the houses and things, they, I think, have improved this as well. So on behalf of the chamber, we're in support of this project. Thanks.
1:50:40Thank you, Dave. PJ Hakkari, followed by Tommy Munui.
1:51:16Thank you. Thank you for allowing me to speak. My name is PJ Jahangiri. I'm here along with my wife, Neda. We own the properties that we're selling to the developer for the hotel project. My wife and I spent approximately a year rehabbing and fixing these older magnificent historic properties. Our intention was to keep these properties for a long time. One of the very basic reasons why we sold the properties is because of the parking space. It's unsupervised, unmetered, unpaid for. And when we applied with the city of Santa Ana for business uses,
1:51:24They told us we cannot use any of the spaces in the public parking for our off-street parking requirements. The very reason that people are here today asking for a subsidized parking, Hollybrook, the business across the street, apartment building, all of them are lacking required off-street parking, one of which we were denied business licenses when we had potential tenants come to us. We have lost tenants from the residential properties because of the activities that goes on in the parking lot. drug activities. I've sent many notes to our representative, Mr Solario, and I've
1:51:58come to the city before filing complaint. I've gone to Public Works. When I went to Public Works to talk about this parking lot that is unsupervised and they were telling us that it's in a bigger project, they want to sell this and develop it. So that's one of the reasons why we stole the project and I think you need to see that most of the people are in favor of this hotel. They just don't want to lose the subsidized parking. Thank you. Thank you. Tommy?
1:52:36And then followed by John Coyle. Hello councilman. My wife was supposed to be here but she called me last minute and I was at the hospital and she told me She's battling cancer right now, lung cancer. So we're the ones that owned RMB escrow. We're at 2119. We're next to the parking lot. When we first moved there, it was an open lot with grass, and it was fenced off. Never had any problems. I took care of my area, kept it clean and everything. Everything was fine. When that parking lot opened, things started happening. I have to handle the homeless. And like one gentleman said about crime around there, it's what you don't see.
1:53:10and we see it all the time I mean I've worried about my wife all the time I had someone attack one of my employees I have to always have the homeless leave I gotta tell me get there they're going to the restroom all over my building I mean I feel for the people that want but the people that park there are people that live there that's a public parking it's not for people just a park there and they can go home and kick back or even the people that work they have their staff parking there. It's a public parking. You do your business and you leave. And I didn't want to sell my building because
1:53:51since my wife got cancer, she said, you know, we got to move on. So to me, this is great for the city. I mean, I grew up here. I've been here for 61 years in Santa Island and I've seen this place grow. It's in a perfect area. That's why I got that property because it was all around all the freeways. I did a lot of good business. But putting that hotel in place is going to be great because it's going to bring a lot of revenue. It's going to give people a lot of jobs. And I look at that because my grandfather felt, he was a contractor here in Santa Ana when he was in the 60s and 50s. He built a lot of this whole city here.
1:54:24And he said, let everything grow. And to me, this is a chance to let the city grow now. Thank you.
1:54:55Thank you, sir. John Coyle, followed by Raymond Teyes.
1:55:00Good evening, Mayor. pro tem, members of council. My name is John Coyle. I'm one of the owners of the Palm Court project, which is adjacent to and just to the south of the project in question. For many years we've enjoyed using the free parking up the street for overflow parking, but we realized that's not our property. It's not really free parking. It was a temporary land hold so we're we're on behalf of myself and my partners we're I'm here to
1:55:13express our support of building the hotel on the property I think it would be a good benefit for the city it will come as some loss to our to ourselves of having that overflow parking but I think the advantages to the city
1:55:50overrule our personal advantages that we might obtain. So thank you very much.
1:56:12Thank you. Raymond? Raymond Thais, followed by Mr. Dresser.
1:56:21I want to thank you all for letting me come and give my voice on this. As far as the Hampton Inn goes, I believe that would be a beautiful improvement for that area, and it would be a great place to have my family and friends, when they come to visit us, stay rather than going down to Dyer and the 55 Freeway to find a decent place to stay. And it's reasonable. The Hamptons aren't outpriced. You know, it's not like going to Beverly Hills or, you know, South Coast Plaza or something like that. It's just a beautiful environment when you go to one of these Hamptons. I've stayed in them many times.
1:56:41And I think that, you know, everything I heard here before I got up to talk and before we started all this, everyone wants improvement and beauty and betterment. This is going to better that whole Triangle area. Jose, if you don't mind me calling anybody first name, Raymond's mine. This will benefit that whole area. The reason there's no parking there is because people that bought the businesses knew there wasn't any parking there. So they just didn't give a damn. Then the grass area that was there, no one cared about that. Parking was nothing. Then you get people moving in. People not considering about money.
1:57:15Then they rent out their garages. They rent out this. The people sleeping in their cars. I ran across a couple last night. They're sleeping in the car. Young couple. Beautiful young couple. and I said, my wife said what are you guys doing? and he said, well somebody tried to break into your car and I said, oh really, it's parked right in front of my house and so I shined the light down there and there's a guy running down towards where the Hamptons is going to be and I said, what the heck, you know and I said, well what are you guys doing out here and he said, I just got off of work and me and my girlfriend, we sleep in the car
1:57:51and he's a clean cut Mexican kid, you know, just like me but I'm a little older, of course but anyway, so I said, well where do you live otherwise? He said, well, in that house, when the people get out and go to work, then we go in there and we bathe and sleep during the day. And I work nights and my girlfriend, she's not working right now. So as far as the parking goes, you know, it's been a problem forever. And it's not only in Santa Ana. I used to live in Newport Beach, you know. And this is a problem there. Parking, you get out of there on a summer morning or summer afternoon,
1:58:23and as soon as you pull out, someone pulls in and takes your parking. And those are, those, you know, very wealthy houses down there. I lived there for 20 years and we always had a parking problem. But we lived with it. And to expect to push that on something that's going to beautify this area
1:58:54and make it what it should be, I think that it's a big mistake after hearing everyone talk, all the different groups who are here. This is what they want, a beautiful place to stay. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you, Mr. Raymond.
1:59:12Followed by Mr. Dresser.
1:59:24And then Kevin Coleman.
1:59:28Oh, he... My apologies, you've requested to be the last speaker.
1:59:30Hi, I'm a resident of the Park San Diego neighborhood, and I'm here in opposition of the proposed development at 2525 North Main Street, which is at the intersection of Main and Edgewood. As you're all aware, there's a proposal for a 500-plus unit high-density apartment project to go in there. and the Park Santiago residents are 96% categorically opposed to the project, the zoning change.
1:59:36Mr. Dresser, this is item 75A.
2:00:06Hang on.
2:00:08Okay.
2:00:09And the general plan amendment. However, as a resident of Park Santiago and not being a NIMBY, not wanting to appear to be a NIMBY, We are aware of the potential for future development, and progress is going to march on. And there are projects and proposals that do make sense and are reasonable and appropriate, such as the Hampton Inn. I've spoken with several other Park San Diego neighborhood residents who share the same feeling as I do,
2:00:11that this development is reasonable and appropriate given its location and the need that the city has for high quality hotel accommodations in the north end of town. Unlike 2525 North Main Street which we believe is unreasonable and an inappropriate use of the land given the cumulative effect of all of the other 1700 plus high density apartment units that are being proposed for the north end of Main Street
2:00:47and the north end of Santa Ana. So I'm not opposed to responsible appropriate land use such as the Hampton Inn. However, I do oppose irresponsible and inappropriate land use such as 2525 North
2:01:20Main Street development. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Dresser. Followed by up next is Alex and then Carlos Castaneda. And then our last speaker will be Mr. Kevin Coleman. Good evening Alex Tabrizi with Arc Engineering. I am the traffic and parking consultant for the project. I'm just here to let you know I'm here to answer any questions you might have. We did a traffic study for the project and a parking study as well. Just two main things I want to touch on on the traffic. Sir, can you speak closer to the microphone? On the traffic, there is a question or there is an issue that's being brought up about Bush Street
2:01:39and increase of traffic on Bush Street. I just want to let you know, currently there is an opening from Bush Street to Main Street, which is used as a cut-through path for vehicles getting onto the freeway. So instead of taking Main Street, you're taking Bush Street, going through the site, and then going onto the freeway. The proposed project will actually have only emergency access on Bush Street, so it would actually reduce the cut-through traffic that is going through Boot Street right now. So that's one thing. On the parking, the parking analysis that we did,
2:02:15we looked at parking in two different ways. One was based on City of Santa Ana code and there is a deficiency based on the code. The second way we did it was the Urban Land Institute. So that's using the City of Santa Ana parking rates but with the Urban Land Institute model. Now this is a nationally recognized model that is for parking analysis. It takes into account the interaction between land uses and also a mode of travel and it's based on actual studies of similar sites. This is not something we've done only for this project. We've done it for many projects in various jurisdictions. The study has been reviewed
2:02:44by the city staff and also from what I understand peer-reviewed by another consultant that is also in the field of traffic and parking and has been deemed adequate. And again, if there are any questions I'm here to help answer that thank you thank you Carlos Castaneda
2:03:18hi my name is Carlos Castaneda I live on a 2026 North Bush so basically the concern that I have it is on this project they're gonna be closing the alleyway on a north bush which what that means we're not gonna have access on Bush Street so that by closing the alleyway when any emergency vehicle comes going north on the alleyway between Bush and Main basically the cars on the on the ones that actually have the garage on the alleyway they
2:03:44won't be able to get out right away. If any emergency happened on the alleyway like any cables from the electricity break or they have to put a tower to work on the electrical cables, we're going to be stuck you know on without going out. No vehicle is going to be able to go in or out and also as they mentioned the problem with the homeless that we have is you know humongous in the area so by closing the alleyway we were actually going to be and they're going to be creating a nice beautiful house for homeless people and also a
2:04:21dumping ground like the problems that we have here in the city of Santa Ana and many alleyways and also there is an issue that has been going on for probably five six years on 913 East Pine there is always homeless in there you can actually see him on the satellite so we don't want that to happen on Bush Street so if they're gonna be building the hotel we need access I mean we need to actually get the access to the alleyway or also the property and at 2034 North Bush it is a property they used to the land used to own by the city of
2:05:01Santa Ana, they convert that property into low-income families.
2:05:40And that property, the city gave it to the developer for free.
2:05:46Basically, the condition was that that property was going to be grounded for 50 years. So let's say in the future, some other developer comes with the same proposal as they actually have to build something big and they wanted to buy several properties My neighbors and several other properties won't be able to sell because that property on 2034.
2:05:53Mr. Castaneda, if you could please wrap up.
2:06:152034, they need access on the alleyway. If they leave the access on the alleyway going north on Bush, I'll be perfectly fine.
2:06:16Thank you, Mr. Castaneda. And was that the issue that you mentioned, 913 East Pine?
2:06:26Yes, homeless. That's an issue that has been for so many years.
2:06:31We're going to take care of it. Thank you very much.
2:06:35Thank you.
2:06:37Next, final speaker, Mr. Kevin Coleman.
2:06:38Thank you, Council, for letting me speak tonight. I want to first off thank the people that have come out and watched our democracy actually work. People have a voice, and they get to say it. The issue that was just spoke, the alley does have an agreement to have an opening for the emergency vehicles. We're structuring that with the city so that if there was an incident in the alley, it's able to be opened. And currently the trash truck will also be going through the alley onto our property and back out to Main.
2:06:49The issue of traffic through Bush will be reduced because there will be no entrance or exits onto the residential property. It only goes out to Main Street.
2:07:22I think realistically, I would like to just answer any questions you guys might have. I have a course in favor of the project. I've spent two and a half years to get here, and I would like to continue and develop something in our city that will be a benefit to all the residents and the people of our city.
2:07:38Great. Thank you, Mr. Coleman. I'm going to bring this back to the mayor and council, but first off, I'd like to see if the planning staff available for a presentation to answer any questions. Does the council want a presentation?
2:08:00Don't see any? Councilman Solorio.
2:08:16Yes, thank you, Mayor Potem and council members. I think it was about this time last year there was city council action related to this item,
2:08:18and I was fairly new back on the council and Council Member Vegas was fairly new to the council and I had some questions about the parking because I had great concerns and so there was a majority of us that did continue it for two weeks and I know I was heavily scolded by folks on the dais as well as the developer and others that all this work has been done, how dare I continue it. But it's my responsibility to review these things and feel comfortable with it.
2:08:30And I've said various times that the kinds of concerns and complaints I get from residents, particularly from my ward, are public safety issues overall, number two, homelessness, and number three, parking. And I've said for a long time, and hopefully in this year's budget we can begin to address it, part of what we need is a citywide parking needs assessment and management plan. Because what happens is we have this hodgepodge approach when we deal with some of these parking issues, and it's not a smart way to do it.
2:09:07I was on the city council some years ago before I went to the state assembly, and I do remember when that lot was just a dirt lot with maybe patches of grass. We did pave it as overflow largely for the Bowers, but it wasn't ever meant really to be a temporary, I mean it was never really meant to be a permanent lot. So we continued it with a commitment that I had of working with staff and individuals on both sides of this issue of addressing this parking thing. And we have made some headway and the project hasn't been fully approved, which is why you haven't seen these new parking additions or changes.
2:09:40But, for example, on Buffalo, because there's enough room there, public works staff actually has mapped out and generally agreed to, I think it's about a dozen meter parking spots there on Buffalo. There's the room for that, and there's a commitment to do that. Number two, on 20th and Main, to the immediate north of the motel there, there's a free parking lot there. A lot of folks don't know just because you pass right by it, the signage isn't good. We've got to improve the signage so people do know it's a free parking lot and it's public. It's there, and that's an opportunity.
2:10:18Number three is I think some of the individuals that park here really are using it out of convenience, or unfortunately it's related to homelessness, and we're addressing that through other actions. But some of these folks actually walk far off and work in another business. And so we then also got to look at, is there appropriate parking where those businesses are? Because, you know, we want parking close to where these businesses are. And then finally, I know on the hotel itself, to really create a win-win situation, I said, hey, you know, the reality, like most motels are, they're not full 100% of the time.
2:10:59and based on when check-in and check-out is, there's room and capacity in the parking lot. I said, hey, would you be willing to, as you do your automated parking, because that's how the world's moving, can it be essentially accessible? Meaning that businesses across the street or others, that they can, you know, in the middle of the day, pull a ticket, park there, have a coffee or do something across the street, and then pay on their way out. And they looked at that and they've made, I think, a conditional approval to do that because it makes economic sense and it's a practical thing and technology-wise it's doable.
2:11:39So we've made some headway in it. You know, maybe that isn't sufficient. I've committed to continue to explore this issue more, both for that region, the broader northern San Ana area, but also citywide. I would also tell you that I do have heavy concerns with this 2525, the activities in the main place and surrounding areas. The cumulative impact is real. And we've got to figure out just what does this all mean and how do we keep people moving? How do we park things well? How do we keep the quality there? And so don't think that just because we're taking this action tonight that we've checked off this project, we're done.
2:12:16There's no more parking and traffic issues. There's more work to be done. but I do want to commend the staffer on the planning side and the public work side to getting it to this point. So I am very pleased to support this project today, but again, not with the feeling that, you know, mission accomplished. We have a little bit more work to do. Thank you.
2:12:54Thank you, Councilman Solorio. Councilman Sarmiento.
2:13:14Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. and I just had a couple questions for staff, and I do recall that there is some history to this site that it was an underdeveloped lot, and then it became a lot that was absorbing some of the overflow or some of the parking needs that the Bowers had while it was under construction, right? So I just want to make sure I state or restate the history of that site clearly. Is that the case, or was...
2:13:18Yes. Initially it was a vacant lot and then as previously mentioned it was paid for the borrowers parking lot and then ultimately in 2015 we marketed it. We put it on the market and asked people to make proposals on whether or not they were bid and then it went out to bid and we entered into an ENA agreement with the applicant. So what
2:13:51year was it paved and turned into a service street lot? It was paved for the Bowers parking lot
2:14:2527? 5? 2005?
2:14:32When that new wing of the Bowers was being constructed, right? So there's been a benefit to that lot for some of the neighboring properties, both residential and commercial, for about
2:14:3610 years. Over 10 years, yes.
2:14:47So, look, I think what happens, unfortunately, is that even though that benefit was made and created inadvertently because there was going to be a necessity for some of the Bowers folks, which was the original intention. There was some benefit to the neighborhood as well, and there were some expectations. And that's what happens a lot when things are done, whether advertently or inadvertently. You know, there are some expectations. There are some customs and habits that are created. So, you know, one of the things I was listening to, and I appreciate everybody who spoke and those who are neighbors,
2:14:50both residential and commercial in that area, I think that they spoke thoughtfully. I think they spoke articulately about the need that they have for some of those spaces, and it's compelling. So I can see why the planning commission struggled, and I know somebody posed it as a fail, but it was an impasse. It was a 3-3 where you had, I think, the commissioners really with a conundrum and a dilemma before them not really knowing where to go because they want to be responsive to the needs of the neighborhood, while at the same time they also see that there's an economic development goal here that we're trying to meet.
2:15:27And I think this is different than some other sites where you're putting a really large development with impacts in a neighborhood that has a lot of sensitive receptors. This is on a main arterial commercial corridor that's being almost dissected by a major freeway and maybe freeways. So, you know, it just seems like it's a much more compatible site with a development like this, and I probably have some issues with it if it were in a much more sensitive site where it was wrapped by neighborhoods, right? so you know one of the things I think that the you know that we see with these properties is that
2:16:04you know when there's a development introduced where there's maybe some parking issues there's also some reciprocity and there's some reciprocal parking agreements that sometimes can be reached and I know that we have a thoughtful developer we have somebody who's gonna who's been a partner here with the city will consider those things as well which brings me back to the whole idea of the parking ratio what was the ratio that without was originally you know presented and what's the ratio that we're at now is that something that you have a parking
2:16:44study required actually required a hundred and ten parking spaces the original when they got down to the nitty-gritty and looked at what was going on originally if you just applied our parking requirements straight across it's 168 spaces but when they did a parking study it was down they looked at the combining of uses the times the way that the employees come in it went down to a hundred and ten the project provides a hundred and twenty eight parking spaces which is above the minimum that the parking study indicated would
2:17:16adequately serve the business.
2:17:57Okay, so the ratio is, is that 2.1? Is that roughly
2:18:00what it is? Yeah, 2.1. There are different ratios. There's some ratios for the restaurant and some for the house. So it's blended. Yeah.
2:18:04It's blended. But is it comparable to maybe some of the other ratios that you've seen for sites like this or is this completely outside of that?
2:18:12Oh yes, it's very comparable to other sites that we've seen.
2:18:21because they applied the same standards, which are, as the parking engineer discussed, use the ULI transportation standards, which is the accepted standard that we use for studying parking.
2:18:27And, you know, my last point is that, you know, what's difficult is that when we invite developers to come in and introduce projects or to consider investing in the city, both for jobs, both for economic development, both for improving the quality of life for our residents and improving the services. Then, you know, afterwards we say, well, you know, thanks, but no thanks. And so these mixed messages are really difficult and consistency matters because I know time, effort, and money are spent. And so those expectations are risen. So, you know, I think we have to be clear when we make these, you know, sites available.
2:18:41We introduce people to come in and say Santa Ana is, you know, is business friendly. We're trying to create, again, as somebody put it, an ever-changing supply of, you know, different economic drivers here. So, look, I'm supportive of it. I'm, you know, happy to know that the developer is going to be coming in here with a very conscientious approach to this, and I know he'll work with his neighbors and be somebody who's responsible with that site. So with that, I'll be supportive of the item.
2:19:18Mayor Pro Tem, Martinez.
2:19:52Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And I'll be really brief because I think most of my colleagues that have spoken already really share the same sentiments that I have. But one of the things I do want to thank the residents and the business owners that have come here before us to discuss some of the issues. And certainly no fault of the developer. The property was put up for sale. He purchased it. definitely probably didn't understand that we have old parking standards, right? Old zoning code, 30-year general plan that hasn't been updated comprehensively. And so with that comes a lot of issues.
2:19:53But I want to talk in particular about our parking standards. They're definitely 50-plus years old. And we certainly haven't done a comprehensive parking study to meet the needs and the demand of our constituents across the entire city. I definitely agree we do need a comprehensive parking management plan, but that takes two to three years to get done. You know, having over 27 parking districts in the city and trying to figure out, you know, how do we go out there and get that done in a timely fashion. I've asked our staff to look at doing a pilot.
2:20:30I asked our city manager today, where are we with that, so that we can at least get some kind of indication in what direction we need to move in. obviously if we don't make these changes we will continue to have the same issues and be in conflict with our developer and our community as it pertains to parking so we definitely need to do our due diligence and move and make a commitment to making sure that we have a parking management study that is going to be able to work for all of us as we look at our on-street parking and those ratios, their way sometimes out of line in regards to the demand
2:21:06that is needed for that specific development in particular for example like this Hampton but I appreciate the developer willing to add additional spaces and so as we look at the the on-street and off-street parking not just in this development but in particular throughout the city I would just hope that as we move forward with this pilot that we kind of take note when the developer starts to develop that hotel and try to look at some of the shared parking. We're near Main Place Mall, and I know he's working with partners around the area,
2:21:43but when you look at Main Place Mall and you look at some other parking availability, I don't think we, and I think people are going to say, oh, she's crazy when I say this. I don't really think that we have a parking problem as it pertains to spaces. is just how we're utilizing them, and we haven't been able to put a plan together to make the best use of the land that we currently have and being able to actually look at other businesses. And I talk about Main Place Mall because they have a lot of parking spaces, and we certainly know when their peak hour times. And so how could we work with the Main Place Mall
2:22:23and realizing that when there is parking available that they're able to park either with the residential, partnership with the residential community or the private sector to help facilitate a process that's going to be able to help us meet the needs of those constituents in that area. And then just lastly, just wanting to make mention to this is that the developer, in many respects, I believe, you know, as he followed the Sunshine Ordinance, really did his due diligence to really go out there and meet with as many people as possible and certainly has, you know, done that job.
2:23:01And I want to thank the developer for doing that because I know sometimes it's not easy. He's been waiting for two and a half years. And again, this is a property that became available. He took advantage of that, not understanding some of the issues that he was going to be challenged with, but he's still here. And so I just want to make sure that as we move forward that we're able to work in concert in making sure that we're able to address the resident issues in regards to their parking needs, but at the same time making sure that we continue to develop our city in a fashion that is going to be responsible.
2:23:41And so I believe that this is a good project, is one that is going to help the city, not only financially, but I really truly believe not having hotels within North Main and going into our downtown is something that we need to continue to have discussions. as we continue to have more people coming in into our downtown we need to make sure that we provide those kinds of amenities and so with that mr. mayor I'm supportive of this project and I look for a conversation look I think
2:24:18there's a very important development I think if it does what we would like to see it do it's going to be very very significant for the city I know Council's had comment I was in the room next door hearing some of it but additional comment go ahead Councillor Benavides thank you Mayor I want to thank
2:24:51everybody who did come out to address us on both sides of the of the issue I think both the residents and local businesses that will be impacted by potentially loss of parking have legitimate points as well as those that our expressed support of the project. I think what it comes down to, as has been mentioned, that as much as the lot there has been a benefit and helpful to again some of the neighbors and the businesses in the area, it was
2:25:12intentionally set up as a temporary use and though it's been a decade or so, that temporary use now is going to be changing to potentially into a permanent use there. And it does speak to the fact that we can go in and do a number of studies. However, the reality is that the city of Santa Ana, we're long past the days of having us be a suburban city, suburban, you know, an extension of LA, if you will, suburban to other parts of, again, greater Los Angeles.
2:25:50We really are an urban center. And any, you know, I can tell you what the results of the study are going to be. There are parking shortages in the city. And I can tell you what the future is going to be. It's continuing to be parking shortages within our city. And it's beyond our city. So perhaps there will be some creative ways on how we can address parking to be able to share space and such. However, going forward, it's only going to become more impacted. There's going to be more people in Santa Ana, even throughout the county.
2:26:32And we're just going to have to look at how we creatively address that and really how we live with it. how eventually we will have to end up leaning more on public transit or other forms of addressing, again, parking shortages. But people are facing it in L.A., downtown L.A., in New York, in big cities. People aren't staying away from those areas. It's just going to take longer for us to get from one place to another, and it's just part of our reality going forward.
2:27:08All that said is I do – I have shared some concerns with regard to the number of spots that we have that are being proposed at the site with 135 units, hotel, and having – I think it's 118, remembering right? the number of spaces and then also having a 128 and then having an additional couple uses with regard to the restaurant. However, you know, and I wrestled with, you know, how do we potentially
2:27:42address that? Ultimately, it's businesses that are going to be there and ultimately for business to be successful, they have to figure out how they're going to address the needs of their customer and their client base. So I wrestle with whether we try to come up with some type of solution or regulate it at the end of the day. I'm hopeful that you are, that the hotel is at max capacity and I'm hopeful that the restaurant is being well utilized and that you have over 140 some plus people there and it'll be up to
2:28:22the operator to figure out whether it's valet, whether it's working on other solutions to address that. It is prime location right off the freeway. I don't think you can get a better location to be able to have a restaurant, I mean a business that is impacted by traffic when you're going to be able to come on and off the freeway very directly. I do hope that fairly soon tonight, we're not looking at the approval of the restaurant uses, but I I do hope that that is soon to follow. I would prefer that there were a jacuzzi on site. There's only a pool, no jacuzzi.
2:29:01I always prefer to have a jacuzzi, and I think that clients, customers out there, potential visitors would prefer as well. But other than that, I think overall, having a – I oftentimes talk to and make mention to the city manager, economic development is an opportunity that we have in the city that we have to harness and not miss out on that. So this is just another example of us being able to take an opportunity and put out the sign, Santa Ana's Open for Business. So all that said is I'm going to be supporting the item tonight. Thank you.
2:29:35Thank you. Maybe we can get you a swimming suit that says Santa's Open for Business and the logo of the hotel or something. If it's in speedo form, sir, I'll go. All right. All right. Just give us your size and we'll go from there.
2:30:11Go ahead. On more serious note, Councilman Villegas.
2:30:28Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Real quick, I appreciate everyone that came out and spoke on the topic. And after hearing both sides, I'm glad they're addressing a lot of the issues that were brought up. And I agree with a lot of the council members and their comments on the parking and all the things that pertain to this. and so for the greater good I can support this I make a motion to approve.
2:30:32All right we have motion to second let me just close the public hearing there are no more public comments and we are now in a motion to second. Just a quick comment that is I know we're talking about bigger things such as long-term parking needs and all that if we start a three-year study right now by the time we're done it's going to be different because uber and lyft and other realities are going to start to penetrate the community more and more if you start another study in three years and you go another three that study is going to be updated because the world is
2:31:01changing that fast right now um you know some of the cities that council member benavides mentioned And there's just different realities in those cities right now. San Francisco with driverless vehicles. And I know that an automatic vehicle seems like far-fetched. They're going to be here before you know it. And the real thing is going to be, remember the horse and buggy days? I mean, we don't, but they existed. Well, there was the driverless carriage that came in. And all of a sudden, they were competing with horses in a buggy. and now you had a motor carriage. And that was a rough transition.
2:31:41It's going to be the same thing with driver's vehicles. We're going to have many of us that are going to say, I want to drive. But you're going to be surrounded by cars that don't have drivers. And eventually it's going to transition. And that will be quicker than we can imagine. And also with shared systems, and they're going to come, because with the internet you'll be able to say I need a car and I need to go from here to there and a big magic computer is going to figure it out. You're going to get picked up. You're going to get dropped off. More and more people are going to say, especially the younger generation,
2:32:23they're going to say, why do I want to own a car? Why do I want to worry about maintenance? Why do I want to worry about fuel? Why do I want to worry about insurance? Why do I want to worry about, you know, if I make a mistake, I get in an accident. Now I've got a real problem. the world is going to change and and I think you know for today bringing it back to reality this is a good project parking is needed by everybody today I think we need to go forward with a project but you know for those of us with cars right now just realize we're probably not gonna have them as long as
2:32:59we think we are long term the world is going to change very very quickly so with that let's just vote and keep going those in favor please say aye aye aye Aye. Those opposed? Motion carries unanimously. A quick comment from Galson or Solonio?
2:33:34Just a quick comment. I agree with most of what you said, Mr. Mayor, but the car is going to be around about another 20 years with us as real drivers and with management studies, including whether it be pilot programs or if we had started last year and I met with vendors that can quicker order in less than three years, do a study. There are things we could do from lifts to shared parking to malls that are there today. Some places tend to already have car lifts where you could maximize existing space. So some stuff is simpler than others. Some stuff is quicker than others. And we at some point just got to start.
2:33:47We got to start with everything. I mean, go to Main Place right now. They have like 15 Tesla charging stations. And guess what? They're all full. I know there are that many Teslas at Main Place, but they are. because they're there and they're charging and and and we're going to get into real issues because once you have enough cars that are electric and they're coming as well our infrastructure is going to be very very much impacted but look we've uh we voted let me now take a couple things out of a sequence if i may i'd like to go first item 85a then the uh the successor agency meeting
2:34:23then I'm going to turn things over to Mayor Pro Tem Martinez. I'm going to be abstaining on item 75B, which is a fee schedule for the cannabis industry. As I will be, Mr. Mayor, as well.
2:35:03I think I'm on record with the city attorney as well. We're still waiting for an FPPC opinion, which is taking about five times longer than it normally should. But you'll keep us posted.
2:35:17So before we do that, let's go to 85A.
2:35:27Councilman Jose Solorio, please. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And this isn't expected to be a long conversation, but really just a thinking point for the staff and my colleagues. I have my own business license in town, and probably some of my colleagues do as well. And so I got my traditional annual thing reminding me to renew it and to figure out the formula so I can know how much to pay as a fee. We need to continue to simplify that formula so regular folks can do that on their own. I know, too, last year this time that form was not translated into Spanish.
2:35:31Now at least online is, but we need to continue to make that clear that it's available in Spanish and hopefully in Vietnamese. And then secondly, in the point of this side, which is to discuss the gig economy and home-based businesses, We have a lot of home-based businesses in Santa Ana that are doing well or could continue to even do better. And with Uber and Lyfts and a lot of other things that really are part of this gig economy, a lot of people work from home. But if you fill out these forms or you see them, there really isn't a discussion about what a home-based business is, the various types,
2:36:08and also very significantly that there are different fee structures for those home-based businesses that aren't communicated on that form. I'll tell you, for example, that when I first got this home-based business license some years ago, even though I am who I am and I know how to read, no one told me, hey, there's this separate sheet over here that discusses what these home-based businesses licenses are, and they're significantly less. But we want to educate folks about them, describe them, and really encourage this new economy, all the good stuff, but there are restrictions as well.
2:36:40And so I think we could do a better job via the form and forms as well as online communications about them because I do know that that website is kind of being improved. And I want this acknowledgment that a huge percentage of our businesses are home-based businesses or that are now part of this gig economy or will be. and as this world is changing that Mayor Polito talked about, this is part of it, and we need to update our forms and the fees to accommodate that.
2:37:16All right, well, look, I think staff heard everything you said. May we can update and come up with a different format and go from there.
2:37:48Yes, Councilman? Just briefly, because I know sometimes it helps when others kind of reinforce, and I just would echo the same. I've had neighbors ask me questions. I've gone to fill out the forms, and I've had a call. It's not very clear. Fees are, in some cases, more than they probably should be, and then I didn't actually know that there was that other hidden form. But we do, again, want to make sure that we are business-friendly at all levels and that we help people to be successful and access information also. So I would just echo some comments made by Councilman.
2:37:58Thank you. Now with that, let me move our attention for a moment to the successor agency and entertain a motion on the consent counter, Items 1 through 4. So moved.
2:38:37We have a second by Mayor Potem. Those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries unanimously. Are there any comments from—
2:38:50We'll just vote to excuse Councilman Tinajera.
2:38:59i thought we included that earlier okay so so um item five is housing authority member comments do we have any comments seeing no comments i will adjourn that bring it back to the council meeting and turn things over to mayor pro tem and she's going to go to item 75b i believe okay thank you
2:39:03Robert and Ilya. I think they left. Tesslyn.
2:39:33Don't see them here. I don't think they're outside.
2:39:41I just wanted to make mention if they wanted to see.
2:39:43Next, we're moving to 75B, which is the time for a public hearing regarding commercial cannabis to adopt ordinance to allow for professional laboratory testing and modify cannabis-related registration application and regulatory safety permit fees in fiscal year 2017. 2018. We have planning staff available for a presentation to answer questions. Do we have any members of the public wishing to speak on this matter? Just mention those two. They're not here. Seeing no other members, we're going to close the public hearing. And then ask the clerk if she
2:39:48received any written communication regarding this matter. I have not received any. Thank you, clerk. Does the council have any questions, comments? Do we want a presentation? I would
2:40:20A presentation? Great. Presentation? And then we'll move forward with comment.
2:40:30Before you tonight is a proposal to allow, address allowing cannabis testing as a commercial cannabis use. There are two ordinance provisions that are being proposed. One is in Chapter 8, which addresses medicinal uses, that says that all cannabis testing will be treated the same as described in Chapter 40. And so that's the first one.
2:40:44And in the second one, we mimic the process that is proposed for all of our cannabis uses with phase one applications, sorting out which ones we're going to have, then phase two, and then ultimately issuing the licenses or letters before the state licenses are going to be the letters of recommendation to the state. So staff stands ready to answer any questions that you may have regarding this.
2:41:19Councilman Benavides and Councilman Solorio.
2:41:58A question to staff as to whether we are looking at the number of, and some of the other uses that we've permitted, whether it be medicinal or adult use retail. We have limited the number of permits that we would be issuing in this case with regard to testing. Are we doing any type of similar type of limiting, or is it basically it's based on zoning? No. No, we are not.
2:42:00We're not recommending limiting the number of them. We feel like that would be market-driven. We are also not limiting the distance requirements between uses for this type of use either.
2:42:40between them but we are doing a or to other sensitive uses to sensitive uses that distance requirement will remain it's 1,000 feet however between the uses themselves we have a 500 foot door-to-door on retail and we are not we're not including that requirement in
2:42:59this those are my questions thank you councilman Solorio yes a couple things I know when this topic first came up some months ago at the time staff made the case that testing or really what could also be viewed as R&D is really an existing use that already is available in industrial areas and that in fact at least the belief was at the time that there was already one testing facility that existed in Santa Ana that was also testing cannabis and so the thinking at
2:43:24the time was it really is kind of by right and these businesses could be testing yeah cannabis but given the technology and the scientists or technicians they really could test cannabis and non-cannabis items which had some logic to it now staff is recommending we do need a separate process and regulatory structure why has there been a change in in thinking on
2:44:03that we are we are going ahead with treating them it was our belief based on direction from the council that we were to treat them as other cannabis uses and so that is why
2:44:30that's why we're going for that does not answer my question and maybe it could be responded to differently but again I'm emphasizing that approximately six to eight months ago staff said here or in a public safety meeting that there was no need to create a limit or a regulatory structure for testing facilities because they already existed and really by right they don't need any regulatory structure. So it was a staff driven recommendation that had some logic to it and we essentially agreed. Which is why then this issue kind of went away. Now it's back with this recommendation. If you don't have a
2:44:45proper response maybe just in writing or other staff can maybe speak to this but this is this is a big change I'm okay with the direction but I'm trying to understand why there's been that change in logic number one number two now that we are going in this direction I want to ensure that new revenue that comes in regarding this also carry the formula that we previously discuss that new revenue that could be substantial, go essentially have to youth-oriented programs and the other have to enforcement programs.
2:45:27I don't know if that needs to be here or in the future and maybe you could speak to that or a city attorney or a city manager, but that's another
2:46:06key element as well. I think how the revenue gets spent can be decided at a different
2:46:14venue. Okay, we'll come back later, but I would suggest that since we We are going to regulate it quite similar to everything else that it all should continue to have that revenue provision element to it. At least that's my thoughts and maybe my colleagues might wish to comment. And again on the first question, I don't know if Deputy City Manager Cortez, who I think was there at the time, can speak to that.
2:46:18Could I try to respond to that again? Okay, a second time, yes. Probably one of the most important reasons is for us to be able to collect fees on this. And the methodology that we're using to collect the fees is through an operational agreement. That's a better answer. That's a better answer.
2:46:44But I'd like to hear our deputy city manager validate that that was the reason. Because, again, at the time, that was not a consideration.
2:47:03The other reason why the item is coming before the city council is because the state requires a dual licensing. So in essence we have a city as well as a state.
2:47:10Well I mean a business license or something else could have also been justification that there's city approval for it but if you want to, now that the other system is kind of looking pretty good and we know it, understand it, make sense, we see some value in having a parallel system so that we could consider them and then use that process to then generate an approval of some sort that then they can consider. Thank you.
2:47:20Thank you, Councilman Solorio. Councilman
2:47:48Villegas. I'm comfortable with the staff recommendations after hearing us. Great. Thank you. So I have a couple questions.
2:47:52One, I'm in agreement with Councilman Solorio on his first statements that they should have been just exempted and not followed the RRSP process or anything else. Certainly they're not retail. You know, they're just testing and obviously by July, based on state law, we're going to have to have testing labs. So to be in compliance with the state in regards to the adult use. And so that's my first request is seeing can we move forward to exempting them and not moving. Because I do agree that if they wanted to go get a license, you know, based on what we currently have in the books, they would be able to do that.
2:47:58Of course, we talked earlier that it may not be legal for them to test cannabis, but if they wanted to, they could. Obviously, we're moving in this direction and doing an operational agreement because we want to generate revenue. And so I definitely understand that, definitely respect staff wanting to recover its costs, and definitely we need the money.
2:48:37And so I would just, you know, look moving forward if we don't choose to exempt them from the current process that wanting to make sure that if they do have to comply with the RSP and go through this application process, that essentially they can potentially be in a legal operation if we choose not to go through that RSP process. Is that a true statement or not? Just say if this, say these test labs wanted to do the traditional method in the current licensing that we currently have,
2:49:03and they don't go this route, would they be legal with legal standing here in the city?
2:49:41Not now.
2:49:49Not now, correct. So I just wanted to make that point because I know Councilman Salonio mentioned it earlier on. So the next thing that I would just ask, is it possible for us to exempt them from a lot of the current requirements that we currently have that pertain to retail? Is that possible for us to do? They still have to do the RSP. They still have to collect the fees. But I think everything else in regards to the matrix doesn't make sense for them to be a part of. And certainly that's what Councilman Saloteo is talking about.
2:49:50that certain percent should be going based towards, you know, youth programs and educational programs and the other half. But obviously, for me, I just think it's a drawback for us because, again, they're not retail. Yes, they're holding, you know, cannabis, but they're testing it. It's not like they're selling it. And so there can be some drawbacks. I'm not sure how us charging them or having to go through this matrix benefits them or even benefits us. if we just want to charge them an operation fee, I get that, and we should move forward with that.
2:50:23But everything else that we've applied to retail, I don't think that we should move in that direction.
2:50:59The matrix process will not apply because we're not putting a limit on the number that can come in. So we're not recommending that there be any limitation to the number that that be determined by the market.
2:51:05So based on the gross receipts, if the voters approve in regards to the medicinal, would they have to comply with that?
2:51:20They will have to comply with whatever is in their operational agreement. So the cost would be based on what's in the operational agreement. The recommendation for that is consistent with how we treated other uses, which was either 8% of gross receipts or $5 per square foot, whichever is more.
2:51:31Okay, so I guess if you can just please clarify for me, do we have an option to exempt them in this particular use and just go with making sure that they're able to comply, they're able to get their licensing so they can get their state license? or are you continuing to recommend what you put before us, which is making sure that they go through the entire process that currently we have for retail?
2:52:07What we're suggesting is that they go through the Phase 1, which verifies that their location is within a legal area for it to be within, and then go through Phase 2, which is a review of the employees that would be working. that would be live scan. There would be no other matrix. They would not have to do the extensive community benefits plan which would be evaluated based on the matrix or some points
2:52:38because we're not limiting the number. So anyone who could find a location that was an inappropriate area and had employees that were able to pass our background checks would be able to operate the business if they passed the other requirements of it.
2:53:14Okay, great. The last question I would ask, will we be giving them a grace period?
2:53:37Will we be giving them a grace period? It was no, because you can't really grace an illegal use, but what we're recommending what we're recommending doing is if you approve this tonight, then we will develop the application process, almost start that almost immediately, so that once after second reading, we could then circulate applications. We could work with the applicants that are interested in, as we have with the retail users.
2:53:42retailers, retail sales businesses, help them go through the process and then close at the same date that we would be closing the cure period for the ordinance would then be effective. So we could close our application period at the same time that the cure period would be effective and once the application was once the second reading had was adopted
2:54:19that makes it basically basically fast-track this process so that we did this at the end of 2017 to process the applicants so they would be in line for January first so staff is pretty experienced now at fast tracking but in In terms of requirements that you were asking about, one that I'd like to highlight is, we're following the same procedures that are already existing in terms of distance requirement to sensitive uses. Now, albeit those distance requirements were initially put in place for medicinal sales, and then we followed that with retail sales.
2:54:50This is not a retail operation, so you could consider and say, you know what, they don't apply as long as they're in an M1 or M2 zone. the distance requirement is not something that we need to consider for this use because there isn't that impact of sales and people walking in and out with it.
2:55:32So we could exempt them from the zones, M1 and M2?
2:55:48You could if this is a policy call. We're following the same requirements that we had for medicinal sales and adult use, but for inspection, you could make that call. You could also make a different call. You could say that this has come up already in a couple of other situations. You could say that the sensitive uses or that the allowable locations shall be determined by the original map that was in place when medicinal measure B was initially approved.
2:55:51And that would take into account, it would open up areas for this inspection operation to take place that might currently be impacted by the heritage project, for example. So those are things you could decide to do differently for inspection.
2:56:25Do you understand the distinction on that? That is something you would hopefully do tonight if you wanted that to be incorporated into the ordinance. I do have a couple follow-up questions, but not necessarily addressing those comments. Maybe we can bring those back. When it comes to the fees, do we know how we compare to other cities? I believe City of Irvine recently passed something that lab testing, I think maybe other cities are in line to, or if they haven't already, we are competitive with other cities.
2:56:41Some are much higher than us.
2:57:2110% or $5 per square foot. Some are few or less with 5%. So it depends on the city. Okay. And basically where I was going with that is we're going through this whole process of considering this ordinance and and everything that goes along with it. Basically, I just wanted to ensure that we weren't putting ourselves in a situation where our fees and all were so exorbitant that we weren't going to have to apply it because nobody would come here, so that kind of would nullify the whole process.
2:57:27So that addresses my question, and there were some other comments that I think...
2:58:08Councilman Solodio?
2:58:13Yes.
2:58:14Again, we didn't start off here some months ago, but I do think there is some reason to move in the direction, most notably to control the sensitive element a little bit. And maybe we shouldn't take it away, but maybe some variance process if somebody can make a case for it. The revenue piece obviously key and just for consisting with what other cities are doing and the other models that we have in our city. But most importantly too, So I think to regulate this is important in this fashion because as our city attorney well knows, this is an involving area of policy and law.
2:58:16And so the number of inquiries that we get, contests, changing case law, initiatives, local and state, and initiatives, county, state, it's evolving. There's a lot there. So for us to, you know, with a lot of care, being able to regulate, track, and adjust will be easier if we have a regulatory framework for it and fees to support this extra work. Whereas if it's just a buy, write, no issues, then it'll be harder down the road to make changes in accordance with other local or state laws.
2:58:55And in fact, a lot of our regulatory structure on the cannabis stuff directly acknowledges that if there are changes in state law, that we will make accommodations to be consistent with that. And so for those reasons, it is important to kind of have a similar structure here so we can evolve locally as the state evolves. And finally, I know there's only four of us remaining on the dais, so I don't know if there's really four votes for any recommendation. maybe there isn't maybe there isn't that i don't know that a two-week continuance would really hurt uh anything because i don't to my understanding i don't think there are any
2:59:34pressing deadlines or reasons why it needs to be approved tonight well at the last council meeting
3:00:14that's why we brought this up and you all agreed that you know we have until july until we need to have testing labs near here we're far away from july well you know the process that that we have you know we have to go through a first or a second and then they have to do the application process and be consistent with this for these folks to go through the state and obviously you know extending this for two weeks to get possibly one member of the council but when it would if he doesn't show up right now but besides just to recuse himself there's only four of us here but
3:00:19indirectly for example like let's say if we were to move with staff recommendation as is would you support it um no I want to provide that's the First thing, we may not then be able to have four votes.
3:00:51Well tonight, I just want to provide the exemption to remove from M1 and M2 because some of them may be impacted based on the heritage mapping that was taking place.
3:01:01Well, then maybe it's a variance. Would you be willing to approve this with some variance element to it? Because if not, I'm not today willing to support it without any sensitive use restriction.
3:01:12Can I propose something here? If we want to keep it in M1 and M2, which is where research and development uses are located in our city, we could maintain the sensitive use requirement, but by, as the city manager indicated, by saying that we would allow only residential uses, we would use the map that was in place at the time that Measure BB was adopted.
3:01:27If we use that Measure BB map, then that would eliminate the issue.
3:02:03That's one option. I would suggest that another option would be to exempt mixed-use zones Because that project, if that's your sole concern, which maybe it is, that is what differentiates that element of the map from pretty much everywhere else. That plus the fact that there currently are no residents living in that mixed zone development. And I do like this line of discussion because I think this impacts other discussions on other maps. So I would like some kind of exemption for that area because I think it's unique. there's no existing residential neighborhoods there may not be for some
3:02:11time as well as a mixed-use development it's not a true residential neighborhood development so if you're okay with exempting that special mixed zone development or going back to what the map was original map let's do that
3:02:51let's see the original map staff would recommend the original map just because it's easier for us in case additional areas.
3:03:09Yes, and everybody made prior decisions based off that. So I think that there's a lot of elegance to that.
3:03:18Mayor Pro Tem, my only comment here would be this. If you don't have the four votes tonight to approve the ordinance that is sitting in front of you, my recommendation would be that we take all of this really good input and come back with a revised ordinance. We know from first-hand experience what happens when we try to draft our ordinances at close to 10 o'clock at night, and we know what results when we do that. It would result in a two-week delay because you're going to have to have a second reading.
3:03:25But to try to add maps tonight that you don't have attached to your reports and to do that as a first reading, that's not the perfect way to make the law. and if so if you look if you seem that you would have support for this my recommendation would be give us as much direction as you can tonight and we can bring it back to you and make sure it's packaged in a way that everyone can fairly apply because we we had this happen to us once before where you give us input and direction and then doesn't get drafted exactly the way you want it and then we have to come back to you and your public is not happy the applicants
3:03:57are not happy. And I certainly agree. I was kind of, you know, surprised that this ordinance came before us and I sent an email at one o'clock in the morning, you know, as I was reading this to you all and I didn't get a response. And so, you know, I had some of these concerns and issues. And so the other, just lastly, maybe we do need a two week continuance because again, you know, taxing, you know, these labs at 8%, they're not retail. I just don't understand why we would do that to this industry um you know specifically lab testing um and i get the pain the charging the
3:04:30fees for them to exist and i'm okay with that but then also on top of that taxing them like if they were a retail which they are not again they are testing the cannabis not selling it and so i just want to say i think it just takes it's a little different or maybe it's the ray but again i would
3:05:06argue because there is so much state legislation dispute everything else the regulatory enforcement and education aspect is more complex than an industry that's been around forever and so that extra time needs to be paid for somehow and i know you like the fee for service thing and so here i think this is a non-traditional evolving thing that and again maybe it's not eight percent but that's why your question councilman benavida was good about what's happening in the surrounding surrounding areas and these fees already, you know, about a couple percentage points less than our surrounding community.
3:05:24So it seems competitive and I know from the earlier applications, the state when we submit applications or just we're acknowledging, they call us and ask questions. And it's, you know, planning staff, they got to work sometimes even through weekends to address those questions. And so unlike a traditional business that doesn't get asked those questions, there are other staff costs today and will continue to be until this industry matures a little bit more.
3:05:59Agreed. So let's continue this for a few weeks.
3:06:27But just with the last thing to making sure that we are consistent with what's going around surrounding the question that Councilman Benavides mentioned. But just to serve, I think, you know, Costa Mesa is at 5% and Irvine's at 0%. And we're doing 8%, right? So that is not competitive.
3:06:30I think I heard different rates, but we need a table.
3:06:46I just want to make sure that we have the right taxing limits with those other jurisdictions. Again, the last thing, I think we want to do this right, and so I'm in agreement continuing this. But at the same time, we don't want to treat these folks like if they're retail because they are not. And I definitely understand that we have to be nimble with the state regulations as they're continuing to move forward. But at the same time, we need testing labs here in our city. Definitely Irvine is capitalizing on that, Costa Mesa. The last thing that we want is to have them go to those other cities,
3:06:49and then we don't have it because we were so horrendous with all these regulations and costs that are unnecessary to this particular lab testing.
3:07:27So the four main issues of feedback that I think I heard you say is you'd like to make sure that these testing labs for cannabis are permitted in the M1 and M2 zones. You want to protect sensitive uses, but only based on the original Measure B, B-MAP. Second, you want us to take a look at the tax rates. You want to make sure that it's fair and equal and is consistent with what we might see in neighboring communities so that we don't lose some of these businesses to neighboring communities.
3:07:37You want us to take a look at the RSP process to make sure that it's not so onerous, that we scare away the labs, but it still protects us from someone who's going to be handling and testing cannabis. And finally, you just want to make sure that we have that consistency with your neighbors. Is that pretty much the policy direction?
3:08:07One final point, just an acknowledgement in the staff report itself, that there be revenue shares consistent with what we're doing with the other uses so that youth programs and enforcement are particular benefit.
3:08:25We can add that, and then I can talk with the manager. That may be a larger conversation.
3:08:38The final action itself would be separate, but I want it to be part of the record from the beginning.
3:08:42You want us to remember that and maybe bring it back and have that larger conversation.
3:08:47Correct.
3:08:50Would that be fair? Great. Okay, I think we got very clear feedback and that we'll bring back an ordinance that reflects those points.
3:08:51Great, thank you. So with that, we're going to move towards the work-study session. And do we have a comment?
3:09:02Yes.
3:09:17Great. So the first study session is on the proposed accessory dwelling units. What we're going to do is do the presentation first, and then we'll do public comment, and then bring this back to the council. I always think it's important for all of us to see the presentation first before the public comments or council. I think that's the best approach. And so with that, if I can please have the staff that is going to be presenting on the proposed accessory dwelling unit ordinance.
3:09:31Sure. Madam Mayor, this is an item that has been before the council previously. And there were some questions. We hope to bring back some of those answers. And we'll have Candida Neal from Planning and Building present.
3:09:58Good evening. We came before you previously on a work study session where we talked to you a little bit about accessory dwelling units and where we were going. But I'd like to go over with you a little bit of the background. In 2003, we originally enacted an accessory dwelling unit in response to the original state legislation.
3:10:36That ordinance itself was constructed so that they would be allowed in residential zoning districts. and it was helpful in maintaining our neighborhoods, and people were comfortable with that ordinance. In 2017, the state legislature made that ordinance null and void because it had several provisions that were not consistent with new legislation.
3:11:06The one key component that they said they made many, as we talked about at our last study session, they made many stipulations in which we cannot control it at the local level in terms of parking and location of these items. but they did say that we can provide a framework and some legislation, but it may not be arbitrary, excessive, burdensome, so as to unreasonably restrict the ability of homeowners to create an accessory dwelling in it.
3:11:40So that's the part that we have to remember when we're looking at this ordinance, this new ordinance, excuse me.
3:12:18The previous council study session that we had was in December, and there were a number of issues that were brought up at that time. The first one was the utility services area. At that time, we were using the utility services area to look at how we were going to be designating areas of the city in which to permit by right or in which to require an additional review of those areas. And that is permitted under the state law.
3:12:30The other issue that was brought up, but you were concerned about using the park deficiency area. The second was setbacks. we decided to use the regular single-family setback, and you were concerned that that might be too difficult. And then the third was off-street parking impacts. You were very, very concerned about off-street parking impacts. And so I'd like to run through each of these with you right now. The first one is the utility services requirement.
3:13:09the ordinance says that a local agency may designate areas where necessary where they may be permitted so it says we can say where they can be permitted if it's based on services or utilities they specifically list in the legislation water sewer and impact of ADU on traffic flow or sub or public safety but they also also, but they also say it's community services that are provided, and we're looking at it
3:13:43as if it was a utility or service. So we went to, as I mentioned before, we had a special counsel who helped us in reviewing our ordinance to make sure that it complied with state law, so that we were adopting something that could truly be implemented. And the recommendation from the special council was that yes, we could use open space because we have clearly demonstrated that because of our density rates, our city density rates, and as well as our
3:14:20open space impacts and the lack of parks, that open space is an issue for us. The previous recommendation that we made on this was if you were further than one quarter mile from a pocket park or a half mile from a neighborhood or regional park, you would not be allowed to build an ADU unless you went through a review process that looked at open space on the site.
3:14:59Now the council was uncomfortable with that because they felt that the areas that were furthest from public parks and were most densely populated were also some of the areas in which ADUs might be the most beneficial and be most necessary and help the people that live there.
3:15:36So in response to that, we looked at, we're suggesting an alternate proposal for you to consider, which would be to allow ADUs and any kind anywhere throughout the city as long as they had 1,200 square feet of open space area. Now, a typical city lot would be about 6,200 square feet, so that would be one-sixth of the lot, I suppose. So that was the alternate recommendation for the ordinance.
3:16:01Just to clarify, the example gives you 1,200 square feet of non-front yard open space, So essentially it would be restricted to a backyard space. Yes. I just want to clarify.
3:16:43Setbacks. The state law allows us to create separate setbacks for ADUs and that's something that is permitted. We decided in the original draft not to do that, to let our existing setbacks decide where they are. And in most R1 districts, which is where we'd be building these, constructing these units, the setback is 20 feet.
3:17:17The council's response was that that's too onerous, that's too hard, that places too great a restriction on the homeowners. And so the revision is that we would allow a reduced setback to 10 feet. so reducing that setback to 10 feet and that would be the that's the alternate staffer proposal are there any comments or any comments discussion on the setback
3:17:54discussion on the setback okay no all right and then finally you were very concerned about the impacts of parking on our neighbor and the neighborhoods and what the parking impacts would be like. And so we have parking issues in many of our residential neighborhoods and so as a way of trying to regulate that we were struggling with it because the state exempts most of the city from requiring
3:18:29additional parking for the ADU units because of our proximity to transit and even when we define transit as carefully as we could still most of our city is exempted from parking requirements for the AD units so the approach that we decided to take was if we only allow the AD units to be smaller units such as studios and one bedrooms, you're not going to have larger families which may have multiple
3:19:08cars. So that was the approach that we are proposing now as an alternate to address that issue. Are there any comments on that? Or questions? All right. Yes?
3:19:41very quickly on the on the parking issue because i know that there's concerns and why provided a different alternative from what the state was asking for and i know the council had some concerns council members that are currently not present here today i think those were some of the issues that they're honing in on in regards to the parking and then how the map was designated and you pointed out the last time it was because, you know, of part four, you know, not being part four, and the question that I would just ask,
3:20:01that if the city were to move towards allowing for these ADUs based on currently what the state is asking and based on what you presented to the city here today,
3:20:37One of the questions that I have is because we have a lot of active neighborhood associations and I live in Wilshire Square and certainly they're very active and so everyone knows who neighbors are, who's coming over, who's having a party, you know, when to call the police and so for me, you know, moving towards these ADUs, definitely a lot of these neighbors would know that if they're renting that out or they're not living in front of their home, obviously, you know, those neighborhood associations would be calling us in a heartbeat.
3:20:55And we know that because we have very active neighborhood associations, very active neighbors that want to make sure that those folks that, you know, are doing ADUs, that, you know, they're actually living on their property and not just renting those out. So currently now, right, and maybe I'm wrong, that if you live in the front, can you live in the back house or the front house or you just have to live on the property, period?
3:21:29You just have to live on the property. The current ordinance states that you have to live on the, the owner has to live on the property. And that was something that we felt that council supported. The council did not indicate they were uncomfortable with that condition.
3:21:58Correct, and I just wanted to state that for the record. Great, thank you.
3:22:16Any more questions for Candida? if not i will bring this back to the city council um you know in um as it pertains to um you know the direction um um we're going to take but before that we do have two speakers and i want to make sure that um i i call them and the first is mike tard off and then frank mitchell so if i could have mike please join us and then followed by frank and then we'll bring it back to the council
3:22:21Good evening, Mayor Pro Tem and City Council. My name is Mike Tardiff. I'm a resident of Santa Ana. Regarding the proposed accessory dwelling unit ordinance, some call them granny flats, the first draft of the ordinance came through, and you did have questions and concerns about that. And I recently had a discussion with staff concerning some changes they made to that first draft to address the concerns that you did have. And they seem reasonable to me.
3:22:52So as one of the residents that participated in previous meetings, public meetings, neighborhood meetings concerning this issue, staff worked hard to put together a good ordinance. and I think the changes that they proposed here to that ordinance seem reasonable although 10 feet as far as a setback in in the back seems a little
3:23:30inadequate and probably be a little more comfortable with 15 feet but overall I I personally would support this second draft of the ordinance.
3:24:04Thank you, Mr. Tardoff. Appreciate it. Next, we have Frank Mitchell.
3:24:21Good to see you, Frank. It's been a while.
3:24:28It's been too long. You've been hiding. We miss you. Yes. And I just want to let you know, you still haven't changed physically. God was good to you in your face. I want to let you know. Okay. Nice to have good looking women here. Okay. And I don't care what the current political correctness is or whatever. I'm saying what I believe. All right.
3:24:31Mr. Mitchell, you've got three minutes. Come on.
3:24:51All right. Let me come on. Okay. I'm going to start out by questioning this. This wasn't what I was going to speak on, but after I heard the executive planner speak on it, it is important. It is the staff recommendation on limiting accessory dwelling units to studio or one bedrooms to limit potential parking impacts caused by increased number of adults residing at the site. I'm sorry. That's not a valid reason to restrict what owners of property want to do with their property. Okay. Two bedrooms. That would be fine.
3:24:53even a three-bedroom ADU if the land was sufficient in size because it can accommodate families with small children and small children are not allowed to drive motor vehicles anyway all right so I just wanted that that's the first thing I'm gonna say it's straight out right there another thing is this as far accessory dwelling units go I'm very pro homeowner what they want to do with their property so long as it legitimately does not interfere with
3:25:33anyone else else's rights in or cause confusion in the community and the city should be proactive like that and I see that you are to give an arbitrary size okay well we're gonna have 20 foot setback from the rear or 10 foot set back from the rear which makes sense by the way 10 feet okay okay I'll say that you have to have some basic limits but yeah we must be reasonable on that a 1,200 square feet of open space, but it's not in front yard. A couple of things here.
3:26:10Some lots cannot accommodate that, and yet the owners would like to have a sufficient size accessory dwelling unit. I would say 900, really. But if you're going to insist on 1,200 square feet, count the driveway because some residences have built two car garages way in the back so let's count that side yard as well as any part in the back to 1,200 square feet. Can you please wrap up Mr. Mitchell? Appreciate it. Sure. Another thing is this
3:26:51almost all accessory dwelling units that's type 5b construction you can build it and sometimes you going to easily demolish it okay it's not really set in stone even then stone buildings have been demolished as well and let's allow homeowners to have two story accessory dwelling units they can be designed where you don't adversely compromise the community and it can greatly increase the value of the property and also for people who family members who want to live in the
3:27:29Thank you very much. Have a great evening, sir. Okay. Okay, thank you. So we're going to bring this back to the City Council. Any questions, considerations? It's a pleasure. Councilman Solorio.
3:28:10Yes, thank you. And I know this is a study session. I am pleased with the overall work that staff has put into this. I know there's been many meetings and changes, some big, some small. Also, I do want to personally thank Mike Tardif, who is one of my commissioners I know, next to staff collectively in town. He's probably the one that spent the most time on this. And I think staff found a middle ground. I think for some up here, this is too strict. For some like myself, it's not strict enough. You know, I had made the case, for example, that you could look at lack of police services,
3:28:23too many accidents in some areas that we should find other standards to further control where we can allow this but I think this is a middle ground and you know ordinances like this they're not set in stone so as things change down the road including you know parking and traffic and all these other things we could you know in the future also make accommodations but I think you know we've been working on this for a year and we need to have something in place to work from and I think this is a sensible middle ground so with that I just hope that this could be brought back soon in final form so that the council can can
3:29:02approve or modify from an actual ordinance thank you
3:29:43other comments no other comments at this time I would just you know wanting to state and I think we're moving in the right direction but as we look at housing in our housing crisis and last month we had a discussion on rent control and as we you know continue to have discussions on that you know this is an opportunity for us to provide more housing but when we look at the limit of ADUs to studios to one bedroom obviously here in this community and we
3:29:48keep on talking about this that we need two three bedrooms right to accommodate our families and so i just want us to keep that in mind as we continue and i definitely get the parking issues in the park space but understanding our housing crisis and what we're dealing with obviously the need for us is not studios or one bedrooms it goes beyond that and many of our residents in particular you know whether we're looking at the Vietnamese community or the Latino community many times you know they have you know family members their grandmas and grandpas wanting to live you know or you know having their children be able
3:30:25to live there for some period of time and so I just want us to just to think about that as we move forward and looking at what kind of housing we actually want to provide but I definitely understand some of the issues and concerns that have been brought up and I too also want to just thank many of the residents that have been very proactive and Mr. Tarduff as well and trying to meet some middle ground but again I'm always going to go back and we're going to continue the second work study which is affordable housing funds policies and procedures obviously we don't have the majority of our many members of
3:31:04our council is missing but just wanting to make sure that we have goals you know as we move forward to providing the housing stock that is necessary for our community, and we need to look at various forms of what that housing stock is going to look like. We're kind of in a dilemma in many ways. We heard last month some of the major concerns from our residents and the constraints that they're having. Also from the builders and the apartment association folks saying, look, we want to help out, we want to work with the city, but again, we have to also bring these tools and resources to the table.
3:31:41And so I think we need to have broader discussions as we move forward as it pertains not only to our affordable housing, but all of our housing stock as we move forward and what is that going to look like and to making sure that we're able to accommodate our current residents. And so I just want us to continue to keep that in mind as we continue to move these policies forward and i knew councilman solorio would have comments after
3:32:22i commented so council member solorio just one brief clarification and i can be corrected if if i'm wrong but uh at our last council meeting we did have a very robust and long conversation regarding rent control and i don't think there was anyone on the council that wanted to have more conversations uh on the council about rent control policies uh so i don't want to confuse the staff
3:32:45that there's about housing just in general okay you mentioned right there's a discussion yes nobody
3:33:10said continue the conversation i don't think we want to continue from the conversation we had a we had a conversation i think there was a lack of support on the council for that but the overall issue of housing affordability and conditions that we definitely should continue to discuss thank you
3:33:17yes i just wanted to clarify that thank you if there's no more comments so um i guess our staff will take back some of the suggestions that we made and then bring this forward and I would just encourage for our staff to send again this presentation to the council members they had to leave and so if they have any other questions so that when this this come before us that we don't continue the item again obviously we need to move forward with this and and at times you know folks will say you know I didn't have time to review it so if we can be able to present this and if
3:33:31bringing it to the next council meeting to go with something that we're ready to move forward and if not with that there's no more questions i'm going to um just ask my colleagues because um you know three members of the council are not here for us to continue the affordable housing funds policy and procedures obviously councilman sarmiento sat with me on the committee and so he's not present so i just want to be respectful make sure that he's able to participate and of course our mayor and councilman tinajero and with that we're going to move towards uh comment and so
3:34:04we have various speakers that wish to speak at this time and so if you all can please bear with me because i think we have about 13 to 14 speakers here and i'm going to go with the first one tj tier followed by bob tucker
3:34:39No Bob Tucker? Bob Tucker is here.
3:35:04Okay. Yeah, yeah, there was no TJ.
3:35:07Yep.
3:35:10There's a group of us coming forward. My name is Bob Tucker, and I'm the union appointee to the Santa Ana Workforce Investment Board Youth Council. And I'm here with some other folks to show support for the Santa Ana Public Library. the Santa Ana WIB Youth Council already supports the Santa Ana Public Library they do amazing work I've seen the work they do to help our youth have a second chance and gain knowledge for employment so I just want to I know this city stands strongly for diversity and that's that's the backbone of the city and I'm confident that you folks will continue to support diversity and especially the
3:35:16Santa Ana Public Library and I have some other folks who wish to speak on that as well.
3:35:55Just to interrupt here, if you don't mind, I think there were two or three individuals that were going to speak and the rest in solidarity.
3:36:00Thank you, Councilman Solorio. If you could, I please just, what speakers are going to speak? So I just could...
3:36:07Logan Crow, Laura Cantor. You're not speaking, okay.
3:36:13Logan Crow.
3:36:17Benjamin Cervantes. Mia. Mia. Collins. Collins.
3:36:19Okay.
3:36:28Thank you. Good evening. My name is Logan Crow, and I am the founder and executive director of the Frida Cinema in downtown Santa Ana. And I'm here to speak about the Frida's own participation as a partner of this event, and why I personally see the tremendous value and need for events like this in our community. As Santa Ana's and Orange County's sole non-profit art house cinema, we make it our mission to continue to ensure that we're programming films and cultural and educational events for and with our diverse community and in a downtown like Santa Ana that
3:36:29celebrates its rich cultures histories and diverse communities that has not been hard to do in its own reward integral to that is that we ensure that we're doing our part to represent one of the most underrepresented and marginalized of communities the LGBT community a recent study found that nearly 30% of Orange County self-identified lesbian gay or bisexual high school students have attempted suicide compared to just 6.8% of heterosexual students. Hate crimes against LGBT students and adults is on the rise, and no less than a month ago, our local high school OSHA was rocked by the brutal murder of one of its alumni,
3:36:57Blaise Bernstein, in an act of senseless intolerance and hate. Last year, at least 28 transgender people were murdered in the U.S., making it the deadliest year yet for the transgender community. Such attacks and murders of our transgender community specifically have so eclipsed statistics that have led to the formation of National Day of Remembrance, called Transgender Day of Remembrance, honoring the memory of those whose lives were lost in acts of anti-transgender violence. It's not called Transgender Pride Day. It's not called Transgender Tolerance Day. It is literally called Transgender Day of Remembrance
3:37:29because the murder rate has been that substantial. I do not believe that all folks who speak against events like this would absolutely condone such brutality. I do not believe that at all. But we see every day what this sentiment and the severity of their words can lead to in impressionable and sensitive minds? How does a closeted teen look at themselves in the mirror and find hope when all they are hearing is that gays go to hell and that their most deeply personal yearnings and identity are an affront to their families? And what does a confused and angry young teen looking to lash out do
3:38:00when he is told that gay people and transsexual people are the root of all evil and responsible for the corruption of America and our youth? They need leaders in their community, countering that sentiment with initiatives like Saturday's event, events that say, hey, you can believe what you want to believe, but know that there are so many cultures and traditions and forms of performance and celebration out there, and at the end of the day, they are all okay. They may not be for you. You may not get them. They may amuse you. They may annoy you. They might even gross you out a little bit, but they are okay.
3:38:30There's nothing inherently wrong with them.
3:38:58Logan, if you could please wrap up.
3:39:00Absolutely. I believe events like this are absolutely essential. It's far more than a gimmicky twist. Our LGBT community is part of Santa Ana, and their culture must be represented.
3:39:02In the spirit and hope for a more tolerant future for our children, I hope that you attend, or at the very least, support this event and understand its importance. To recall a beautiful sentiment that was spoken earlier today, love shouldn't hurt. Thanks very much.
3:39:12Thank you. Benjamin Cervantes, followed by Mia.
3:39:24Hello, members of the council. My name is Benjamin. I was born and raised in Santa Ana, and this event means a lot to me. I came out as trans to my family a couple years ago, and they were all struggling to find resources in our community. They were struggling to be able to tell my little cousins what it meant to be trans and find other resources in the community that they could attend to that weren't all just going to the one gay bar on 4th Street. I am really happy that I've been a longtime volunteer at the Santa Ana Public Library and I'm really happy that
3:39:32This event is being hosted here and that it's free and all ages and everybody's welcomed and I would really like to see Some of you guys there to like support our youth Yeah, so thank you very much. Thank you Benjamin
3:40:10Mia Collins
3:40:27So good evening council members my name is Mia Collins and I'm a senior in high school and a volunteer and now intern at the Santa Ana Public Library. I wanted to formally invite the council and community to an event happening at the library. The library will be hosting a drag queen story time and resource fair starting at 12 p.m. to 1 30 at the main main library in meeting room A. I am happy to share that I am one of the youth that requested and am coordinating this event to happen. I want to show people that the library is an inclusive place that
3:40:34accepts everyone. I want people to come to the library and know that this is a safe place for the LGBTQ community. The library is a safe place for me and other youth. I want to make sure that we promote kindness and compassion. So one of the books the drag queens will be reading is if you give them us a cookie this event is a family friendly event so feel free to invite your children teens and friends right after the story time we will be hosting a free resource fair from different LGBTQ friendly organizations in Santa Ana I just wanted to say something that isn't
3:41:08on my phone but this would have been I know this is really important to me personally I would have loved to have had this when I came out as pan to have a place I knew accepted me and I could learn more about what I was going through and I really hope that you guys will all attend and support your youth and yeah thank you thank you Mia
3:41:42is there any other members of the public that wish to speak I know I there was a whole list beyond this if not was were there folks that put submitted their name that wish to speak Your name is? Michelle.
3:42:11Hi, good evening. Good evening, council members. My name is Michelle Ovalle. I'm the secretary for the Park San Diego Neighborhood Association. and I'm coming out here to represent my opposition to the development of the 2525 Main Residential Development.
3:42:40The current professional building at 2525 North Main Street serves as an important transitional buffer between the established neighborhood of Park Santiago and Main Street. Not only is this transition buffer important for the neighborhood and traffic patterns, but the professional job opportunities it provides are important for the well-being of the entire city. We want good-paying office job locations to stay in Santa Ana for our existing Santa Ana residents.
3:43:01In support of the North Santa Ana Preservation Alliance and SAPPA, I oppose any rezoning and general plan amendment for the 2525 main residential development. So basically, there's three points that we want to make because there are some changes going on in terms of what's going to change in terms of zoning. So, first of all, we want no rezoning, no general plan amendment, and no apartments. I insist that the zoning at 2525 Maine remain professional as it has long been,
3:43:33and I intend to persistently and unrelentantly make this known to the City Council and planning departments. I want to preserve the beauty and design of this community. That's very important. That's why people have moved to our community, to Park Santiago, because of what it's like in that community and what it's been like for the past 30 years. So I understand there's a lot of apartments being developed in that area already.
3:44:16And having an entrance into Edgewood, into that neighborhood, is going to change what is currently the atmosphere and the design. And it's not a historic community, but we still consider it a very nice community, and we want to keep it that way. and the historic nature to it, having a 500 unit apartment complex would change a lot there.
3:44:52Can we strap up, ma'am?
3:45:27Yeah. So that's basically what we're starting to oppose, and there's quite a few residents behind this. and it's just the start of what we are going to change in terms of what's going to be developed there. So just wanted to speak for them.
3:45:28Great. Thank you very much. Thank you. And I don't see her here. Jackie Burnett Cordova, I think she has left. I don't see any more members in the public that wish to speak. And so we're going to move to city manager comments.
3:45:49Thank you, Madam Mayor Prochette. I just wanted to share some good news. Santa Ana has been nominated for a Green Fleet Award. Roush Clean Tech nominated the city of Santa Ana's Fleet Division for a Green Fleet Award.
3:46:05The Green Fleet Award nomination will be presented at the upcoming Alternative Clean Technology Expo in Long Beach this May. The city's green fleet vehicle inventory includes a total of 38 vehicles, 15 heavy-duty trucks that are operated with liquid propane gas, six heavy trucks operated with compressed natural gas, two light trucks operated with compressed natural gas, one medium electric vehicle, 14 light electric vehicles, and we're hoping to do more with this grant that we mentioned earlier. So I just thought it'd be nice, it's just nice to share that we're being nominated for this award. Thank you.
3:46:21Great. Thank you. I'm going to bring it to City Council comments and start with Councilman Solorio.
3:46:57Just one comment. I do want to thank our City Manager for his wisdom in appointing a great police chief. David Valentin, you may have mentioned a lot of his virtues. He's homegrown, rose through the ranks, worked very closely with the school district police, and as acting chief has done a fabulous job with limited resources and expanding the gang unit, getting a lot of guns off the street, calendar year to year. I know we reviewed the stats with him and others. We did see a reduction crime year over year, and key things we were tracking, like shootings and homicides, particularly gang-related homicides.
3:47:03So we made some progress, got more to go, and I think the department has now a good, stable leader that can continue to improve the department, grow the department, and make our community safer than it already is. Thank you so much.
3:47:44Thank you. Councilman Villegas.
3:48:03Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. Yes, congratulations to Chief Valentin. Well deserved. Great appointment. Thank you, Mr. City Manager.
3:48:06I'd also like to thank, I want to wish everyone who celebrates the Lunar Year a Happy New Year. It's the year of the dog. Chuk mung no moe. Yeah, of course.
3:48:17Anyway, thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.
3:48:33Councilman Benavides.
3:48:37Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. I've got to practice my Vietnamese, so I won't try to come out with it. I do want to also echo some of the comments with regard to officially welcoming our new police chief, Chief Valentin. I've been working very diligently with both our team here internally within the department and within the city, as well as the community at large. and so appreciate your leadership there and want to congratulate you on on
3:48:39formally being appointed to that post. Look forward to continuing to work with you and continue to see some of your innovative ways to be able to ensure the safety of our community and support community oriented policing. I also want welcome Stephen Pham and also Miss Keika, her first name slips from a mind. Hafsa Keika, who's our new homeless services manager as well. We had an opportunity to meet, joined us last week. So
3:49:13good job city manager and that you're bringing on some good quality people to join the team here and provide support to our city.
3:49:49I know we had a couple of, I don't know if there are still some of the speakers who came and addressed us earlier on the activities that will be taking place this weekend at the library. And even though it's kind of a sensitive issue, I just wanted to address and really to, mainly for our staff, I think the comments that were made and that we are very intentionally a diverse city both ethnically and otherwise and as a council we've been very intentional about creating space and supporting all members of our community LGBTQ community in particular.
3:50:00the group that the activities that will be taking place and I really do
3:50:40appreciate the fact that specifically the aim is to from what I understand by this event to extend support to our teens to our young people and the statistics that they shared with regard to
3:50:46the unfortunate both targeting of members of the LGBTQ community, suicide rates and such that are very concerning. At the same time, specifically the topic that was chosen and the drag queen story time, when I think of that, specifically drag queens specifically I think of more of an adult entertainment type of setting and so I don't know that it was the wisest choice by the folks that organize specifically some of the adults that maybe have been involved
3:51:07and specifically some of our staff who are trying to support our teens and them organizing and creating a space that is inviting and supportive I just feel like there is it creates something where council has been receiving comments, I've gotten some phone calls, we've received some emails and so it kind of makes it so that we're actually creating something controversial that ideally we'd not want it to be controversial and ideally would like it to be more inclusive and generally
3:51:47supportive and educational so I feel like it's kind of created more of a lightning rod.
3:52:24So it's unfortunate. Again, my comment mainly is for our staff and both staff across the board, but staff that's specifically working with the teen space youth who I think we're doing, you know, provide some of the organizing. It shouldn't have to be out here until 10 o'clock at night having to sort of defend what they're doing, what they're putting on. It should be something that is, you know, that's not getting a negative response. So just, again, request that we kind of share some of that, convey some of that messaging again,
3:52:31so we can, you know, be able to avoid putting our teens in that type of spot going forward. But overall, there's a lot of good things going on in our city. that our youth be engaged, being one of those. So I just want to encourage folks to continue to step in, support the city of Santa Ana, support local business, shop in the city. With that, have a good night.
3:53:11Thank you, Councilman Benavides. I will be short because I know we are adjourning the meeting in a couple of people's names here. One, and I know this past weekend we did support the Lunar New Year and wanting to wish the Vietnamese community and the Chinese and Korean, those that celebrate the Lunar New Year. And yes, it's the year of the dog, and Councilman Solorio, it's his year. Wishing you the best, and I heard there were some amazing festivities over the weekend. And so continuing to celebrate, but we're also celebrating Black History Month.
3:53:35I wanted to do a proclamation today, but I had two presentations and we're cut to just two and so in the future and I know I've always done Black History Month that if our staff can put something together because I could only do so many presentations and remind maybe spread that to other council members they may not have an item because you know we're missing the opportunity to really highlight Black History Month and other observant days and I just wanted to make mention that a week ago they had their parade in Anaheim. It used to be here and definitely we had a huge presence of the Black History community,
3:54:12particularly here in this city, lots of history. We want to certainly continue to recognize those folks that have done some amazing work in this great city. even though we no longer host a parade here it's in anaheim but we're still one connected family many of those that started that parade here are now in anaheim and so you know we want to make sure that we continue to recognize their efforts and then as well i wanted to make mention as we move forward throughout the year i know we had set a policy as it pertains to our flags and some of
3:54:54the flags that we are able to put up there at various times, whether it's, you know, Harvey Milk Day or, you know, celebrating LGBT, but here at Black History Month. And so we get consideration from various groups and that's been brought to sometimes to our staff. but if there are opportunities for us to put or support or do outreach so that we can continue, you know, to celebrate some of these days of observance would be greatly appreciated. Because I know we set policies and sometimes it just goes away and then something controversial
3:55:31that may come up that we're having to address. But I think this is something positive, as Councilman Benavides talked about diversity and wanting to make sure that we are inclusive and we welcome all groups here in this city. And I certainly do agree. The emails that were received over the weekend over, you know, the youth event that is happening with the LGBT community, definitely I think it brought a lot of attention to certain folks just because of the name. I don't think many of them were not, again, I can't speak for them, but we're possibly not in opposition of what we're trying to do or be diverse,
3:56:10but just the title just sent a wrong message. And so in the future as well, events that occur like this that may be political in nature that it's brought to the attention of the city council, the last thing that we want, again, is not to be informed and not be aware and then get these emails and not being able to respond in a timely fashion. and so I would just encourage us to put something together, Mr. City Manager, with your staff, making sure in the future that this doesn't occur.
3:56:50And so those are just my comments on that, and I just want to move towards the adjournment of our next council meeting, which is scheduled for you.
3:57:22Madam Mayor Pro Tem, sorry to add, but before you do the adjournment, because I know we have a few, I think it is important for the community to know that even though it wasn't on our regular agenda today, in closed session we did discuss the homelessness crisis that we continue to have. So do know that the activities on the riverbed, the activities in court, are things that we're working on with staff, with each other, with county supervisor staff in the broader community.
3:57:33you know always you know knowledgeable of the fact that because of the Brown Act you know four of us can't be outside of these meetings discussing these issues but we know it's critical in the community is tracking these items and just because it's not on our regular agenda does not mean that we are not working on it very diligently. Agree Councilman Solorio I think everyone is working
3:58:10on this issue and definitely want to thank Councilman Juan Villegas who sits on our joint Powers Agreement, who's been working very hard with the county as he now has a direct connection in the past. Council didn't sit on this JPA. Now we have Juan being a representative. And so it's just my hope that we will continue to support Juan in his efforts as he continues to push forward, making sure that we have a plan in action to address what's happening at the Plaza of the Flags and what's happening citywide. He's the person that we actually put in the JPA to help
3:58:31assist us work with the county and just hope that as we move forward we'll be able to accommodate and create a plan that works for all of us here and now I think Councilman Villegas has a comment and then I'm going to go to the
3:59:01adjournment. Very very quick comment I want to thank Chairman Andrew Doe for being very receptive to our ideas and welcoming us to his office and and working with us on the issues that are affecting both of us here at the city and the county. And thank you, Mayor Pro Tem, for inviting me to join the JPA.
3:59:14You're welcome. So now we're going to do the adjournment. The next meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, March 6th at 5 p.m. Closed session immediately followed the Reagan Open Business Meeting at 545 here at the chambers. We're going to adjourn the meeting in memory of Margie Richardson, Barbara Lawrence Hill, and Ramsey Aguinaga. I'm actually going to start off with Ramsey Aguinaga and allow Councilman, I know Councilman Benavides wanted to make a couple comments before I read a couple words that his mother, Cecilia Aguinaga, who we know very well, presented to honor his legacy and who he was as a person. Councilman Benavides.
3:59:37Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. And so as we'll be hearing shortly, Ramsey Aguinago was only 39, I believe, when he lost his battle with cancer, to cancer. And he had previously not only is a son of one of our community, one of our commissioners, longtime resident family here in the city, but also former Santana police officer. and somebody who through social media, a tremendous courageous fighter, a father of a young son, I believe about 10 years old,
4:00:14just provided for him a tremendous example of what it is to live life to the fullest. But specifically, an experience I had, it's been a number of years back now,
4:00:56past midnight there was an incident a crash right outside my house and it happened to be actually a driver under the influence that ended up actually crashing into my car car that actually we had just bought we've had like you had like a month and pinning up our car up against our garage so wake up to being startled something like that obviously nobody ever wants to have something like that type of experience. We come out, our PD, law enforcement, Santana police came out very responsive and helped my family address the situation. And I recall actually the officer in particular
4:01:08who was out working the night shift. And I recognized his last name, which is not very common. And it was Ramsey Aguinaga. So we sat and we talked there for a bit and we connected a few times over the years. But I had known his mom and I actually didn't know that Cecilia had a son that was with the Santana Police Department. Very pleasant person, young man, very responsive officer. It was just another example of Santana's finest serving our community.
4:01:50And so it was heartbreaking when I learned of his illness. But again, just that true to the way I had met Ramsey as just a servant and somebody that was a person of character, I mean, that was the case to his final day, final hours last week. So, again, I was personally moved from that personal experience and opportunity I had to be able to be served by him, by Officer Aguinaga here with Santana PD. And I wanted to share that with my colleagues and the community.
4:02:27And I'm sure we've got some moving words here as well as we remember him. Thank you.
4:03:07Thank you, Councilman Benavides. So on February 15, 2018, Ramsey, Aguinaga, you know, and it's just very difficult because I've known Ramsey for a very long time, over 20 plus years. And so, you know, we grew up actually together. And so definitely knew Cecilia prior to, you know, being elected or being a commissioner here in this city and known of the family for a very long time. And so it's difficult here, you know, such a young life to die, you know, so very young. But he was a tremendous fighter.
4:03:11You know, his fight with cardiac sarcoma, he was just a few months shy of his 40th birthday. Ramsey survived by his son. His sunshine, who is Mateus, his relatives, of course, Cecilia Aguinaga, his mother, Armando Aguinaga, his father, Alan, his brother, Sylvia, his sister, and his newlywed wife, Claudia Aguinaga, and his stepdaughter, Naomi Castro. And certainly he was a newlywed, and we got to see really the life of his past months on Facebook, and just to go through that with his entire family, and really just all those that are on social media.
4:03:51I think as Councilman Benavides, many of us were touched to see that he was still fighting with a smile and still trying to live on and really have hope. And to see him get married on Valentine's Day. And, you know, definitely I'm on my Facebook a lot as I talk to Councilman Saloni all the time. It's many times. And so and it's special moments like that that you don't want to miss. And I was able to see that and just brought a lot of happiness to me, knowing that he was still in a lot of pain and his mother, you know, continuing to share, you know, some of the pain that she was going through.
4:04:30And so we got to live through that through Facebook. But again, you know, his life was fought with struggle to live. Ramsey shrunk the tumor and trusted his faith and natural remedies as well. Unfortunately, in spite of Ramsey's tremendous good spirit, his disciplined effort to eat healthier and live healthier, the cancer had its way with his heart. Ramsey died in peace at UC San Diego, health in the company of his closest friends and family. Ramsey did many things in life, from participating in high school and football, creating his own business, to serving proudly in law enforcement for two distinguished police departments,
4:05:10the Los Angeles Police Department and the Santa Ana Police Department. Ramsey often joked about himself and would say, I'm amazing, I'm a loving father, a wonderful, thoughtful son, a protective, caring brother, a handsome, magnetic partner. And that certainly was Ramsey, a loyal, fun friend. And I'm incredibly a hard worker with a mind as sharp as can be. He lit up the room with a smile and always made everyone laugh. His friends and his family find comfort knowing he is now watching over them like he always had. Our most sincere condolences to the Aganaga family. And so I will also move on.
4:05:47And Madam Clerk, if we please can send certificates on behalf of the Mayor and Council. Next, I would like to adjourn the meeting as well. To Margie K. Richardson, February 14, 1938 to February 13, 2018. Margie grew up in Iowa and graduated from high school in Missouri. In 1961, she moved to Santa Ana, California with her son Rob and her mom to begin a new life. Mom treasures her time raising her son in Santa Ana with the help of her mom.
4:06:28They took many wonderful trips together to all parts of California and two long trips to Iowa by train and by car. Upon retirement, she enjoyed gardening in her backyard, her patio, looking for bargains at Big Lots and the Goodwill, and relished every meal at Mimi's with corn chowder. Oh, that corn chowder is really good. And an orange mimosa. She also liked getting malts at Ruby's and Tustin' Orange. And of course, she loved cats too. Her faith in God sustained her through her entire life. A memorial service for Marjorie will be held on Saturday, February 24th from 11 to 12 p.m. at Fairhaven Memorial Park Mortuary,
4:07:03which is at 1702 Fairhaven in Santa Ana. There will be a reception following the service. Intermittent will be at Fairhaven Memorial Park. And I am assuming this is Rob Richardson's mother. As I'm reading this, connecting the dots here, definitely want to send our condolences to our former school board, board member, and of course city council member, and Santa Ana High School alumni and our good friend to this city council and has always been to this great city, Mr. Rob Richardson. Next, we are also adjourning the meeting in honor of Barbara Lawrence Hill.
4:07:44Barbara Lawrence Hill, who died on January 26 at the age of 82 from pneumonia, leaves behind a legacy as a lifelong educator wherever she was and whomever she had encountered.
4:08:26And I want to say, you know, this woman is remarkable for those of you who had the opportunity to read her butuary on the Orange County Register this past couple of days ago. She was a pioneer and a role model. She was Orange County's first black teacher, hired by the San Antonio Unified School District in 1962 as a substitute grade school instructor in the midst of the civil rights movement, and then she became full-time the following year.
4:08:43She got past the racial slights, the threats, the violence, and came through breaking color lines to continue teaching for more than 30 years in Santa Ana and kept her focus on education for another decade and then semi-retirement, substitute teaching, tutoring, and volunteering. Former students spotted her at local supermarkets and would call, Miss Hill, Miss Hill, do you remember me? I had you in second grade and she would remember and detected that they were backsliding from reaching their full potential and didn't hesitate with a stern but loving question in her own why.
4:09:14A longtime member of the Johnson Chapel AME Church, the second oldest African-American church in Orange County. Hill will be celebrated on Saturday, February 17th with the services that started at 11 for those of you who were able to attend. you know this woman who I personally knew leaves an amazing legacy not just in Santa Ana but in Orange County and the trailblazer that she was and I have many friends that had her as a teacher and one thing that folks would say is that she was tough but she had a heart of gold and she transformed
4:09:51and changed a lot of people's lives and I just want to just in with her credentials that I think are important to share, and then her family. Raised in Long Island, New York by adoptive parents, Hill moved here to live with an aunt after graduating high school. She attended Santa Ana College, earned a bachelor's degree at Cal State Los Angeles, and then her master's at Pepperdine University. She married and divorced a U.S. Marine to supplement her teacher's salary she and her sons delivered newspapers she's she loved teaching she loved working with her children to be creative to basically
4:10:30motivate and inspire people to be whatever they could be said Robert Hill the youngest of two sons Hill raised on on the outside summer spent back East and and of course with their military dad Hill taught at several at several Santa Ana elementary schools but most of her career was spent at Madison Elementary, including her last two decades in the classroom. Hundreds of Santa Ana students were touched by Ms. Hill, and we adjoin this evening in memory of decades of dedicated service to our community. And with that, our most sincere condolences to all the families and friends on the loss of these extraordinary
4:11:08members of our community. And this meeting is adjourned.
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