If you can all please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. Ready? Begin. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Here remain standing. We have our chaplain, Doug Hart, giving us our invocation.
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Let's pray.
0:37Father God, we come before you this evening, Lord, and realize that the privileged place that you've put us, God. That, Father, we might come boldly before you, throne of grace, Lord, and find help in our time of need. And Father, we do so understanding very clearly, God, that our ways aren't always your ways. That, God, your ways are higher than ours, Lord, that the plans that we have aren't always the ones that you desire. So, Lord, we pray that by your grace, Lord, we would be able to seek you, Lord, and desire your ways over ours.
0:39God that we would see your plans winning out in our city and in our hearts God. Father understanding your great love for us Lord and knowing your desire to to bring us peace and life. So Lord we pray for those who will be speaking today for our council members as well God that you would give them humility and wisdom God and hearts that are after yours that we might have a city Lord that is prosperous and peaceful Lord because we understand that that's your desire for us. God that this is possible because you have desire to give us everything that pertains to life and godliness through
1:17your divine power and that's been accomplished through Christ. So Father bless this time Lord watch over this meeting have your way amongst us we ask
1:59in Jesus name. Amen. Thank you. You may be seated. Mayor Patel Martinez you're going to go first. A presentation on Purple Heart Day followed by Councilor Benavides.
2:08Mr. Benavides, you want to go next?
2:44They seem to have left the building.
2:48Alright, here we go.
2:55He was eating. Sorry, Juan.
2:59Let's get started. The sooner we get started, the sooner we finish.
3:06So good evening. I wanted my colleague Juan Villegas to join me up here as he is a veteran. For all the veterans in the room, if you are a veteran, if you can please stand.
3:10First and foremost, I'd just like to thank you for your service and your dedication to this beautiful country. And so today, as you all know, we had a dark meeting. We didn't meet in the first meeting of August. and so I was unable to really celebrate with everyone on that specific day, but thank goodness we have a meeting here today, and we're all present to really recognize Purple Heart Day. And before I begin, we all know that those that serve in the military and those that have received this special recognition, they never look at themselves as heroes. They have always looked at themselves as a team
3:34And really, at the end of the day, it is because of those individuals that are so humble, who rarely want to be recognized. But it's important for us as elected officials and as community members to truly recognize the sacrifice that not only they made for themselves, for this country, but for their family. And so it's with great honor to really read this proclamation. But before I do read this proclamation, I wanted to give Councilman Villegas the microphone to say a couple words. And then I'll go ahead and read the proclamation. And then we'll go off to the next presentation.
4:13Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. um judge carter is a uh for many of you that know him is the federal judge that's working with us on this homeless issue if you know a little bit about the judge he is a former officer that served in vietnam and during the war he suffered multiple injuries during an attack i believe it was in came back and he continues to serve his country as a US federal judge and he travels the world
5:02a lot. I know he was in the Far East and I think he's leaving Singapore on Thursday. So he's a very, very busy man. Very distinguished, long record, serving in the justice system here and I'm just very happy to acknowledge him today and thank you Mayor Pro Tem for the proclamation for Judge Carter. Thank you. Thank you, Juan. As Juan, Councilman Villegas,
5:42we're trying to by his first name. Typically don't do that, but as Councilman Villegas just mentioned, you know, we asked Judge Carter to be here today. And again, for those of you who know this individual, very humble. And again, it's never about he as the individual, and so decided not to come here and so wanted to really honor just all those that have been recognized with the purple heart and those as well that have all served in the military and and more importantly thank you councilman viegas for serving our country really greatly appreciate for your
6:11your service and so let me read here what purple heart day is whereas our nation and its and its principles have been defended throughout history by brave and patriotic men and juan i'm gonna have to have you to help me. I have my contacts on and I can't really read the words unless I go like this. So if you can, please help me. So I apologize about that. I have these new contacts that for whatever reason, I can't read up close these days. Whereas our nation, its principles have
6:43defended throughout history by brave and patriotic men and women who willingly sacrificed their own well-being for the cause of freedom and democracy and whereas the Purple Heart is the oldest military decoration still in present use and was initially created by George Washington in 1782 to honor brave military personnel and whereas the Purple Heart originally known as the badge of merit was the first American service award made available for common soldier and is awarded to any member of the United States Armed Services wounded or killed in combat with a
7:16declared enemy of the United States. And whereas the Purple Heart serves as a means to foster an environment of goodwill among the combat wounded veteran members and their families to promote patriotism, to support related legislative initiatives, and most importantly, to make sure we never forget the sacrifices made by those who decorated and whereas our veterans have earned profound and eternal gratitude for their willingness to risk life and limb for the sake of this nation, its people, and our cherished freedoms.
7:55Now, therefore, we, the Mayor and City Council of the City of Santa Ana, do hereby recognize Purple Heart Day and urge the community to join in acknowledging and honoring veterans who have been wounded in battle while defending the principles of democracy, freedom, and human rights.
8:34Thank you.
8:57I'm going to ask at this point that members of the community artists, the Santana Community Artists Coalition, if you would join me up front, please.
9:09Thank you.
9:38that are very generous with their time, with their talent, and believe in the city of Santa Ana, believe in our community, in bringing our community together, they're artists, and they use their talent as artists to give back. And I think we have playing, if not, if we can,
9:59have some of the artwork that they have put together There are four of the community presented here on the screen behind us. I appreciate that by staff. Thank you. So this is the Santa Ana Community Artists Coalition. It's a grassroots collaborative that came together in June of 2013. There you see some of their work. Specifically for the purpose of creating community-based, community-driven mural art projects in the city of Santa Ana. The coalition involves many community leaders, arts administrators, students, educators, local artists, and non-artists alike.
10:23All come from various backgrounds, yet work together to achieve the vision of a more engaged and united community through art. The artists of the coalition create art that transforms public spaces, generates civic engagement, and promotes personal and social change. Along with art, mentorship and education is provided to the young and aspiring adults. community art workshops are offered within the city of Santana as well and today we recognize the work of the Santana Community Artists Coalition for their appreciation of the arts and for their positive effect on the community
10:58as a whole you know I recognize a number of the faces most if not all of the faces here as I've seen them out in the community whether it be putting together arts displays at the Callejo del Beso which is during the art walks in
11:33an alleyway by the downtown where they've put up one of their largest and most beautiful of their mails although all of them are very beautiful in various places in the downtown and out in the community one of the things that I've seen a group here do is in certain areas of the community. Particularly, I know I've seen walls that have been perpetually targeted with graffiti, with negative graffiti.
11:58The artists here have been called on to help turn something that has been typically a canvas of scars, if you will, of graffiti in the community, to turn that and redeem that wall into something of beauty. And so they've gone out and they've canvassed and talked to neighbors, knocked on doors, pulled the youth together, and asked them about. And I'm probably stealing everything, saying everything that you probably were going to say because I would like for you to share a few words. But I've seen it and I've witnessed it. And that's why I wanted to make sure to share it, that I've seen them, again, pull the community together,
12:32gather ideas and then reflect the ideas of the community by putting a brand new mural on again a wall that had been seen as in some cases retaliatory gang signs and graffiti into now something of color, of beauty reflecting the heart and the ideas and vision of the residents that are there and it really becomes uplifting and it becomes something that brings and ties the community together because not only do they give present the ideas that the artists here then sketch but then they incorporate the children they incorporate the family in actually painting the murals and so it's something that for me when I think about
13:13and I often talk about the beauty of Santana about just how wonderful the city is and it really comes down to the people are people being beautiful people with with a lot of their own talents that are very generous and you know do so much to to give back and this is one one group that that does that on a very tangible way so I wanted to make sure to acknowledge and thank you for all of your countless hours of work and if one of you perhaps at least here if one of you would like to share a little bit about your work would appreciate and
13:55would love to hear from you what do you dream of what do you love about Santana? En que sueñas? Que llamas de Santana? Those are the two questions that we usually ask before we paint a mural, a community mural. We have done over 1,000 surveys with the community to date. That means over 1,000 different conversations between project participants and the community about what their city and walls can look like. We take pride in extensive community engagement through workshops and surveys. We feel that
14:31the residents of Santa Ana should have a say in what their walls look like, especially in public spaces. So our murals do take longer than a normal
15:12other sort of type of mural that it comes already with a vision. The vision and the sketch comes from the community. We try to do our best to put these conversations and these surveys into images that then go on the wall when the community comes out and also helps us paint them. We try to involve community members, teachers, children, artists in the project so it's not just artists it really comes to be a coalition every time we're in the community. Just one story I like to share that that was really meaningful for I think a lot of
15:25us is we did a project in the community of Townsend and Myrtle and we did have many risk youth at risk around the area who participated in being part of the process and that had never happened in that neighborhood and there is a park there that is inactivated because of the violence where their moms don't let their children come out during the weekends. We were there for about a month and every weekend the moms would come out and say thank you for being here because it created an open space again in that park. So I know we were very
16:04proud of working in the neighborhood. We're just where we're trying to focus. Thank you.
16:45so alicia thank you for for uh for those words for all of you and all of you all of what you do for our community it's we're uh extremely grateful that you would share again of your your talents the example that alicia mentioned several of the neighborhoods where they've done work that I've witnessed personally, the Myrtle Street neighborhood, Townsend Street neighborhood, the Santa Anita neighborhood and Santa Anita community center, and the Townsend and Myrtle in particular, I generally speaking don't like to highlight the fact that there are plenty of other people to highlight the negatives and challenges of our community,
16:59so I prefer to highlight the strength and the beauty of our city. However, there are these pockets, and those neighborhoods are two pockets where where there have been challenges and impacted by gangs and both of those walls that Alicia mentioned have been for years, I've lived actually in the Townsend neighborhood for 20 plus years and this one wall in particular was consistently a wall that was hit with graffiti and it became a territorial battle and often times when you have gang turf wars, the crossing out of graffiti ends up leading to violence as a result because the rival gang
17:39takes offense and so both of these walls have turned into again, there's been this redeeming factor where now you see beauty, unity, those walls don't get hit with this graffiti anymore and I just want to again thank you on behalf of the hundreds and thousands of families from those communities, the kids, the youth and for generations to come who will positive positively be impacted even as they walk to school it's right across from montavis elementary school so whereas before they saw the gang monikers out there and they had to be faced with the fact that their neighborhood is
18:20being claimed by a gang in this case now they see again just just smiles and color and they were able to be a part of that so very deep and heartfelt you know thank you for all that you do let's give them a round of applause please
18:55so so today I do have a certificate of recognition from the city of Santa and I worded to the Santa Ana Community Artists Coalition and recognition of your outstanding contributions to the community I have one for the coalition as a whole but but I'm gonna ask if and unfortunately there was a miss on our end because I had requested I did want each of you to receive one personally so we will fix that so Daisy if you could please connect with with Alicia and the group I'd like to make sure that we get all of their their their names and that we do correct that and make sure to make those that available to to each of you
19:15because that's the least that we can do so if you would come join up a little bit closer up here and again I'd like to make this this presentation and thank you again for all of your contributions thank you round of applause again for them please thank you
19:54Thank you.
20:18now Council Member Jose Solorio please
20:46thank you Mr. Mayor I'd like to invite up our friends from Habitat for Humanity Orange County please both of you come on up Paula you as well please as you all know we have a housing crisis in America and California and Orange County and part of that crisis includes the need for affordable housing. And we're real pleased and honored that here in Orange County we have a very active Habitat for Humanity. And we have with us today the President and CEO, Sharon Ellis, who, by the way, is also very active in Sacramento.
20:53I know she's been a big part of all the new housing dollars and policies being developed. We also have Paula Garcia-Arsenault, Director of Family and Home Buyer Services, also with Habitat for Humanity of Orange County. I think previously she was with the bank and very involved with our Chamber of Commerce, so we're happy to have her still helping us in our community. Habitat for Humanity is a nonprofit organization. It's headquartered in Santa Ana and it strives to eliminate substandard housing through advocacy, education, and partnership with families and individuals in need.
21:31In order to serve these needs, Habitat assists in the building and attainment of sustainable and affordable housing. To date, they have helped 4,000 women, men, and children through affordable housing, home repairs, and various expenses. Let me give them a round of applause just for that. 4,000 individuals helped.
22:06They began here in Orange County in 1988, which is why we're here. And this organization since then has built 219 affordable homes from scratch, including the sweat and equity of the folks that ultimately live there, and a lot of volunteer help, and a lot of contractors donating services and labor as well. Of the 219, 30 were built right here in Santa Ana. And I know just maybe about two or three months ago, we dedicated, I think it was like four new homes, five new homes in central Santa Ana. And so we're really pleased about that.
22:34And they've helped attain through the process, they've helped individuals attain the dream of home ownership, which is fantastic. The city is extremely pleased to, on behalf of all its residents, on behalf of the county,
23:13recognize Habitat for its 30th year anniversary. We applaud them for their service. We in particular also thank them and want to let them know we appreciate their altruism, their humanity, and their love for our community, one affordable home at a time. Congratulations.
23:29We'll hear from Sharon, and then I'll present a certificate to him.
23:52Thank you. On behalf of Habitat for Humanity of Orange County, we are delighted to do the work that we do here in Santa Ana. Of the 30 homes that we have built here in Santa Ana, I think it's an amazing statement about not only the program, but the families who have been engaged with us. Not one home has gone into foreclosure. In fact, of all of the homes that we have built in Orange County, Not one has ever gone into foreclosure. And I think that is a statement about the commitment that families make when they put in that sweat equity and they are building their home.
23:58I used to be a teacher in this district, so I know the value of family and community. And I think one of the amazing things that I see with Habitat is that we are building homes. It is the families who are helping to build their own house. And what those children see is what grown-ups do when they give back in their community. What they also see is what their parents have done to transform their lives going forward. Our goal is that those families will never be homeless, and that the second generation will be educated, skilled, and purchasing market-rate homes.
24:31So our goal as a Habitat organization is really the transformation of families from instability to stability, and we are honored to be able to do that here in the city of Santa Ana and look forward to building more homes right here. Thank you.
25:10You know, every time I hear a different stat that I like, so, I mean, imagine that 219 homeowners, low income, in over 30 years not one of those loans has went into default that's fantastic and so the sweat equity I know they also do a lot of education to show folks how to balance a budget and make the mortgage payment all those things really help including you know the faith that they have in in those families so again on behalf of the the mayor and City Council it's my honor to recognize Habitat for Humanity on a fantastic 30 years and many more homes to be built in next 30 congratulations
25:32I am now going to recognize Councilmember Sal Tinajero.
26:34I'd like to call up our 2018 National Speech Champions to come on up from the Advanced Learning Academy.
26:53So we have some of our students here that were on the team. There were a total of 11 students from the Advanced Learning Academy. Twelve. I knew that. I was just testing you. And they went to nationally. They qualified out of the school district. So just a little background. Two years ago, the Sandin Unified School District decided to start a speech and debate program that was district-wide amongst intermediate schools. They started with all the intermediate schools. In just two years, it is now in 15 elementary schools, every single middle school, and six of our comprehensive high schools. So the program has grown.
27:08There are scholarships that are offered to our students. So our middle school students compete against each other for a whole year. And in March, they have what's called the Santa Ana District Championships, where the top two students from each event, and there's a total of 12 events, go to nationals representing their school. The Advanced Learning Academy dominated this year. They won every speech and debate tournament that the district offered, which is huge. And their coach, Ms. Barbara Hogan, was also selected by her peers as the coach of the year. So let's give them a round of applause for that.
27:46So what happens is when you have a district that's competing amongst each other, there are those naysayers out there who say, well, they do well amongst each other, but what's going to happen when they go to compete against Florida and Texas and New York and Connecticut and those schools? Well, we answered that. We win. And so our students went up against a thousand other intermediate schools and brought back the national championship here to Santa Ana. So that deserves a huge round of applause for these young ladies.
28:29So just to give you an example, so they had 12 students. Usually the rule of thumb when you are predicting whether or not you're going to win is a good, they call it turn. It's an advancing. So if you have 12 students and six of them make it to quarterfinals, you're looking good. If four out of the six, three of them make it to semis, you're looking good. You want to advance 50% every time. Let me tell you how dominant the Advanced Learning Academy was. They went out there, out of their 12 students, they advanced eight to the quarterfinals. Out of those eight, they advanced six to the semifinals. So it was more than 50%.
29:08And then they advanced three to the finals. So when we were at the awards ceremony in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, I was thinking, I think we might have won. I think we might have won. So when they announced us, I couldn't contain myself. But I want to let you speak to one of our students. Tiffany, come on up. Say a few words.
29:50Hi. And speech and debate has done a lot for all of us. and I'd just like to give a huge thank you to our school district and of course our city councilmen for supporting us and giving us a chance to show that we actually can do something. And yeah, thank you.
30:09So Tiffany was a fifth grader last year and she competed with all of the junior high school students. she could have qualified to nationals last year but she was only a fifth grader and nationals is only for sixth seventh and eighth or for the middle school sixth seventh and eighth so she's only a sixth grader she's a returner I think she's got a great future I want to call up our principal for the advanced learning Academy because it's a unique school and I think it's important that she tell you a little bit about it come on good evening everybody my name is
30:34Kim Garcia and I'm the principal at Advanced Learning Academy. We are part of the Santa Ana Unified District. We are a school of choice. So we offer from grades 3 through 10th this year, we're going to be expanding up to 12th grade. But over the last three years, I kind of just want to echo what Tiffany said. I want to thank our district leadership, our city council, especially one of our council members here, Mr. Sal Tinejaro, for really supporting the district with speech debate. Our coach, Mrs. Hogan, who's just really made our program grow over the last few years so that we are able to get these
31:07students to the national championship. And it's just a wonderful thing. We're a small school of about 370 kids, and to win this national championship and bring the championship to Santa Ana and really make an impact is really special. So thank you.
31:45and I would like to call up Miss Barbara Hogan so I can present her with the certificates there is a certificate that says Advanced Learning Academy in recognition your 2018 NSDA speech and debate tournament champions that goes in her office okay so there are there are other certificates for everybody else if there is someone that we miss please let us know we'll make sure we do that so I'm gonna present these over to you and I just want to congratulate you and what do you think repeat are we gonna repeat all right we're gonna repeat so thank you very much let's take a quick picture
32:06I'm going to wait for the city attorney to return before I ask her if there's any report out. But meanwhile, I'm going to redirect our, oh, here she is.
33:15Madam City Attorney, is there anything to report out of closed session, please?
33:27Mayor, the only reportable action that we have this evening is the Council did authorize us to initiate a nuisance abatement action against property owner in the general area of Harbor and Hazard. Under the red light abatement, we can file a nuisance abatement action to stop illegal activity, and that was decided by a 6-0 vote with Councilmember Sarmiento absent.
33:33All right, thank you for that. Now I'm going to direct our attention to the consent calendar and ask Councilmembers if there are any items that they wish to pull. Yes, Councilman Salodio.
33:5719 aye so maybe we can hear a brief report. All right.
34:13Let's, any other items? If not, I'll entertain a motion on the balance.
34:22Motion approved.
34:27Second by Benavides. Those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed, motion carries. Now let's go on to item 19, aye I think it was.
34:29And then I know Mayor Pro Tem was in Ovo and on some items, and as soon as she comes back, I'll let her record those. 19 aye, if we can go ahead and let's go to Councilor Salonio.
34:42Yes, this item is the Homeless Services Quarter Report for April 2018 through June 2018. Obviously, we have a homelessness crisis in Santa Ana and a lot of good work is being done. And much remains to be done as well, but it'd be great to have somebody from the staff present some highlights from this report.
34:52Good evening. My name is Hafsa Keika, I'm the Homeless Services Manager with the city. Thank you, council member. You are absolutely correct. We have many things and many initiatives that's happening within homeless services. For this quarter, there were about eight major initiatives, which is outlined on about the fourth page. Since this is from April to June of 2018, I did include the Civic Center Plaza operation, which happened in April. And as we can see the change in our Civic Center Plaza, we had, in partnership with the county and the city,
35:23individuals assessed from the encampments and individuals who are connected to housing resources along with supportive services. So that was a major, major change and we no longer have those encampments. On the other side of that we do continue to work with the federal judge in the county on trying to ensure that the unsheltered population is able to find shelter population with the courtyard and other emergency shelters. Another big initiative that happened was the opposition to the Orange County Needle Exchange. We as a city came together along with our partnership
36:02with the Santa Ana Police Department and Chief Valentine and we strongly opposed the Needle Exchange to the California Department of Public Health. Unfortunately that is something that has proceeded to move forward but we are working diligently as a city to ensure that the impacts are mitigated at the community at large. We also continued to work with the Housing Authority in partnership to ensure that we could get mainstream vouchers and family unification vouchers so we connected with the Housing Urban Development and we submitted applications and we will be receiving notification
36:42about those housing opportunities in the in the near future. We continue to also work very collaboratively with the other cities in the central service planning area. So in the world of homeless services, there's a north service planning area, there's a central service planning area, and there's also a south service planning area. And we are a leader within the central service planning area, ensuring that we're working with the other cities to have a fair share and equitability in addressing homelessness. And lastly, what's really exciting is our good mayor has taken initiative to be part of the big 11 cities, and we've been working
37:15very closely with cities such as Oakland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and we have been able to take part of the Homeless Emergency Aid Program, which the Notice of Funding Availability will be available next month. And we're going to be hopefully allocated a good amount, we're projected to allocate a good amount for emergency services to address homelessness. And that has been really good in collaboration with big cities. So very exciting and that kind of sums up the major initiatives.
37:51Thank you very much. In addition to those eight initiatives that you talked about, I wanted to highlight from the work of our quality of life team-Absolutely. Which is a great multidisciplinary team with staff from PD, Parks and Rec, Public Works, Code Enforcement, and County Health Care Outreach Workers. They over this period, that is 23 weeks, they contacted personally 1,100 individuals. Yes. They addressed issues at nearly 800 encampments. Yes. They disposed of 433 shopping carts and disposed of 196 tons of trash and debris.
38:24All through process, all through a lot of care and a lot of referrals and other good things along the way. And so I really want to thank the staff for all their good work. again we definitely still have a lot to do we still continue to see more homeless from outside of satan to come in we're trying to figure out how to you know close the courtyard and and address some housing needs and problems in our community so uh much more to go but i do appreciate the work
39:05done today thank you so much thank you with that i'll move the items is there a second second those in favor please say aye aye aye the supposed motion carries now we go on to the regular calendar I would entertain a motion on item 50A. Move the item. I'll second. Those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed, motion carries. 55A, I would entertain a motion. Move the item. Second by Villegas. Second. Those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed, motion carries. Mr. Mayor. Yes.
39:32I'll let you add your votes. If we could continue item 50A. We've received a couple of letters in the last 18 hours.
40:09Well, you've got to tell us beforehand. All right, let's reconsider 50A.
40:17So we have a request from staff to continue. I would entertain such a motion.
40:25Move the continuance. Do we have to reconsider?
40:30I'll second that. Those in favor, please say aye. Aye. I have the opposed motion carries. Let's let Mayor Pro Tem Martinez read into the record some items.
40:35Mayor, I want to read into the record that I'm a no on 10A, on 20A, 25H no. And I wanted to pull 25N and 25O, but you already voted on it, so I'll just be very quick and brief. Just wanting to let our community know on 25N is, you know, moving forward with our bike station and consultant and just wanting to thank our staff for that. and then 25-0 is keeping our promise and moving forward with the architecture for the lacy park that was a promise that was uh and a commitment you know so we're starting that process i want to thank our parks and rec department for moving forward with that um trying to find the funding
40:45is is not always easy and so our parks and rec department is very uh creative and just wanting to thank them and the community mr mayor and with that those are my comments thank you so with that
41:27we're going to keep going on with the regular agenda. Mayor, we actually need
41:38five votes on 20A and 20B. They're both appropriation. All right, let's
41:41reconsider 20A and 20B. Those in... I'd entertain a motion. Motion approved. Those in favor, please say aye. Aye. So you have five votes. Oh, Mr. Mayor, I was a no on
41:4620A, so you have to wait for Mr. Harrah, you have to wait for Sal to come back on that. On 20A.
42:00All right, we'll reconsider 28. But meanwhile, it's going to other items.
42:0520B has the same requirement.
42:10She voted yes on 20B. Yeah, let me reconsider. I just spoke with Steve and he's looking at me. So I'll reconsider and I'll vote yes.
42:12On both?
42:21On 28.
42:22All right, so we have a five. Thank you, Mayor Potem. She's in a good mood. Can we ask her to do anything else?
42:2455B, I would entertain a motion.
42:31second those in favor please say aye aye motion carries 55 C I would entertain second those in favor please say aye aye aye those opposed motion carries 55 D no I would entertain a motion those in favor please say aye aye those opposed motion carries item 75 a this is time place for a public hearing an ordinance implementing expedited streamlined electrical vehicle charging stations permitting process make a motion to approve uh let me just real quick i open up the public hearing
42:36does anybody wish to address this see no one i'll close it i'll entertain your motion mayor pro tem so she has motion approved second we have a second this is a very good thing electric cars are good and you need charging stations so with that those in favor please say aye aye the supposed motion carries 75b is a public hearing this is the uh uh overlay for the uh uh expanded amend the metro east mixed-use area let me first open up the public hearing see if we have anybody
43:15that wishes to address us see no one i will close the public hearing and bring it to council for
43:54consideration I'd entertain a motion I do have some comments some questions all right go ahead please with regard to the there are a few actions so if I can go ahead from what I I've been able to gather from reviewing this item there a couple of actions one is doing some amendments to the zoning within the existing Metro East overlay zone right which is east of the 55 freeway and then looking at generally speaking and then looking at a potential expansion of
44:01the zone west of the 55. The current boundaries are between the 55 freeway and the 55 freeway essentially along First Street north and south and we're looking to extend it to the west from for a First Street at the five freeway all the way to Grand Avenue. Okay. It's about 33 acres, 52 parcels. Okay. The, can you tell us, there's the extension, and then there's also additional amendments to the zoning, to some of the current zoning, correct, within the existing overlay? Yes. So what we're doing here, this is an overlay, which means the zoning is going to stay the same out there,
44:38but we're putting on this additional layer that gives the property owners additional opportunities for development. and that overlay is essentially a mixed-use type of development it would allow. So that's what the zoning action before you tonight is to allow this overlay to occur. Also, a general plan amendment is being requested to make sure the zoning and general plan are consistent so you don't have any conflicts there. And then we have a few tweaks to the zoning document itself. This is our third foreign-based code, and we've learned over the last couple of them, which is Harbor and the transit zoning code in downtown,
45:17that we have some good standards we want to apply to this one. This is our oldest code, form-based code. We want to update it and make it a little more realistic. So the zoning, there are changes to what the existing Metro East Overlay Zone, correct? And that's what you're referring to as far as the, again, there's several actions, so I'm just trying to understand them. Sure. specifically my question is what type of impact or changes are there to the existing zone and the existing metro overlay metro east overlay zone first
45:48so we're looking to modify the standards in three areas just tweaking the setback standards the current metro east requires a big 100 foot setback in the rear we're looking to make it more consistent with our harbor and transit zoning code a smaller setback there's some open space tweaks we're making make sure the open space is um is aligned with our other standards and then the height of buildings so those are the three code sections we're looking to change for the current metro east okay and and when it comes to the height i'm assuming a line for increase in a little bit slightly increase
46:29in one area from three stories to four stories and then for our office zones from six stories to ten stories okay so I do so that that all is is those changes that you just uh reference with regards metrics overlay zone I remember being here through that whole process and and uh certainly makes sense part of what we wanted to be able to do is is provide that overlay to allow options for the owners of those properties an area that we identified that had uh quite a bit of potential for development uh we've seen some of that uh already and through these uh these changes i
47:03see that we're looking at at being able to to address uh uh update so that so that it allows for this is a gateway into our city so we think the first street needs some some additional attention so so so for those changes i i am uh ready to be supportive the the uh the expansion west of the 55. I do have a few questions that I'd like to follow up on, and I know that Councilman Sarmiento, who's the Councilmember for this district, had some additional comments or questions, also wanted to look into
47:41We spoke this afternoon, Councilmember. I spoke right as I was walking into closed session about five o'clock and so what I'd like to do is make a motion to approve the amendments to the existing metro-east overlay and provide request an
48:21continuation for the expansion so we do have an opportunity to provide some some additional have some additional questions of staff so that that's what I
48:42would be that I'm ready to move forward but why don't we hear from mayor pro
48:54temp first thank you so you know we've this is our second form base code correct third third because I forget Harbor yes Harbor downtown yes so downtown Harbor and then now this here and so what I say I think we did a great job on Harbor's specific plan. The form-based code that took place in up-zoning into our downtown. I don't think we did a good job. And I'm critical because as you have a streetcar coming, and I'm telling the story because I think the narrative is very important, and it's not to be critical of staff, but as we move into the 21st century, we have to understand
49:00that as we move forward, this is not about zoning to help, you know, developers come here and get what they possibly can from the city of Santa Ana with no return back to this community. And we all know that when we look at our coffers, we've been too generous. Our infrastructure matters. The chickens eventually come home to roost. And infrastructure is not cheap to maintain. We know what it costs to maintain roads. We know the life cycles of those. We know the life cycles of our water systems, of our sewer systems, but never do we take into account when we're doing
49:41zoning and land use, factoring those costs in for the long haul. And what's that going to cost the city of Santa Ana? So when we talk about wanting to be innovative, as I look at what happened in downtown we decide to to to up zone part of the downtown and then anything past lacing to our into our train station it's not up zone because we didn't want to destroy the quality of life per se of certain folks in that area it doesn't make sense when you have a street car coming from san anna from the san anna train station all the way into our downtown and beyond and so as i look and
50:23And what we're trying to do, I believe that a form-based code does work, but it works more when you're able to aggregate properties with private property owners. It's not about just giving you the buy right of entitlements, so you don't have to go through this process. process, but it's also important to realize that we want to make sure that when we're developing an area, that we have buy-in and opportunity for all those within that form based code. That's important for us to recognize, and we're not doing that here. So how innovative
51:02this is, is beyond me, and I don't need to be critical, but based on the financial situation of this city. We need to start working with one another collectively within our departments to understand what the fiscal implications are when we're rezoning. As I mentioned, our downtown is our golden goose and the decisions that are being made. And look, I'm the first to say that I'm at fault because I initially thought that when I first supported this, that in totality, the form-based code was consistent. And then I realized when Northgate-Gonzalez
51:39Market is trying to do their project that they have to do status quo. No more than three stories. More parking than housing. I said how did this happen when First American and their building and with the Toll Brothers, what are they doing? Totally different and literally a block and a half away. So we need to be vigilant on this council and understanding that the decisions that we are making today are going to have major implications on the financial impact of this city. And it's not about not wanting to support private development. It's not about wanting to make sure that we don't
52:16get full participation from our community. But it is important to understand the fiscal implications because they matter. The intersection of land use and finance matters. And so when we are not speaking with our finance department, with our economic development department, with our public works department as it pertains to infrastructure and what those costs are going to cost, we're going to be here 20 years from now wondering why we chose to move in this direction when we're not getting the best value per acre. And so I only state these concerns because we only have one opportunity.
52:58And is this opportunity, what you're bringing forward to me today, is this your best foot forward?
53:37Mr. Beard? Vince Fritoso.
53:44Yes, thank you, Mayor Potem.
53:47Do you believe this is a game changer for Santa Ana and we're going to get the best value bang for our buck based on this current form-based code that you're presenting here today.
53:49Yeah, we believe it's a very good plan. Back to the comments you made about the collaborative efforts, we have something called development review that involves every review agency in the city. Building, fire, planning, police, community development, public works. Throw off the table review these projects together. And we're all analyzing all the different impacts of these projects. And before we come before you, we've analyzed it, bedded it through, and are standing behind the recommendations.
53:59I have a forecast before me indicating from 20 years from now what kind of this zoning, what kind of revenue is going to be generating to the city, number one. What are the fiscal implications that pertains to our infrastructure, what that's going to cost, the miles of roads of our sewers, all of that matters. Right? When we talk about one-time money coming in from our developers and we think, oh, we're going to get $12 million. Well, guess what? That's not in perpetuity. That's one-time funds. Who's going to take care of the roads? Who's going to take care of the sewers, the water systems, the lights?
54:22And these are the questions that we need to start asking ourselves, especially in the position that we're currently in. And I don't mean to be abrupt towards our staff. I don't mean to be rude. But I'm just asking these important questions. And I've continued to ask them over and over again. We have one moment in time here, a window of opportunity to do things right. And I personally do not believe when you don't provide me the fiscal projections and analysis for me to make a decision, it is very hard for me to move forward. Because I already know some of the implications.
54:57Not too long ago, we got an email about a water main breaking and what did that cost? Right? And guess what? Many of our pipes are 75 years to 100 years old. So our sewer systems. And guess what? Proposition 6, which is SB1 for our roads, we already bonded our gas tax. We're screwed on that. Proposition 6 moves forward. What money do you believe is going to be coming to the city of Santa Ana to fix our roads? Zero. We're going to be in trouble. And so I think that we need to consider all those things before we make major decisions like this.
55:33I am supportive if we do it right, but I want to make sure that you bring this information back to me. I've met with staff. I've made it very clear that the fiscal implications in regards to land use and zoning are important as we move forward. And with that, those are my comments, Mr. Mayor.
56:15Okay, thank you. Before we go on to additional comments, I just want to ask maybe our city manager or finance. I know I asked some time ago, was there a financial analysis, which is part of what Mayor Pro Tem is alluding to? And I understand that there was. Can somebody speak to that, the projections, costs, revenues to the city, etc.?
56:32Mr. Mayor, I know we're starting as part of our planning commission reports to start doing the fiscal analysis the best that we can, with interesting implications on it, analyzing the projects, figuring out how much sales tasks we generated, how much property tax increases could be done, in addition to all the one-time fees. So we're just starting to do that work right now as part of our reports.
57:01Well, Mr. Mayor, yes, I agree. This is something that we are only now starting to do recently, and it's a direct result of the questions that the Mayor Procham has been asking of us. So it's not been a past practice of ours to do this, apparently, in this city.
57:19And I don't know that, in fact, in fairness to staff here, it probably isn't a best practice, unfortunately, for a lot of cities. I've not seen this happen in any of the cities that I've worked in where they've been proactive, but I believe that it is something that we should be doing, and we've started to.
57:35Additional thoughts or questions?
57:54Go ahead. Thank you, Mayor. Just again, going back to my comments from earlier, I think the Metro East Overlay Zone went through the whole process number, I think maybe 10 years or so. This was approved in 2007, so it probably started around 2005, started first coming through.
58:00And there were some, you know, there's process to look at opportunities for development to bring in additional investment and new development, increasing density and other things based on studies, analysis that had been done, traffic studies, a number of other things. We've seen some investment, some improvement, although frankly I anticipated, and I know it was right around the time that the real estate market took a downturn and all, but I had anticipated that once we went ahead and moved forward with the Metrace overlay zone that we would see quite a bit more.
58:23It's been slower in coming than I had anticipated. However, we have seen some investment. The 1901, I know, I think the one completed project. I know we have a couple of others that are either underway or at least one fully approved and entitled.
59:04So there are some, again, just going back, some additional questions with regard to the expansion into that west from 55 over to Grand that I would like to have us spend a little bit more time to come back and revisit. So my motion, Mr. Mayor, is to approve the modifications to zoning under the existing area. and then continuing the expansion into the West of the, Long 1st Street, West of the 55.
59:21I don't know if there's a second. Seeing no second, is there any other, any other thoughts?
59:57Councilor Villegas? No other thoughts?
1:00:05mr mayor i would just ask for our staff if they can come back with that fiscal analysis and number two if i can get any documentation uh email communication between our staff um and any other uh entities as it pertains to the 45-day notice of of sequa um you know i asked our city manager this morning um you know what major changes we were making obviously um you know notice is very important and number two if we are making these adjustments into expanding as councilman benavidez said and he's not comfortable moving forward before i even any of this comes up
1:00:12to me for me to even consider supporting you know this first phase or second phase i need to see the fiscal forecasting and analysis and two any documentation or email communication as it pertains to the 45-day notice. I want to make sure that we are in compliance. The last thing that I want is this council to move this forward, and then all of a sudden as these projects move forward, we are getting sued. And how is that being business-friendly or economic-friendly to the development community? And we sometimes want to do things right, and we move too quickly, and we find
1:00:50ourselves in trouble and so I want all documentation as it pertains to the 45
1:01:28day notice thank you I think I have a question for our city attorney if I may
1:01:33mayor pro tem right now alluded to the fact that if we move forward with this
1:01:41we potentially are going to be sued by folks no no I did not mr. mayor I said if the council were to move forward that you would want to have the documentation to make sure that we are in compliance with the 45-day notice the last thing that we want is that we are not in compliant and when projects start to move forward we then get a lawsuit and then that delays
1:01:46development well and that's what i was talking about that potential lawsuit um if i could ask staff how long have we been working on this because I think it's been a long long time and is there anywhere where we're not in compliance with any 45 day notice because that's the right five day review or are we not in compliance on any
1:02:13project well and can they provide that to you yes so in the staff report the Planning Commission report, it has a discussion, the CEQA actions there, and on page 75B13, it covers when the comments, B12, B13, talks about the 45-degree period, when the document was off review, when it closed, and the comments were received. So we're in compliance with the noticing requirements. So the public comment period closed a month ago. As far as how long have we been working on the project for?
1:02:39Could you, after the fact, provide more specific documentation? Absolutely. I may have put them. Yes. She wants whatever backup you have for those minutes. I don't care if I have the final commission.
1:03:11I want to see direct documentation that we are protected.
1:03:20Yeah. Thank you. Not a problem. As far as...
1:03:24That's not a problem, you said.
1:03:26Not a problem. We can get that documentation.
1:03:27All right.
1:03:29And as far as long as we're working on this project for... It actually started back in 2014 when the council approved the housing element. One of the items that we identified was some opportunity sites of residential development along this first street corridor between Grand and the Fire Freeway. So one of the projects, AMCAL had to go through a lengthy process, the zone change, during the plan amendment to the EIR, because we didn't have any zoning in place for that project to move forward. So that kind of impetus there, there are several properties along that corridor right now that are impacted.
1:03:30Back in 2016, which Mayor Potem was part of the subcommittee, the development committee, had this issue come up and actually directed staff to move forward on the metro race expansion. And this whole council gave staff money to move forward with that action as well. So you've been working on this for years? years. Yes. And this is finally, we're now here before several months.
1:03:56I'm not given time. When's the last time this came up to us to a committee to actually review in detail before coming to this council? I think this is the first time in several months, maybe even over a year. So let's just be honest. To make a decision like this that is major, that is moving this city, trying to move this city into the 21st century, I have a lot of questions this is not a decision that should just be made overnight simply because we've been working on this for several years so i just want to make that very clear that we should and and
1:04:16and there's only a few of us that sit on that committee now so i'm assuming that many of these council members are here before are seeing this for the very first time and so that's not fair to them it's not fair to us they haven't seen this document in over a year and i believe you could we could have done a better job and and again I don't mean to be critical but this is a big change coming and we should do it right and and I just hope that you know that the staff doesn't think that I'm picking on them but again the we only have a window of opportunity to make sure that what we do down that
1:04:52corridor is going to matter in the long run because it's going to matter for the residents of this community it's not just about housing and what we've done with affordable and what we plan to do we all know moving forward mr mayor we need to do mixed use it needs to be high density has to be live work and play i could go on and on and more importantly how do we work and making sure that we're able to bring all the players and and again i i haven't seen the notes i'm not on the planning commission but i would just ask if i can get any any documentation as well of all of these that the the expansion of this zone how many property
1:05:28owners that we speak to and who if it's documented who are those people thank you
1:06:04do you want to address a few of those questions if you can just simply there have been several
1:06:12outreach meetings over the last year and a half just speak a little slower so sure several outreach meetings we had a sunshine meeting about a year ago but we had about 100 people in attendance then we went out to the uh couple neighborhoods the saddleback view and the i believe it's the line street neighborhoods and walk them through the whole project as well late last year we had a planning commission study session we invited people to attend to that item as well earlier this year and then we had the planning commission public meeting about a month ago so we had at
1:06:17least five meetings i can recall uh interacting with the community and getting their feedback
1:06:44on this project okay i the part that i'm not comfortable with is if we split this up in two in essence which i know is part of what uh councilman avias was doing there's like a lot of folks on the on the west side that have been probably planning and following this process and i don't know that if we pick one over another that um that that's beneficial or fair to everybody by not being on the same page so to speak so um any uh further thought please go ahead thank you mr mayor members
1:06:49of the council first of all i want to apologize giving you a document five days in advance is is not the best thing to do for a dot for a sophisticated project like this we apologize we struggle with providing good public service and quick things and and we struggle with trying to get things to you in a streamlined manner and we did that we took a chance of getting it to you for this agenda to move this project along and again we're sorry about that but we want to be fair to you we want to respect your time we want to make sure that the Planning Commission did a lot of heavy lifting on
1:07:30your behalf for this project they did a lot of heavy lifting you'll see a lot of documentation regarding comments and response to comments to the EIR that are published before you make a decision tonight they're published they're vetted and they're analyzed and each of those are included in your packet tonight before you render decision on an eir now no decision can be made tonight unless you certify the environmental impact report for this project and that's your first action your second action would be to approve the second part of the recommended action but again we can always do better by providing more information to you
1:08:05earlier on, but again, we struggle with trying to get things to you and react to the public need for a streamlined department that operates efficiently. So I want to add that if that helps move this along.
1:08:43Alright, so you're suggesting potentially do the
1:08:59Thank you, Mr. Mendoza, for your honesty. You're welcome.
1:09:02So you're saying potentially, and I can respect that, and I so can Mayor Pro Tem. So you're suggesting maybe approve the environmental component today and bring back for a subsequent meeting the second half, which is the ordinance on the zoning. Is that correct?
1:09:06I'm not suggesting that. I just state that number two can't happen unless number one happens first.
1:09:26So just as I remember why we break them down the way we do in your staff report as a first resolution is, this is one of the few times when the individual council members have to independently state affirmatively that you've reviewed the documents and that you independently have made the decision that the environmental document is satisfactory to you. There's some findings that are in those resolutions. And I think if you can do that tonight, then you would make that declaration, you would have that vote. only after you've done that do you even become eligible to take action and
1:09:32that's what our director is telling you that's the first step and then the
1:10:04others come in line after that well I'm prepared to you know move forward on item one I know that staff has worked for a long long time we haven't had challenges from folks it's been put out for review the challenge period I think is closed so I'm not sure what we would do differently on the environmental
1:10:07components well let's see the the expansion is where I what I'm struggling with because again ten or so years ago I was here when we were when we went through the whole process with the Metro East overlay zone and and there were a number of meetings that were held I believe it I guess it must have been just one public hearing but I know that there were in our if there were maybe more than than the one but I know it was more of an extensive conversation and and and we analyzed and reviewed the the environmental impact report and documents at that time part of what I'm I'm struggling with right now is again
1:10:33the expansion where I still have some questions and and I know councilmen that Part of my comments are tied to the fact that Councilman Sarmiento, who is a councilman for this district, would like to be a part of this conversation. He conveyed that to me directly, and he has some additional questions. And I want to generally, when there are large projects, projects that will impact a specific council area, we do respect and defer to the representative of that area.
1:11:13So that's part of my comments and hesitation. The other is that the environmental impact report addresses not only Metro East Overlay Zone, but it also ties a specific project, which I this is the first that I get any information on this the the Elan project so I have some questions I would like to better understand that project not again it's the first time that that's in it that that's coming before us as well so I simply would we're making a significant decision we're charged with
1:11:52this council members to do our due diligence to ensure that what we're voting on, tying to what the city attorney has indicated, that we have studied, vetted, that we have asked the proper and appropriate questions, and that the action that we're taking is an official action that will impact the community, that area, in perpetuity going forward. And today I'm not yet in a position to do that.
1:12:34Mayor Pro Tem has a suggestion, maybe it's not a bad one, to continue this for two weeks. Councilor Sarmento will be here. In the interim she has a series of questions and suggestions. We could work with staff to potentially implement some of those that's brought back. And maybe at that point we can move together with all of it, not just the Central and the West separately, but move with the whole thing. So why don't, there was no motion earlier. If you make a motion for two weeks.
1:12:58Make a motion to continue for two weeks.
1:13:28all right we have motion to second yes comes under salaudi yes uh consistent with some of the other
1:13:29comments uh i would like to learn more about future economic potential uh with the expansion that that's number one secondly i want to better understand what the improvements are to the existing area uh as opposed to obviously everything uh you know west of the freeways is all new, but I know that there's some distinctions to what you're proposing for the existing area. And I know there's quite a bit in the report in the PowerPoint, but if you can add anything else that may be missing, that would be fantastic, because I do view the options are approve it all or treat the two segments differently.
1:13:36Thank you.
1:14:17All right, so with that, we have a motion and a second for a two-week continuance and a lot of work in between. Those in favor, please say aye. The opposed motion carries. Item 75C, there's a resolution to authorize negotiation for the sale of portions of city owned real estate at 1301 and 1305 West 12th Street, non-general fund. Does anybody wish to address the City Council on this item as part of the open testimony? Seeing nobody, I'll close the public hearing. I'll bring it back to council for consideration.
1:14:20Staff, can you do a very brief
1:15:02presentation on this?
1:15:08It's just a sale of two lots, I believe. Bristol, Washington.
1:15:13Near Bristol, Washington. I believe, and I guess one of my questions is the source of funds that says non-general. Good evening. You had some questions related to the item? Just a quick brief on the item that you're asking us to vote on. So on the corner of Washington and Bristol, southwest corner, there is a small shopping center with a 7-Eleven. The property owner there was impacted by the Bristol project. We did a partial take of some of the parking along Bristol.
1:15:18So also to the south of that property, there's a cul-de-sac on 12th Street. So it's going to carve out. You can see that in the exhibit for the page 75C3. You can see the bulb of the cul-de-sac there on the north side of 12th Street is going to carve into those properties that were acquired. and so it's kind of an odd shape that's I believe just slightly over 8,000 square feet and this property owner has expressed interest in acquiring that property to replace the parking that he lost as part of the acquisition we did on Bristol.
1:15:54So what you're asking us today is to authorize negotiation, direct negotiation with that property owner. The property is immediately to the west. Is that residential single family that would be then adjacent to that expanded parking? Correct. Per the Bristol specific plan, these two parcels in question are zoned commercial, so it's consistent with the specific plan. So all I would, if we go into negotiation and eventually end up reaching agreement, just want to make sure that we are very intentional about mitigating any impacts to the single family residential.
1:16:29At one point they had other homes and now they would be potentially having commercial parking lot there adjacent to that. So whether it be walls or vegetation or just different things to be able to respect and address the privacy of the single family homes.
1:17:06So you addressed my question. I'll go ahead and make motion that we authorize the negotiation commenced. All second.
1:17:30All right. We're motion sent. Go ahead. And then you can go ahead.
1:17:38This is on Bristol Street. I know there's a lot of work being done in this area, so there is some merit to bringing this forward. But I would suspect that along the entirety of Bristol Street, there are a number of vacant parcels owned by the city where there are adjacent property owners that would like to purchase land for whatever the need might be why is it that this item is before us and not many of those other proposed purchases? In most cases with the other
1:17:43properties that the city holds or actually the project the Bristol project holds is that those can be assembled into sellable properties. This here is is not of independent utility it's too small for residential the shape is odd and the adjacent property owner has expressed that interest so it's kind of low-hanging fruit as far as releasing this project do this these properties and also bringing that revenue back to the project no I appreciate that but but
1:18:17in full honesty I mean we've had I think a conversation now for about two years on figuring out a game plan with respect to all the vacant properties owned by the city and fig finding a fair process to sell them and I'm sure that there are a number of folks up and down Bristol that can make the argument hey that this portion is too small nothing else can be a good use for it sell to me there's this process for direct negotiations etc and so I'm just kind of skeptical that really this is the only situation and so I'm kind of puzzled as to why only this
1:18:48one and not the various others number one and number two why aren't we really using this as part of the new package and the new process that we've been working on for for two years so for those reasons you know i won't be supporting this item just because uh i i feel that these one-offs while there's merit to them uh you end up holding everything else and creating an unfair process where we're trying to create fairness, but yet we keep doing this one-off deal. So for those reasons, I won't support it today. Thank you.
1:19:27Council Member Villegas.
1:20:00Mr. Mayor, thank you. Mr. City Manager, some of those lots that we have along Bristol, they're tied to transportation, so we can't do anything with that. I mean, if we were to sell them, the money's going to have to go back to transit. Is that correct?
1:20:01Yes. Yes, council member, whatever proceeds come from the sale of any of these parcels that were purchased initially with transportation funds, those proceeds have to go back to transportation related projects, specifically this corridor here. So it doesn't come to the general fund unless it was originally purchased with something that's eligible to-
1:20:17So not all the lots, what I'm saying is not all the lots on Bristol fall under this. To me this is a unique point here that this lot is very, very small and of course it's impacted because we were using some of the street and I see. But I think the public should know that not all those lots along Bristol are up for sale. They have certain ties, is that correct? Right. You need to transportation and things like that. Some of those lots we need to be able to store things while we're doing some work.
1:20:39That's correct. I mean, I think to what Mr. Gabriel mentioned, some of the other parcels, remnant parcels, are next to other remnant parcels where you can assemble something more useful and productive. In this case here, this is not adjacent to anything else that can be assembled. And what we could do to satisfy Council Member Solorio's inquiry, we could actually come back with an analysis to see if there's anything else out there that fits this description where there isn't much we can do and we can bring those to you and get authorization to move forward on those.
1:21:17My comment is just not to mislead the public along all the lots that are down in Bristol. That's all.
1:21:49But I do want to make the clarification, though. All those parcels, even though based off the source of the money, proceeds may need to go to a certain place, it's the authority of the city to sell those parcels. whether they're assembled or not. And again, the value of the use of the property is in the eye of the beholder. I mean, everybody can make the case this is good for this or that. But I'm just talking about creating a process for the city. We have all those vacant parcels. We are responsible for zoning them, for selling them, and having a fair process.
1:21:55And this one is being considered separately from the remaining, I don't know how many there are. the others probably 30 to 60, and we also don't have the profile to see the sizes, shapes, et cetera, but yet we're doing this as a one-off, and that's the only point that I'm making.
1:22:28For me, this is common sense just by looking at the diagram.
1:22:48Right, and so that is our rationale for bringing this one separately. The other thing is the policy that you're referring to, Councilor Ms. Lourio. I brought that back probably beginning, In fact, when we had the interim director, Zershmeed, and we've tried to come, you know, we've brought it back a few times, and we've not been able to get traction on this policy. It's an administrative policy. So right now we've been having other things on the agenda, and so we haven't brought it back just as a matter of scheduling, but it's been ready to go. We'd be happy to bring it back again.
1:22:50Maybe we'll go through the committee, and, you know, I don't know what to do at this point. but this one here was unique enough and we wanted to advance it because we really thought we need to start disposing of some of these parcels. I would offer to bring back any others that fall in this category without approaching the property owner, just to bring them here, just to show here's the others. After vetting this, these are unique where they can't assemble. We can't assemble it for anything else. And then we would seek your authority to then approach the adjacent property owner or figure out how to dispose of them.
1:23:25We could do that in the interim.
1:23:54That might be a good idea. Now we're seeing the work on Bristol. We want to clean it up. We want it to be nice. And we're going to start allowing the sales of some of those parcels. Let's at least look at that Bristol Street 4 to see what else may be a utility to sell it.
1:23:55So we can get rid of those first. You know, those that are unique and whatnot, we can at least dispose of them earlier rather than later. And then we'll keep the other ones that require more analysis and review.
1:24:12I make a motion to approve. I think we might have a motion and a second. Just go ahead. Quick clarification for staff. What makes, as I see this, what makes this unique in addition to the fact that we've got these two remnant parcels that are adjacent and that are irregular shape and might not have much utility. By the widening and the take, so we have a commercial property there at the corner, that southwest corner of Washington and Bristol. in order to to widen bristol we've taken a portion we've eliminated i imagine a number of parking
1:24:23stalls in that and that we've eliminated we've reduced the parking lot itself so imagine we've reduced the number of vehicles that can park in that that is correct and the parking lot that was that is currently there is for a much older standard this would allow this property owner to bring up the entire site to current Bristol standards. So it would be a beautification at the same time of that whole site. So it's an opportunity to increase the visual aesthetic of that property. And just for the addition to that, the sake of economic development
1:25:02and ensuring that this commercial location has the adequate parking to be able to support the businesses that are there on site, That's one of the other pieces that I see that's unique to this. The need for widening has had now this negative impact with reference to reduced parking for that commercial site. That's part of the other reasons that I see merit for this, because our action as a city to widen has had impact on that property and business, and again, want to be able to see that economic development.
1:25:39take place so for that reason i think i made the motion or second yeah i think we have motion a
1:26:19second mr mayor i have a comment go ahead um just for the same reasons that councilman salario stated um i too cannot be supportive and as well as i i think some of the issues that i have is that i think we've talked about this for several years and obviously i know the former interim economic and community development director tried to bring the policy forward to us but I would not be recommending into this council approve that policy why we are here I I don't understand obviously I know you're trying to do your job so but this is a decision of the City Council here and as
1:26:23we move forward and and I look at all these properties you know again I'm going to go back to, you know, what is a return on investment back to the city? You know, what are we, you know, you know, what, what are we going to be zoning this for? What value, what is the current condition in the fiscal impacts currently now that the city is generating? Obviously the current conditions, because it's off the property tax rolls, we generate zero. We're moving forward to, to, to, to sell these properties. Okay. Well, what's it going to be zoned and what is, and what,
1:27:05what is going to be the condition and what, what, what are we going to get back in return per acre? right and so those are the questions that I ask of you all before we continue to do this we all know the financial issues that we're having and let me tell you there's a big difference between sales tax and property tax we all know that sales tax is volatile it moves with market conditions property tax we know that when you're a homeowner a property owner you don't pay your property tax what happens? You're going to get a lien, one, or the bank's going to take it away from you. So we
1:27:36all know that the golden goose is property tax in a city. And we need to make sure that we're getting the best value per acre. We're just not giving up our land just to give it up because someone wants to buy it to do something. And so again, I'm going back to what can we do as a city to make sure We only have so much land, so many assets. What are we doing with it? And I don't think that we're thinking things through 100%. Because when we sell this off, that's it. And then what? So let's consider all these things. And again, it's not that I'm trying to be a bully here.
1:28:10I'm gone in two and a half months. I'm trying to do my best to help this city generate revenue. We need the revenue. In 2021, we're going to $85 million in paying out pensions. That is very troubling. That's not enough revenue to sustain. So I just ask us to try to make the right decisions on behalf of the residents of this community. That's it. Thank you.
1:28:51Mr. Mayor, just two more comments and then I'll leave it alone for today. I could see that in two weeks if we don't have the support today, I'd be willing to approve this for the economic development reasons, but only if there was an assessment of the rest of Bristol Street, what the parcels are, what the opportunities are, tax implications, whether there's interest. That's part one. Part two is also just messaging. Just last weekend someone was telling me, hey, there's this empty parcel on Bristol. I'm right next to it. I could use it. Nobody else can use it. You know what I told them? We're trying to find a fair process.
1:29:18We're going to put them all on a list together and sell them together. Little did I know that just a few days later we'd have another special deal for who knows who. And I don't know any of the people, so it's not like if I'm criticizing for or against. But just, you know, that there's that fairness piece that we've been promoting these past several months. And this isn't it. At least if we kind of see a roadmap of where we're going, I'm okay to put this at the front of the line, but we need to have some fairness. Thank you.
1:29:55If I may address the concerns and the comments I heard today. I'm Fuad Suiz, Director of Public Works. We have about 90 parcels along Bristol that will go through the process. The answer that you gave to the constituents is absolutely correct. This particular parcel has only limited uses, and the best and the most efficient use for it that will help the city, whether it's tax base, is to join it to the adjacent parcel.
1:30:28Even if we come back with a plan for all those 90 parcels, the recommendation for this particular parcel is to join it with the adjacent one. But I agree with you. I've been studying those parcels, and we want to come up with a plan, a comprehensive plan for the entire Bristol corridor. What is the best and the most efficient use for each parcel that will benefit the city and then present it and sell it as, you know, like whether it's exactly as a package through a very well-studied process, whether to adjacent property owner
1:31:02or to anyone else that will give us the best deal for the city.
1:31:39Thank you, Mr. Director, for using common sense on this one. Thank you. That's right.
1:31:45All right, so we have, did we amend the motion, we're just going to continue it, or what are we going to do?
1:31:53We got it? All right. So those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Three ayes. Those against? No. Jose? No. All right. So it doesn't pass. I move that we continue for two weeks. Second. Those in favor, please say aye. Aye.
1:32:00Those against the continuance? So it's unanimous for two weeks.
1:32:25all right
1:32:33item 80a
1:32:38this is a joint session of city council on the housing authority i would entertain a motion on item 80a motion moved second those in favor please say aye Aye. Aye. Those opposed motion carries. Item 85A, I'll call on Mayor Potem, Michelle Martinez.
1:32:45Yes, Mr. Mayor, I'll be very quick because I don't know where the council is at, but as we move forward with the state and the state coming down to give cities money for the homeless issue and for housing, currently now we don't have the zoning. We need to be prepared so when that money does come down the pipeline that we've identified certain sites.
1:33:03But one of the things, as I've been talking to some members of the council and our staff, is as we move towards wanting to build attainable housing or dignified housing, I call affordable housing attainable housing, changing the name of wanting to make sure that we have attainable housing for all, and then the dignified housing for the homeless. it's important for us as we move forward that when we're asking private developers in particular like these motel conversions how do we figure out a way to still meet the needs and wanting to provide the housing that's necessary
1:33:25for that vulnerable population and getting them housed because it's much cheaper as we all know but at the same time there are some financial impacts to the city because when you take a motel out and someone's purchasing it and then they're getting federal funds, state or federal funds, typically there can be some covenances, right? It can get off the tax rolls for a period of time. And so I'm wanting our staff that if we do move in this direction to get the zoning, that how do we figure out that whoever is going to look at building this kind of housing,
1:34:00that they continue to partner up with the private sector and look at going beyond just providing just housing for dignified housing and how can we do mixed use and provide office space obviously we need the NGOs to actually provide services so wouldn't it be cool to have some of these non-profits lease space in an area like that and having some retail too because obviously we want folks to shop so if we were to look at recreating our model and look at this as a prototype and figuring out that where we can generate revenue and having at the bottom retail
1:34:39second level some office share space where our ngos are able to to utilize that space and still provide services to the homeless population and then above have the housing for the homeless i believe that's the new direction that we need to take in cities if we want to continue to be sustainable and continue to provide that kind of housing because if you want to do a standalone project you know there there's a lot of financial implications back to the city and we've been very generous and we talked about that yesterday and we need to move beyond being generous as a city
1:35:16because if you look at south county and other cities they're not that generous but we have a heart we want to do right but at the same time we want to make sure that we are also generating revenue to help sustain those kinds of projects. And so I would just ask my colleagues, as this money comes down the pipeline, we really do need to consider identifying one or two sides, because I made it very clear to our staff that we're almost there at meeting the need. We've just recently done the orchard. We just approved right now Jamboree housing to do the veterans.
1:35:49You know, we can't house everyone permanently here. And I think all my colleagues agreed to that, but we still have some work to do and if we're going to want to get that money from the state we need to be ready and unfortunately right now we are not ready to receive that money because we don't have the zoning for those properties and the last thing that we want is for jamboree if they do choose to come back and apply how long it took them you know it took them six months to a year to go through this process and now two to three years to get their funding you know by the time
1:36:22they build you know we're five years in we need the housing to we need the housing yesterday and so we need to be creative so mr mayor i brought this forward because los angeles is a ready position to receive their funding they've already zoned and they're ready to go so when that money comes down from the state you know they're they're ready to take all right let's see what other feedback we have to the attention of my colleagues uh because it is going to be coming down i would
1:36:53suggest we direct staff to come back with the plan as to how we identify these sites so if money comes we know what we're doing correct yeah so so can that in essence be a motion let's see if there's support for your motion make a motion to ask staff to
1:37:19prepare some information that can be brought back to the city council in regards to identifying one or two sites and what that will look like and also they can also provide us some financial you know what are those support that's coming down from the state will be very valuable and how much money the city could actually receive would be fantastic okay we have a motion I'll second that motion okay those in
1:37:38favor please say aye aye aye there are those like to just support with with comment we took action tonight I wanted to get well there was a Jamboree housing but not I thought in general to be able to position ourselves
1:38:05to receive funds from the state for yes that was a declaration of local sheltering in emergency or crises and that would be in order to receive the one-time monies that Mayor Pulido and the other top 11 mayors lobbied for. That is what that resolution would allow us to do.
1:38:23That's one-time monies, but we have to be prepared to be able to receive it. Okay, so additional dollars or funds.
1:38:43So again, I'm supportive. Definitely makes sense for us to position ourselves. The one thing that balance that I would like to make sure that we're also looking at is that Santana, we are a compassionate city. We've been taking the lead from permanent supportive housing, a number of other projects that we have taken action on, supported, provided zoning for, provided funds for, and at the same time, as we potentially look at identifying other zones, we want to make sure that we already did SB2 number of years back for areas,
1:38:52commercial areas within the city where shelters and such could be allowed to establish by right I just want to ensure that we have a balance and are not making ourselves the capital of some of these homeless services throughout the county that we, again, it's shared. So just something for us to be mindful of going forward. Again, supportive of the idea, position ourselves and be ready for funds, but I also want to make sure that there's a balance.
1:39:26All right, we have a motion and a second. Those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. The opposed motion carries. now now we're going to recess and I believe madam clerk go to the housing authority meeting so I would entertain a motion and on number two I would want to include a councilor Vince Armiento under excused absences and make sure that that also includes the rest of the council meeting second so we have motion a second that's on items one through four those in favor actually let's go ahead and go all the way through five those in favor please say aye I suppose motion
1:39:58carries see no housing authority comments let me let me right now just before we leave completely 85 a Robert seglin and I and they just want to speak
1:40:38on 85a go ahead go ahead I go ahead good evening mayor Pulido and respectful Santana city council meeting if you give me more time I will give more time so
1:40:56you can put a no at the end of the name all right all right you got a green again now let's hear it loud and clear okay
1:41:12See, he can say it. He can do that. Go ahead.
1:41:21It's connected with agenda. I consider that Santa Ana City Council is a very important city, important your work. and when my son Nate keeping isolation in group home in Santa Ana tortured exterminated by director of Orange County Regional Center Larry Landauer his praxis director of DGS Nancy Bergman owner and money laundering can man Luis Pena psychiatrist
1:41:49is Kapo Rafael Wagnin for personal profiteering from public funding that's why I'm coming here that I want to talk to the public is a two word two world one is a decent people another word with people like I listed the connection of agenda 858 I support the agenda for supportive housing because it's for poor. It's for people who need it. But I do not consider
1:42:29that Santa Ana has to have such places as a group home when people are captured, exterminated in eugenic, enforced sterilization program by euthanasia, disabled, poor minorities. It's disgusting. My son Robert is going to provide more sophisticated details and language because it's my first language, English. Thank you.
1:43:08Thank you. Robert Girard.
1:43:40Honorable Sanana, City Council Robert Seglin, Brother Nate Seglin. Related to this item regarding an emergency ordinance regarding homeless people, if you recall a connection between a federal judge, what's luckily at least he gave some orders on behalf of homeless people who were allegedly either mistreated or their belongings were taken away or they were arrested. I guess it was directed to the board regarding the sheriffs. I guess it would be also regarding the Santa Ana City Council, regarding police officers to make sure that they wouldn't too much abuse their power
1:43:43regarding homeless individuals, regarding their rights, first illegal searches and seizures, and so forth. The connection in the case of my brother was that the illegal searches and seizures occurred when he was in his residence. So how much more invasive that could be considered, which is to reinforce that the board's jurisdiction in the matter of the sheriff, of course, it's the public defender that's the board. But my father might have alluded to regarding the officers, although they're not judges and lawyers,
1:44:23but nevertheless there's certain limited things such as checking on my the welfare of an individual like my brother has alleged not only physical abuse but seizures and EPS and maybe allowing officers to enforce investigations medical investigations and so forth this of course I agree that the Board of Supervisors is quite culpable in this area but I would be supportive of such an ordinance on behalf of the homeless and also move in the direction of trying to do investigations on the case of individuals who are confined, particularly my brother in San Ana, 903 South Harmon Group Home.
1:45:04So you can look at the probate case, A246780. That's in the probate court, and you would be able to get a sense, hopefully, to be able to resolve this together with the board, obviously, because this is in the court. this is a conservatist matter thank you thank you Robert now I'm gonna direct
1:45:44our attention to the successor agency meeting and entertain a motion on items one through four those in favor please say aye aye I suppose motion carries four was actually comments and there are none so let's go on to a brief a redesigned city website preview, please.
1:46:02Thank you, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, and members of the City Council. As you're aware, the IT department has been working for some time now to upgrade the website and implement a web content management system. And I'm really excited about this project because I think that the website is so instrumental into allowing the residents and visitors to access and interact with the city, whether they're just getting information or doing business with the city, whether it's on a PC, a laptop, a tablet, or even a cell phone. And unfortunately, the tools the city is currently using for the website are very limited
1:46:31and makes it difficult for staff to keep the data current, to keep the information viable and relevant to what's going on. And so this new web content management system is really going to put us up to the point where we need to be to give better information. We're fortunate enough to have a good partner help us in this, 360 Civic, And we have Ron Zias, the CEO of 360 Civic here today.
1:47:12And he's here to give you a quick sneak peek preview at our website so that he can tell you a little bit more information about what we did and why we did it. Ron. Thank you for your time today. And I will be brief. I know you've had a long night. Up on the screen, we have the new presentation of the website. A couple of things about it. I mean, it does have a much more modern design. It has a cleaner look to it. It pops with the colors from the city. It has a nice white background, and it's designed to use a lot of the photography,
1:47:46a lot of the beautiful scenes and photography that can be from Santa Ana to be used throughout the site. It also uses photography and icons to be able to help people who have different language skills to be able to see what the key things are. But more important than even how it looks are the new features that are on the website. For example, up at the top, we condense down the menus, and the menus we'll be using allow people to get to the most popular features of the website within one click. It also helps explain some of the services.
1:48:18So rather than saying something like planning, it'll say, you know, how to get a permit to build a house, how to get a permit to start a business or get a business license, things like that. So it's much more explanatory to allow people to interact more with the website. And all of this, by the way, is built not only on the analytics of what was going on with our current website, but on social media and other types of surveys that we did before we even started on this. Also at the top, if you can notice up here next to the search bar, we have a language menu.
1:48:50It will allow people to select their favorite menu or their favorite language and what they're most comfortable with. If we have something that's very important, it will be professionally translated. it. If not, if they've selected another language like Spanish or Tagalog or Vietnamese, it'll show the page using Google Translate to at least be able to give them a much more friendly feel to the website. The website is also completely mobile friendly. 45% of the traffic for the city of Santa Ana comes from mobile devices. And based upon the demographics of the city,
1:49:23we've made this very simple, not only in the main design, but to keep moving forward as new content is added. We've also moved in here our top services so that people are able to come through and do the things that are most popular in the website from one click, whether it's make a payment or report an issue, something like graffiti, or be able to look for permits and for parks and library. They're one click away from getting the most popular areas. We've also created an area for notifications on the right, so things like street closures or if a bus
1:49:54route is being interrupted or something for schools, these can be put up almost immediately and they'll be very important to be able to show off to the people in the city immediately what's happening and what's important to the city. We also have emergency banners that aren't shown here but can be activated with a cell phone from authorized individuals so that there's an earthquake, if there's some type of fire, if there's some type of emergency, we can quickly tell people in the city where they need to go, where a shelter might be, or what they need to do.
1:50:27And because the website is redundant and held off of here, it isn't affected by things that would be locally happening here. Moving a little bit further on, we have our featured content area. This is where we can put stories about the city, a nice big visual. We can talk about things like fiestas that are going on or anything new that's going on in the city and highlight it very prominently on the website and also with search engines. And then below it, we have areas to be covering stories that might be of interest. It may not be the most featured story, but it's a visual. It has words. It lets somebody click into and find
1:50:57more about it. On the side, we have our events, and these are events that are not only curated by the communications department, but the individual departments can say, I have an important event, and I'd like to have it show up on the home page along with my department page, and that information will be there. And to keep it current, it's very easy for them to add it. And more importantly, when it is added, it'll automatically go on the right date and come off when it's outdated. So the website is always looking fresh and pertinent to people to get them to come back. As we go down a little further,
1:51:34we'll have all of our social media feeds here. And these will be real-time feeds that will be coming in from the city properties for social media. So very prominent to allow people to see what's going on in the city. And then our section, which we're very proud of, our Santa Ana section. This is where we create content that brings in all the different content from the website in an area that's more relevant in how people can identify themselves. One of these boxes, for example, is residents. So if I'm a resident, what do I need to know? I need to know about garbage collection, or I need to know about paying my water bill,
1:52:05or I need to know how do I interact with the city, or what events. These all lead to landing pages that bring all the resources from the website together from the point of view of a resident or a business owner or of youth or of recreation or education. So it allows us to bring the hundreds of thousands of pages that we have on the website today in a way that is more nicely organized for the city and for the citizens of the city. And we can have as many of those as possible. Underneath it, we also have interactive maps.
1:52:38People can come in now and choose a category and say, I want to see all the fitness locations here in Santa Ana. Or I could look for businesses, or I could look for libraries and parks. And it's an interactive Google map, so they can then get directions for it. They can zoom in. They can see what's around it, see pictures. All of that's easily done from your new website. If I may just show you two other quick things.
1:53:14When's my dashboard coming?
1:53:40I'm sorry? Yes, well, and I'll show you the the dashboard as far as I'm sorry to be more specific
1:53:42Well, let me I was gonna show you the library
1:53:54But if you give me two seconds, let me show you the library real quickly and then I'll show you that out that dashboard Here's a landing page for library services again uses very visual images along with wording and clean buttons for people to be able to come in see exactly what they want, see clean information on the library, when is it open, who's our contact, if I need to do for any department, how do I contact with them, and then be able to see all the services that are here. And all of this is built on a content management system. So what that means is that people from the library get to update their own information.
1:53:57People from the police department get to update their own information. And they do it in real time as simple as using Word. They don't need to know HTML. They don't need to know programming. and it doesn't all have to funnel through one department in the city. It makes up-to-date information much easier to get up to the website. And then finally, to show our open government transparency, something you've been talking about here throughout, we have created a portal for open government. And this allows us to take data in lots of different formats. For example, we have outside services like GIS,
1:54:32where we can click on through here and it'll take us to all the GIS services. We'll be adding a button here soon for all the police departments, OpenGov, and these will also be straight out through the departments. And then we can break into individual areas like business permits and be able to show how people can come through here, see active businesses, see exactly the information that they want and when it was updated, and either download that information or sort through it right here on screen and see what's there.
1:55:09This can be police information. This can be housing information. This could be permitting information. Anything the city wants. We've not only created the portal of how to show it, we've created an engine for how to take data from lots of different sources and make it available to other people. In short, there's a lot of new things on this website. We've been doing training for three days. We've been working on this for months. We are moving toward a soft launch, and I'll leave that for the staff to explain further.
1:55:39But the main thing here is I think you have a lot of people who are excited about the kind of information that they can provide and take a lot of the work that you're doing here and publicize it in the best way in the benefit of everybody who lives in Santa Ana.
1:56:06I appreciate your time. If I could take council comments, please, Mayor Pro Tem.
1:56:19I just want to be just thank you. Thank you, Jack. Thank you to your staff. Thank you to our city manager and the various agencies. I know we've been working on this for a long time when we brought you on, Jack, as the chief innovation officer. I know people were like, well, what are you trying to do here? Why are you trying to bring somebody like this? And this is the reason being not only that internally what you're doing to secure our systems and integrate these systems. They matter. What happens in here internally, we cannot do our job externally.
1:56:22And more importantly, as we say that we want to be transparent, obviously at times the data that we currently have, people have to come to City Hall where our clerk is bombarded and trying to get information out. if we're able to streamline that and put this in a format where folks can actually get their own reports, that only makes the lives of our employees much easier to go and do the other things that you all need to do. And so thank you to your entire team. I really greatly appreciate it, and I know our residents are going to appreciate this new website. I'm excited for the launch. And again, just thank you.
1:56:54Thank you. Any other comments? Councilor?
1:57:34Yes, likewise, good work. It looks fantastic and I'm sure we'll all enjoy looking at it and playing with it. I do know that on our current website, we do have some open data features also, although they are limited. That's one of the big priorities for me. I know Anaheim has a very robust open data platform on their website. For the sections that you mentioned, particularly public safety that I'm the most interested in, is the data that we'll find via our current search tool as comprehensive as if I were to click the same functions in the Anaheim website?
1:57:38Yes, I think you'll find it very comparable to the, I'm sorry. I think you'll find it very comparable. I think you'll find not only in the first iteration that it's extremely comparable, But I think when you see the direction that the staff and everybody is moving toward and the tools that they now have to do it, you're going to be, you know, it's going to be a tool that's going to continue to grow and be very, very usable to people. Let me just say that we've worked with large cities like the city of San Diego. I just want to do a quick shout out. This staff has been the most motivated staff that we've worked with.
1:58:18They've been involved in every single step. it has been a pleasure for us to do this website because of the excitement of the main staff and of all the other people we've been training and working with it
1:58:51so I appreciate that. Okay you know and I understand too this is kind of the version where we're starting it but it'll add and and grow and staff and others will get better at using it adding functions to it another big benefit to a stronger public safety search element is right now there's a lot of independent crime databases out there and they're not always accurate or they don't really sync data well with our police department and we'll get complaints about you know some of those uh you know crime mapping tools elsewhere not being active so uh that's another big reason for
1:58:59you know getting this right because uh this town and many that's extremely important and if i may
1:59:37part of what you've done with building this foundation is that you become the definitive source through Google, I think you're going to see your numbers go up significantly. So when people are searching outside of your website for information on Santa Ana, you will become a much more relevant search on all the different topics, which helps lends to exactly what you're talking about, that people will come here for accurate information rather than being led to other places. Great. Thank you so much. One of the things to point out, too, is the police department just recently implemented
1:59:41a new records management system that they didn't have before, and our intent is to be able to pull information out of that system to make available whether it through dashboards or raw data but we're working with the police department but they're still fine-tuning the rollout of the rms but as that gets more mature it'll tie right in with our system
2:00:10and it'll get better okay thank you all right thank you we've got a couple more comments and we have eight speakers for our public comment uh quick comment councilman uh america a couple
2:00:31things. One is I want to thank staff for their work. One of the priorities the Council has been transparency, access to information, accessibility for City Hall and through this using technology to be able to make us more available and accessible. So I want to thank staff for their work and Jack and your team and the rest of the staff. Clearly accolades here from our contractor but knowing that you're motivated and helping us to be able to support and serve our residents is much appreciated so thank you for that one question that i do have is uh two things uh one is we're
2:00:42finalizing we got a note an update from the city manager on friday uh with regard to the branding uh study and the completion of that here coming pending uh i know part of that is design uh part of it is just our messaging and image. Will that be incorporated in how we present our image even on the website? Has that been factored and considered? Has there been some dialogue around that? Yeah, when we had started this project, the intent actually was that the branding study would be done before we got into the design of it, and Ron probably remembers that. But when we realized the branding
2:01:22study wasn't going to be done, we had to move forward with the design using sort of our current branding, our current colors and all that. But the beauty of a content management system is the data and the presentation of it are separate. So we could go through and if the branding study comes out to where we're going to be changing colors or logos or whatever, we could easily make those changes without having to redo all the data and it'll just present it differently. So with this tool we're going to be much better equipped to incorporate any of that new branding study into the website.
2:01:59That's great. That's good to know. I've been a part of the branding process to my colleagues. And I think when it comes to colors and others, I think there's intentionality in the part of the designers so that there will be some consistency and hopefully it'll make it ease, it'll create some ease so that we can update and refresh some of the artistic content, the website to be able to be consistent with the overall messaging. That's what will make the brand implementation successful with that consistency. And the other is just a comment.
2:02:33I do appreciate the opportunity, as you mentioned, several areas to be able to highlight the current events, the positive activities that are taking place in the city. More so, in my mind, over crime data and information and such, it's important to have accurate information in that regard. However, using our, this is a mode and medium of communication, immediate access to not only our residents, but the broader public, it appears that there's going to be more opportunity for us to highlight all of the great and positive things that are taking place in the city and provide, again, current and up-to-date information.
2:03:09So I appreciate that feature as well. Thank you.
2:03:49Thank you. Thank you very much. Now if I may, let me call Raul Nolasco, Gisela Hernandez, followed by Peter Katz, Dale Halsweg. Please, Raul.
2:03:53It's great to be here. I'm here to discuss a topic. The topic is protecting the library from cyber attack. The U.S. president talked about a rapidly changing economy. So if the economy is changing quickly, then people from this city need to be able to keep up. otherwise the economy is just getting way faster and we can't keep up because there's a cyber attack keep Santa Ana great and protect the library from cyber attack obviously at the highest level and on a global scale everybody unleashes American energy there's Ivy League elite Harvard Yale so if they're
2:04:06performing at a rigorous pace and their cyber attacks at the library then Santa Ana gets left behind keep Santa Ana great and protect the library against cyber attack also the military has recently expanded now the Marines can can secure the nation against cyber attack so america's secure at the cyber level and san anna must also be secure at the cyber level otherwise we're not keeping up with with the government at the highest level keep san anna great and protect the library against cyber attack the worst case is that billionaires presidents and kings are basically just going to keep amassing
2:04:37more wealth performing at a higher level and san anna kind of gets sluggish and faces a speed bump against cyber attack. Keep San Ana great and protect the library against cyber attack. Thank you very much.
2:05:11Okay, okay, no, empiece, empiece, ya viene. Más cerca del micrófono, por favor. Go ahead.
2:05:47Okay, el motivo de la razón de estar aquí es que yo soy una comerciante de aquí de Santana y estamos experimentando muchos problemas en nuestro lugar de negocio y la razón es que estamos teniendo muchos incidentes con gente... Homeless. Homeless. exacto y nos han agredido han llegado a pegarme a mi han llegado a pegarle a mi esposo por evitar que nos roben siempre están entrando a nuestro negocio agarrar cualquier cosa cuando tenemos los clientes
2:05:53y como un negocio de comida nos afecta porque no se ve bien que estén entrando ese tipo de personas con las manos sucias, no sabemos cómo y pues los demás clientes que están al lado, pues molesta y nos afecta. Estamos perdiendo clientes. Ahora hacemos el reporte con la policía, se los llevan, no pasa nada. Hemos tenido casos en corte, pero no nos dan una solución, nos han dañado la puerta y no hemos recibido de regreso ese dinero de la reparación de nuestro negocio. Entonces, ahora la otra cosa es que estamos experimentando, es que tenemos mucha droga en el lugar.
2:06:34We have a liquor at the side, so they sell liquor and let them take it there. During the time they want, they have 10, 15 people to take it. Apparently, their appearance is like if they were a kitchen there, because they don't tell us anything. So, we have a liquor, we have a shopping center, we have a police, we have nothing. and we are affected as negotiators of the city, and we don't find what to do. So my reason to come here is here. We have a solution. We have to support them.
2:07:16So, another thing is that I have evidence of all the incidents we've had, of the agresions we've had, and in response, when we're in the police, when we report people selling drugs, they put clavos in the shoes,
2:07:54Okay, Deputy Chief Kaminsky, if you could come, maybe get a translator, but I think you can help her a lot, and go ahead and tell us what she said. Mire, el senor que está allá para el oficial, él le va a ayudar, va a y hable con él. Gracias por venir. La estamos escuchando.
2:08:14Okay, también quisiera...
2:08:31Ya se acabó el tiempo, pero gracias.
2:08:33Gracias. see that and they don't know what to think and they're turned away by their presence we file police reports and nothing happens they've damaged our doors we haven't received any reimbursement for that damage there's also a drug issue next to us there's a liquor store and there's people buy
2:09:03alcohol there and there's 10 to 15 people lying around there just loitering and then this affects our business as well we've complained to liquor store owner they don't do anything we complain to the management they don't do anything the police doesn't do anything and nothing happens it just looks like there's an open bar over there now we don't know what to do so please help us with that I have proof of the attacks that we've suffered and as a response a retaliation when we report them they put nails in our tires and they keep attacking us thank you Peter followed by Dale followed by Maria
2:09:27Kevin Tran. Please go ahead, Peter.
2:10:03Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. First, I want to just thank Juan and Michelle for recognizing all the veterans. It's greatly appreciated. We fought for this country and made it what it is today, and so that's why we're here tonight. In this city, we have shared values and a common purpose, but what I want to speak about is I'm really concerned about the sales tax increase that's being placed on the back. in November to raise a sales tax from 775 to 925 it's really going to hurt this city because the six cities that surround Santa Ana will remain at 775
2:10:08with the exception of Garden Grove if there were 1% increase passes mr. mayor you were correct 1% would have been easier to sell than one and a half percent and it concerns me if this measure fails on the ballot do we have a backup plan in the city where do we go from here in the come November if this measure fails and Michelle you're right in talking about development and not planning for it you have a 600 unit complex under construction at the corner of 17th and Harbor yet the nearest grocery store is in Garden Grove all that sales tax revenue will go to Garden Grove so these are some of the things
2:10:46that you know are going to hit everybody in the pocketbook whether you're a small business owner a property owner a daredevil on a skateboard a homeless person you know so we need to start thinking about how are we gonna deal with our residents we have employees in this city making two thousand dollars a day yet forty percent of our residents make less than two thousand dollars a month how long can you put it on the back of these taxpayers without them moving out of the city we're constantly struggling to bring in revenue here but there is no new direction there's no voice and value here and we're just
2:11:28kicking the can down the road so what happens comes November even if you do get this measure passed how are you gonna spend it wisely are we gonna be in the same boat a couple years from now like we were when we sold off the fire department when we gave up the ice contract we don't have anything to replace this stuff coming in and that's my concern here because I have talked to people have lived here for many years and they're looking at moving out of the state not out of the city out of the state so we need to come up with a vision all this stuff that we put up on the screen it's nice but if we can't
2:12:08sell it I mean other cities are doing it tourism is doubling Anaheim is making
2:12:41Peter, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Dale, followed by Maria Beltran, followed by Mallory Barnes.
2:12:47Good evening, Mayor and Councilman. Dale Helweg, Dwarf Santa Ana Preservation Alliance. We, too, are in support of responsible development. We've heard that tonight several times, that we need to do it responsibly and do it right and take our time and make sure we do it right. Draft EIR for 2525 came out on August 7th. We have public comments available to be turned in before September 20th. City Planning Department on Monday will present to this Planning Commission
2:12:58the draft environmental impact report in a very high-level presentation. They'll also follow that up with a work study on the 2525 project. We are looking forward to that night. There will be people from the North San Ana Preservation Alliance, people from Washington Square, Floral Park, West Floral Park, all showing up to show support against this project. So I think at this point in time, because the draft environmental impact report is out, that you guys can now ask questions and voice your concerns,
2:13:34if I remember what the city attorney said a few meetings ago. So I'm hoping that you guys do take the time to voice your concerns and speak up about this project. Take a look at the environmental impact report, see what it has to offer. On another note, Mr. Solario got on next door and said that he was going to be researching the issue on RV parking in the city. So we appreciate that. There's been a lot of talk in the North Santa Ana area on that issue, and we look forward to seeing that answer as well. Thank you.
2:14:13Mariam.
2:14:56Mallory Barnes, followed by Susan Sandon.
2:15:00Buenas tardes. Mire, yo vengo del mismo caso de la señora del mismo shopping center. Yo tengo salón de belleza, desgraciadamente a mí ya me agredió una de las que están ahí.
2:15:06Llamé a la policía, hicieron el reporte, pero se la llevaron supuestamente, pero en la mañana llegó primero que yo al salón. No puedo tener la puerta abierta porque están los hombres ahí, las no dejan. El miedo mío es que si ya me agredieron a mí, pueden agredir a un cliente. Hay niños en el salón de belleza y no se puede trabajar así. we wanted to help because the police didn't do anything. At least before the police came and said they were going to leave, and they said they were going to leave, but now they do not do that, because they come and they say they go and they go and they go.
2:15:17The police and the homeless are going to leave, and the police also leave. And that's the problem we have now. We have years with that, I have 32 years in the Chappie Center, we have 15 years with that problem, and every day they are worse and worse. and peor. Now, at least not agredient, now at least agredient to everyone. And we are there at the expense of them, because we can't do anything. So, if the police do not do anything, we can't do anything. Thank you very much.
2:15:48I'm going to talk with Robert Cortez and get the deputy chief of the police. I'm going to talk with a gentleman and let the phone call.
2:16:13Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I'm here, like the other lady said, regarding the problem with the shopping center with the homeless. I've also been beat by them, hit by them. I have a beauty salon there. We file police reports and nothing happens. I have to leave my door closed so they don't come in. They've hit me and the next thing is they're going to hit my clients or hit children. There's children there and that's not good. We call the police and they don't do anything. They used to come and hush them away, but now they just, from their patrol car,
2:16:20from the loudspeaker, they tell them to go and they don't leave. I've been at that business location for 32 years and for the last 15 years that this isn't a problem and we can't do anything so please help us thank you
2:16:55Mallory come on down five by Susan followed by Gary Thomas okay that's good we appreciate that whatever you are for we're for
2:17:08Susan followed by Gary Thomas.
2:17:24Thank you, Mayor Polito and members of the Council. My name is Susan Simaton, and I live at 601 East Buffalo Avenue in Santa Ana. And thank you for giving me the opportunity to talk to you tonight about the proposed apartment structure threatening our neighborhood, the 2525 North Main Street. This structure is going to be detrimental to our Park San Diego neighborhood. High traffic, overcrowding, overuse of the land, and high density. It will destroy our beautiful neighborhood,
2:17:32homes that people have lived in for years and have paid mortgages and taxes, and our neighborhood has a sense of community and fun, and people take pride. My husband, Steve, and I have lived here in that neighborhood for 44 years, and we raised our family there. I'm speaking and representing for the thousands of residents who live in our neighborhood as evidenced by 400-plus people who came to the Sunshine Meeting at the Science Discovery Center. We had members from West Floral Park, Morrison Park, plus, of course, Park San Diego.
2:18:11And we also had 180 residents from Park San Diego come to a planning meeting in June, June 14th, as we get organized at the First Congregational Church of Santa Ana. My expectation of a city council is to protect established neighborhoods, such as ours, throwing in apartment density will destroy it. I'm citing past history at French Park neighborhood with the high-rise apartments that went in the locality of historic homes, Victorian homes. So please stop and think.
2:18:50Money can't be the only reason for a decision. We have to live with your decision, good or bad. Our Park San Diego is already dealing with more cars coming through and parking, and we're dealing with a very challenging homeless situation. And now, having high density thrown into, it's very, very scary. So please stop. Thank you.
2:19:32Thank you, Susan. Gary Thomas?
2:19:56Two minutes?
2:20:09Yes, two minutes. Go.
2:20:10Go.
2:20:12Mr. Mayor and Council, thank you for letting me speak. You know, tonight's real concerning because of the homeless problem that we have in Santa Ana, and we're talking about building homes for the homeless. It just seems that we're going to invite more and more here. And then the deal of high-density housing. the project on 2525 North Main I strongly oppose. There is the Innovate Charter School that they're looking at putting on 17th, I oppose that. And also it's really discussing that first in Lyon Street, we've got a project going and they removed 50% of the street parking.
2:20:14The people that live around that area get up in the morning, go to work. They live in a high-density area, and they are going to be greatly impacted by that unit that's being built there at the old Saddleback Inn. Traffic is atrocious. We've been picketing on Main Street, and I've been driving up and down Main Street, and cars are exiting off the 57 freeway at Orangewood, driving down Main and entering back on the freeway at Main to avoid the jam there. The CHP even does that and semis. People trying to get out of the city to go to work.
2:20:54We need to stop high-density housing throughout the city, not only in my neighborhood but throughout the city. And thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
2:21:35Ms. City Manager, anything to report?
2:21:45Yes, Mr. Mayor.
2:21:49I'd like to just give an update on the Willowick Vision Plan. There are three community vision workshops that will be hosted by the cities of Santa Ana and Garden Grove for residents and stakeholders to provide input on the plan. The very first workshop will be held on August 30th from 6 to 8 p.m. at the Goodwill Industries, a facility located at 410 North Fairview. The information gathered from the three workshops will be used to create the final vision plan for future uses at this site. Also, the San Ana Police Department is embarking on a community input process for
2:21:51their new policing philosophy and they also will be having community meetings. They're looking at five community sessions. The very first will be scheduled for August 30th from 6 to 7.30 at the San Ana Police Department's Athletic and Activity League office located at 2627 West McFadden Avenue. And it'll be the first of five. And then earlier today, we had a ribbon-cutting ceremony for the Santa Ana Work Center facility, and Council Member Slur was there to help with the festivities. It's a partnership with EDD and various other agencies. It's also the very first one that has social services as part of this.
2:22:25They have training rooms and whatnot, and I encourage all of you to visit. but there was a great turnout, over 100 people there today for the ribbon cutting. And that's all I have, Mr. Mayor.
2:23:05Thank you. Councilor Salatina-Hedro, please.
2:23:16Thank you, Mr. Mayor. We had a great ribbon cutting today here. I was not able to attend because I was at work, but I heard that there were very many staffers that were excited. We had some council members there, so I appreciate that. There was also ribbon cutting over at Valley High School, where they opened up their brand new building, 28 new classrooms, state-of-the-art classrooms there, fully wired. Those are just a couple of things to bring up during this time is that there are things happening in our city that are improving the quality of life of our residents, our children, our educational system.
2:23:20I believe that as we start moving towards the election cycle, individuals are going to start to really pinpoint on the negatives in our community. But the fact is we always have to be mindful and give credit to the positive things that are happening and the hard work that many of our staff members and council members on this dais are also doing to improve the lives of the residents. We live here, too. So we want to make sure that the quality of life is a good one for everybody. And with that, I'll close, Mr. Mayor.
2:23:56Thank you very much for that. Mayor Pro Tem.
2:24:30Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I want to start off because I know we had a special meeting on the homeless situation and being really close to this issue. I think I've put my entire effort and priority on this issue for these past several months and trying to figure out where do we move from here. And I want to be honest and I want to commend my colleagues for staying strong and realizing that something has to happen.
2:24:32And, you know, we have this position or these assumptions that we make that, one, we assume that if we do nothing that the other cities are going to do their job. We have this other assumption that if we don't do a shelter, that possibly the problem is going to go away. The reality is things are getting worse. If you have not seen the special dateline as it pertains to City of Angels in Los Angeles, if you have not seen that,
2:25:00You know, my eyes are still hurting from watching that and seeing what those folks are experiencing. But this is close to home, and this is not. And Mr. Katz spoke very articulate about the issues of the working poor that are one paycheck from being homeless. And more importantly, we've talked about the issues of rent control and what now that is causing across the state of California and possibly repealing Costa Hawkins. There are unintended consequences for those things.
2:25:40And those are short term fixes. And let me tell you why. Because you have all these equity firms coming in, buying apartment buildings. And guess what they're going to do? They are going to displace people. and increase the rent. So how is anything that we are trying to do going to help solve the problems? Yes, there are times that we're not comfortable of speaking our truth and wanting to address issues because I understand that most people, we're creatures of habit. We have our own values, our beliefs.
2:26:21We're our own structure, our own system that when we're trying to take something and make change, it's not the change, it's the loss. I get that. But when we're addressing this homeless issue, and particularly what's happening in this downtown, and I said it earlier, we have one fire. And I hope and I pray that that doesn't happen. But we've been very close already. If that happens, we are done. And I asked our city manager, do you know, and I mentioned it earlier, what our assessed value is? Our real estate here is worth $26 billion.
2:27:03One fire. Guess what, ladies and gentlemen? If we don't figure out a way to address this homeless and get these folks off our street and into shelters and into permanent supportive housing,
2:27:44what you value your property guess what those property values are going to go down so we have a responsibility and an obligation to do what we can to protect the assets of this community and so i just ask this community that when you come and tell us that we don't want something in our backyard i get the loss but understand that we have to figure out a way to make this happen because if we don't everyone is going to suffer and Mr. Mayor I know my time is up I just wanted to um wanting to get an update because I know this is gone before public safety is the
2:27:58cyber cafes and the gaming what's occurring wanting to ask our city attorney if staff has come to them as it pertains or our public safety committee as reviewing the current ordinance that we have on the books and if we're going to have any options to move forward with either banning or providing more restrictions on this. I am hearing that, you know, whether it's coffee shops, whether it's at subways, this is a massive issue. There's prostitution. There's gaming. This is another big issue. And more importantly, we cannot just have our code enforcement addressing this.
2:28:34These are serious issues, public safety issues, and wanting to get an update on how our police department is going to partner up with the code enforcement department to help address this. And so those are my comments, Mr.
2:29:09Can we please just prepare a memo and get it to the Mayor Pro Tem and the council? Councillor Solorio, please.
2:29:21Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor. A few quick things. First, kudos to everybody on opening the new work center across the street at 801 West Civic Center. It's excellent. I know we have a five-year lease there and maybe if there's still an empty floor at City Hall five years from now, we may consider bringing it into the City Hall so we can get full use here rather than renting space elsewhere. Regarding Wellawick, thank you for the update. I am still saddened that this process that we're on is pretty slow and we have the streetcar coming
2:29:29and the need for a lot of improvements and other things in that area. I would ask that the staff that's working on this, that we continue to figure out how we can really do some of the outreach with some master development and other financial assessments so we can move that along quicker. If not, we're going to have a streetcar going from end to end and nobody getting on or getting off, and that's going to be very unfortunate, and that's a very big parcel that we can do something with. On the issue of cyber cafes, there have been a number of complaints on a few specific sites, particularly on 17th Street.
2:30:11And I think code enforcement, PD, and general staff have been looking at that. And I know at least through the notable communications, I think the staff did send a mini update to the council. Not a thorough one, but a mini update on the kind of assessments that we're going to do citywide to make sure we properly restrict them. I think to our knowledge, the one on 17th Street, we haven't seen a lot of outright illegal or really bad activities, but we definitely need to keep monitoring them and enforcing them all equally.
2:30:49We have been getting questions about RV policies, and on my social media I'll be giving updates on my findings on that. Finally, this week was a welcome back week at Santa Ana Unified, So I congratulate all the students and the teachers and the classified that hopefully survived their first week and are doing well. And I also want to thank Council Member Tinihero for his service to our children at Santa Unified. And so thank you with that.
2:31:19Thank you. Council Villegas, please. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I will first start off with a report from the Youth Education and Community Service Committee we had. It took place on July 23rd this year. We spoke about the extended pool hours. We got that going throughout the city pools. Also, we got an update on the citywide volunteer program through human resources for our youth. I also asked for a report on the maintenance on all those dead trees over at Centennial Park. Things like 90 plus dead trees we need to address. And an update on the park rangers.
2:31:51I also would like to thank Chief Valentin and the City Manager and Assistant to the City Manager Jorge Garcia today for joining me with a tour over at the Orange County Family Justice Center. You all know that I'm trying to bring one of those centers here. I will accomplish that mission. We will bring it here so we can bring services to all the domestic violence victims. We will address elder abuse cases, all the sexual assault cases, and child abuse cases that are here. I hate to say this, but it's very much needed here in this city.
2:32:31Anaheim cannot handle it. They only address the cases that take place over there. And one more thing, a few weeks ago we had that incident where the plane crashed. I want to thank Orange County Fire Authority and the Senate Police Department and the Orange County Sheriff's Department, who sent a whole bunch of deputies out to help us with the scene. I went out there to the site of the plane crash, and it was very unfortunate. What happened was terrible. My condolences to the families of the people that lost their lives that day. But it was good to see the cooperation among the agencies working.
2:33:12and I wrote a letter to the sheriff to thank her for sending all those deputies to come out because the scene was very large and we did not have the personnel here at the PD to contain, so they sent people from John Wayne Airport and from North Operations, and I thanked them. And that's what I have, Mr. Mayor. Thank you.
2:33:48Thank you. Councilman Benavides.
2:34:09And thank you, Councilman, for attending. I know you were there.
2:34:11Thank you, Mayor.
2:34:18Just to piggyback off that, it's good to know when we need it, we can count on police services from other agencies, and the sheriff in particular, to support our work here. A couple of comments. I want to thank staff for one of the items that we talked about or that we took action on today was working on the ENA for 3rd and Broadway.
2:34:22Yesterday, the Economic Development and Budget Committee, the council met, and one of the items that we discussed there was the RFP for the YMCA building. A couple of large projects there that we have been working on, I think when we went back and looked at, it's been at six-plus years. we were looking at putting out an RFP on a couple of these properties that the city's been holding on to for for several decades so just want to thank city manager and the staff for for moving some of these forward Willowick is another one that we've been discussing for for at least a decade and
2:34:50so see that moving forward the Metro East mixed-use overlay zone hopefully will be able to get that addressed again in a couple weeks. And the idea is that there is a lot of opportunity here in the city for economic development. For development to bring investment into the city needs to be one of the top priorities and appreciate the fact that the city is moving in that direction and making that a priority. Along with that, I want to encourage us to also continue to be mindful of the economic development and there's also the development of our people, our young people, some of the basics.
2:35:28I know we're going through a process of search for a parks director, but the ideas of recreation programs for our youth, there have been some immediate actions that have taken place to be able to activate our pools, as was referenced, and I definitely appreciate that. It doesn't go, even though it's a small, seemingly a small action, but the message that it sends that we are investing in and prioritizing our families, our youth, and making sure that they have access and full use of the facilities that the city has is an important message. And investing in our young people and looking at all the other opportunities.
2:36:09We've been discussing other improvements around parks, skate parks, the Youth Commission activating and supporting or continue to activate and support the Youth Commission, and our youth leaders there is a positive thing. So I just want to just send the message that we see that and we appreciate that. A lot of positive things going on in the city. I want to highlight Santana Zoo and the Zoo Fari annual event taking place this Saturday at the zoo. It's always a great event. I'm looking forward to being there with my kids this weekend. I just want to encourage the community to come out and celebrate and be a part of that,
2:36:50support our city and to shop in the city, support economic development, local jobs, and every chance we get, spend your tax dollars here in the city of Santa Ana. It goes a long way. And just with that, I also have a...
2:37:28Yeah, let me make a comment, then I'll turn the meeting back over to you at the end for the memory of Manny Moreno. And in the comment, this more to the city manager and our deputy chief, I want to see if we can come up with an interim way of working because I believe we're about to come up with a settlement and for our city attorney as well with the court as it relates to Judge Carter and the plaintiffs and the lawsuits and so the minute we put together a plan I know we're not going to be able to implement it right away even if you're trying to get a
2:37:43building you're trying to be in college you're trying to do stuff well what I'm driving as is that the judge has said that once you know we have a plan and we're exempt from the lawsuit that we can begin to enforce the law and what i'm talking about is that some of these homeless are flat-out criminals i mean you know some might be down their luck and they're trying to find a job but others are just you know mean mean people that are you know you know terrorizing our community
2:38:19They're coming into our homes, they're coming into our businesses, they're stealing things, and they know we can't do anything because we've got this lawsuit over our head. Just for the general public, in case you don't know, some time back we arrested seven homeless individuals, and they got together in a group. They came back, they had lawyers, well-meaning, but pro bono lawyers, and they sued us. And I forgot the exact amount, but I think it was close to $700,000 that the city had to pay out for arresting seven individuals because we violated their rights. I mean, it's absurd.
2:38:50But the reason I'm voicing this is it's very frustrating for all of us up here to be in this position and this situation where we really can't help ourselves. So what I'm suggesting is that maybe through the city attorney, the minute we have a settlement, we can have some type of an interim agreement with the court so we can start enforcing our laws again. And while we're doing the shelters, while we're doing everything else, some of these folks belong in jail. Some, the minute we start to harass them and get tougher with them, are going to move out of town and go harass another town.
2:39:30and that would not be a terrible thing.
2:40:11So let's try to figure out what we can do, Madam City Attorney. I know this is funny, but it's also very serious. So let's try to figure out what we can do. All right?
2:40:16By the way, Mr. Mayor, I believe during that lawsuit, after they received the money, great majority of the of that group that sued us ended up drinking themselves to death and or OD in motel rooms and that's where the money went. Now and it's
2:40:31and it said it's taxpayer money because we try to do something good we get in trouble. One comment and then I'm gonna have council member close. Yes sorry but
2:40:47I do think it's an important clarification. I don't know that the city is banned from enforcing any of our anti-camping ordinances. We have been I think we're just very careful about how and what and how much and notice. But going forward, if we don't address our issue, definitely I could see that they would not allow us to enforce. We also need more resources, but maybe if our city attorney could clarify what the situation is.
2:40:55I would just like to clarify for the record that we have been continuing to enforce our regulations because we aren't enjoying. What the real trick there, what's really been the biggest challenge is the law says that before we can take someone into custody, we have to give them the option of going to a shelter or having a bed. And that's been the trick. It's building those shelter spaces so that our police officers, which they're doing a great job of, they call all the available places to see if there's a bed. And if an individual does not take that bed and refuses to, then we are.
2:41:25But we are citing, I can't tell you the number now, but at the last count I had like 86 of them that we are continuing to cite where we can.
2:41:57See, we can do 86 at 8. Yes, just for mass enforcement, we do need a broader plan and more resources. Thank you.
2:42:04Because, you know, there's unfortunately hundreds of homeless throughout the city, you know, laying seeds to the city. So with that, I'm going to go ahead and adjourn. But first, Councilman Benavides, if you want to make your comments, please.
2:42:11Yes, Mayor. Thank you. So we're adjourning tonight's meeting in memory of Manuel Manny Moreno. Manny was a longtime resident of the city of Santa Ana, and he was a member of New Song Church, formerly First Baptist Church here on 17th Street. Manny was born in Mexico on June 14, 1948, and passed away on August 12, 2018. I want to read a couple of thoughts, words that his daughter, who's Maggie Moreno, some of us might know her. She's formerly a staffer when he was on the Senate, Senator Lucorrea,
2:42:26and has done other work in serving our community through Cal Optima and other ways. she credits her father and his influence in her life with making that value of giving back and serving the community. A couple words here shared. God called Manny home after a short battle with cancer on August 12, 2018. For the past 35 years, he'd been working at New Song Church, formerly First Baptist Church of Santa Ana. He faithfully fixed every nook and cranny of this beautiful church. he called his first home. His presence was more than life itself, spreading
2:43:07kindness, love, and wisdom to all who met him in the community and afar. And Mr. Moreno was a longtime resident of the Willard neighborhood as well. And he's a gentleman who passed at the young age of 70. I remember seeing him at church a couple weeks before, and it was a very fast an aggressive illness that took him rather quickly. And I think about the fact that the city of Santa Ana, we're 50% of our residents. We're born in another country.
2:43:48We're very 80% Latino city. Manny was one of our greatest imports from Mexico, if you will, a man with a heart of gold and much wisdom, always very humble and behind the scenes, somebody who served both there at church, served in the community, but always never needing to receive any accolades. Also, later on, I realized just recently, he was also a painter, an artist, and had a lot of other ways that he would share his talents with our community.
2:44:27And again, somebody that was a treasure for our church community, our community here in Santa Ana. I just want to ask our city clerk if we would send our condolences on behalf of the city to the Moreno family and adjourn in honor of this great man and friend, Manny Moreno. With that, again, meeting is adjourned. Thank you.
2:45:07Thank you.
2:45:38Thank you.
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