Read the March 3 meeting.

Madam Clerk, we're going to call the meeting in order. I see we have two public speakers for a closed session. Is that correct? That's correct. Okay. Is there any other cards? I have two here. Is there any other cards available? No? We do not have any other cards. Okay. Thank you very much. We're going to call the first speaker, Mr. Tim Johnson. Good evening. Happy voting day to everyone, I'm sure.

everyone's already voted but you should have a handout before you this is on with regards to homeless homeless lawsuits the first first page is part of the settlement before judge carter where the county indicates that they're not to transport folks across spa lines which is reminder we're in the central spa i have it highlighted there for you the second page is an uh an rpa that I received from OCSD literally an hour ago that I went through and highlighted in red areas that I expunged all the areas that were in Santa Ana. But these are folks that were picked up. And for example, at Mission Viejo,

the OCSD transported to Santa Ana in the first place from Orange to the Courtyard, from HB, which is inside the SPA. But as I've spoken before, I believe that this is not just a SPA issue, but also a Santa Ana issue. that other cities need to be stepping up. Lake Forest to the armory, it says in Anaheim, but I think we can all agree that there's no armory in Anaheim, so it's either in Fullerton or here in Santa Ana. Regardless, they've crossed lines. Mission Viejo, it's nice to see in that one that they actually suggested a taxi. And a couple of these others they expunged

because they were prior to the July 2019 settlement. date they were offering ubers which I thought was nice so you this information that hopefully you find when we want proof of what's happening this is part of that proof and again I literally got it just an hour to go that's why I'm a little out of breath from hustling here after doing some quick computer work for you next page is a current pocket guide that's available on the county's website you'll notice that in the north SPA that it has to Santa Ana shelters these are pocket guides that are given out to and are available on almost every city's website

indicating that our Santa Ana shelters, they're handing out to their north SPA. You'll notice the next page is our central one, and it does not indicate any of the homeless shelters in the north or the one in the south. The south pocket guide, you'll notice, has, again, the Santa Ana shelters on there, Hospitality House and Court Eard. And again, these are government documents that are being handed out to folks that are supposedly wanting help and so when we are asked to give proof to the courts or to others about information about the county transporting across county lines

I think this is pretty helpful the last page is just a sampling of some of the city websites that have these particular pocket guides on their what on their website so you can find even as of today so hopefully you find this information helpful and you your own council is getting more for you thanks a lot thank

you sir next speaker mr. Dale Helvick

welcome good evening mayor pro tem and council members and staff I just wanted to update the council on the possible spreading of inaccurate information and reports of intimidation that our volunteers as well as paid referendum signature gatherers said they experienced during the referendum process. I've been provided a picture of a man at Target who is reported to be telling volunteers as well as paid signature gatherers in a manner they told me they found intimidating that it was illegal to gather signatures on the day of Monday, February 24th.

I also personally observed the same gentleman who was in the picture inquiring about the number of referendum signatures being sent over to the Register of Voters when I was at City Hall on Tuesday, February 25th. I've never met the man seen in the picture or at City Hall, but was told his name was Ernie Condi. If that is correct, he may be a retired Santa Ana police officer, presently employed by the Police Officers Association. If so, I find the potential connection between the POA and this developer curious.

If this is Mr. Condi, and he is an employee of the POA, I ask the Council members to inquire into why someone from the POA might be interested in spreading apparent inaccurate information regarding the deadline for gathering of reference and signatures by the POA's citizen constituents on a vineyard development proposal at 2525 Main Street. Of course, if this is not true, please let me know at once. Let me be clear on one other point as well. In all, 18,995 signatures from Santa Ana residents from all across the city were obtained.

While this effort may have started in Park Santiago, it has grown to include support from many Santa Ana neighborhoods, Artesia Pillar, Bristol Memory Coalition, Bristol Warner, Edna Park, Casa de Santiago, Fisher Park, Floral Park, French Park, Henninger Park, Mayberry Park, Meredith Parkway, Mid-City, Morrison Park, Riverview, Sandpoint, South Coast Metro, Thornton Park, Washington Square, Wilshire Square, and Windsor Village North, to name a few. Well over 13,000 signatures were gathered by residents of Santa Ana. Yes, we did hire a company to assist us in the final week.

However, contrary to more inaccurate information that I understood as being spread, It was paid for by the residents of Santa Ana and their volunteer supporters, not the POA or any other politically elected individual. This service was paid by the City of Santa Ana resident donations, such as a 93-year-old resident who drove to my house to ensure I got his $25 contribution. These people care about the City of Santa Ana. We did what was expected of us as described in an email from the City. quote, the deadline of filing the referendum petition is Monday, February 24th, before 5 p.m. Connect the dots, people.

Thank you, Mr. Helvig. Any other speakers, Madam Clerk?

No.

If not, we're going to go ahead and move in our closed session.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We'll be right back.

That's like that. Okay, ready? Begin. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. If you don't remain standing, I believe we have a law guard at our police chastle and given us our vocation.

Lord God, as we begin this night, we ask that your presence would give us guidance. We ask that wisdom would be displayed. We're thankful for our city council members, our mayor, and all that serve our community, Lord God. We're thankful for the first responders. We always ask for blessing and protection upon them, Lord God, and favor for this city. And Lord, even though we're on the west coast, we're mindful this night of Nashville, the difficulties they've been through. And we intercede on their behalf that you would bring peace and comfort to a city that suffered a lot last night through the storms.

And Lord, we're thankful again for the people to be honored this night, those that have served our community. Bless them, Lord God. And again, we thank you in the name of the Lord. Amen. You may be seated.

Let me call my counselor Iglesias to do the first presentation to the NAACP, please, if you could step forward.

Thank you.

Good evening, everyone. Did you guys go out and vote? Yes? Okay. So I have the honor of recognizing outstanding individuals in our community. And also, you know, nationally, the month of February is always Black History Month. And I want to thank you all for everything that you do for our community. And I want to apologize for not bringing you in February, but we brought you the first meeting here in March.

To acknowledge everything that you do for our community and what you continue to do to fight for civil rights here for our residents. So with me I have Dr. Fred Cahoon. He's the President of Orange County NAACP.

If you could raise your hand.

We have Mr. I call him Brother Wellington Bennett. He's the Vice President. Here he comes. Gloria Miller, Treasurer. Janice Cajun, member, and Joyce Mays, who's the Assistant Secretary. The Orange County NAACP branch, number 1052, serves Santa Ana and works to ensure the political, educational, social, and economic equality of rights of all people. Most importantly, they seek to eliminate race-based discrimination.

The NAACP of Orange County reaches out to community colleagues, attends court hearings, hosts residence forums, assists with voter registration, and provides legal classes once a month. I believe the meetings are at the Second Baptist Church. Yes, it's on 17th Westminster, right? Okay. In celebration of Juneteenth, the NAACP hosts an annual event. which brings together a diverse group of people to enjoy food, entertainment, games, singing, dancing, and all-around great time.

So the presence of the NAACP in our community is essential to promoting equality and celebrating our diversity. So I just want to thank all of you guys for supporting Santa Ana, and we are grateful to have you here, and grateful also for your efforts, what you do for our community. So at this time, I would like to give this to Dr. Cahoon, representing the organization. And if you have any words that you want to share with us, feel free. Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

Thank you very much. No, I feel like I'm coming home to some extent because right out of college, the city of Santa Ana hired me and I worked at the Corbin Center. And I'm not going to tell you how long ago, but I have, I'm going to say this. Excuse my grammar, but it was a few many years ago. So we're here to help the people of Orange County, to provide justice and equal opportunity for them.

And we want to encourage as many of you as possible to come by and see what we are doing. We appreciate you, and we thank you for this award.

Hello, everybody. It's nice to be here today. I don't have much to say. Dr. Fred Calhoun already said everything, but we're just glad that you all invited us here today, and we're going to continue to do as much as we can to make the community better. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

please thank you mr. mayor and that was a great presentation thank you council member I know on the eve of black history month I know that it's a very important recognition to make can I have another group of great folks come join me Leon Raya Pearl Raya co-founders of the Raya Foundation and does that name ring a bell do you guys so Ed Raya was our former personnel director and Pearl used to work here for the city as well welcome back and we also have directors Lisa Silva Josh Jagway Jake Gray Susie Gray and Brandon Smith and they're all board of directors for the Raya Foundation and so we're here to talk

about and I'm going to talk very little because my throat is very sore so I'm I'm going to leave the floor to somebody to go ahead and speak a little bit more on this. But we're going to talk about the inaugural Santa Prep Basketball Showcase. So many of you know that academics and sports are the great equalizers, right? So we have a lot of great scholar athletes in the city. What's unfortunate is that we don't have the venues nor the forums to show them off. And we live in an area in Orange County that shares space with what's called the Trinity League.

The Trinity League is probably one of the most competitive leagues in the country. It produces athletes that are very high level going to our own modern day, going to Orange Lutheran, St. Bishop's Newmont, and so just crazy, crazy athletic wealth that we have here. And we don't show off our talent. And our folks here in town, our parents and our students, deserve that same spotlight. And I'm looking at Brandon because he's a former Godina's high graduate and went to UCI, was recruited on full scholarship from them for his basketball talent. So let's give Brandon a big round of applause for that.

And I know his uncle Tim Smith as well, and he's a graduate from, I think he went to Valley, and then went on to Santa Ana College and was recruited by Oregon State as a starting cornerback. So great talent here in the city. the problem is is we don't have enough of these tournaments to show our talent off to the rest of the county and the rest of the state so what these good folks have done is they have started the Santa Ana Prep basketball showcase that is going to be an event that works towards accomplishing that the Raya Foundation was actually formed 12 years ago right here in Santa Ana and it

offers an array of youth sports and programs and scholarships to team alumni The event, though, that is going to be taking place this Saturday, March 14th, will feature, and this is a great part, not just boys basketball players, but girl basketball players as well. That's really important because we know that after the passing of Kobe Bryant and everything and all the attention that that received, I think what that made us reflect on was his daughter had such potential to make women's basketball on par with men's basketball.

So just celebrating not only the talent that we have with the boys basketball teams in the city, we'll be able to celebrate the girls as well. But the event's going to feature top girls and boys basketball players from six Santa Ana high schools, including Century, Godinez, Santa Ana, Saddleback, Seager, Sherman Valley. The RIA Foundation has worked hard for our youth, and this event is further proof of its efforts. I would like to present this certificate of recognition from the City of Santa Ana and a very very grateful group of residents for recognition of your

outstanding contributions and I'm gonna call Leon Raya to say a few words here on on their behalf thank you so much all of you for bringing this bringing this tournament to the city it's very important we know that it's going to be a success and even though this is the inaugural we know that there's going to be several to follow because I know we're all going to be there to cheer these folks on Leon come on up come on up and say a few words

Thank You Councilman Saramanteo members of the City Council mr. mayor the Rye Foundation as was councilman Saramanteo mentioned has been around 12 years started with a group of ten boys who want to play basketball thought they were really good and want to play travel ball went to their first tournament and lost sixty four to eight but over the course of those ten eleven twelve years that we've been doing this we've mentored and been able to work with you know hundreds of kids we not only do our travel ball we do a rec league for boys or rec league for girls we do a basketball league for kids who either aren't eligible or don't

quite make them regular high school team so that age group between 15 and 18 has some place to play and something positive to do on April 19th we're having our center youth games track and field meet we'll have a few hundred kids out there track and field is near and dear to our hearts and allows kids who maybe aren't interested in a team sport to be an individual sport and those be a lot other activities coming down the road for the raw foundation one thing I want to mention before I talk a little bit more about the prep showcase is I'm particularly proud with us tonight also to have Abraham Hernandez is one of our

directors but the gentleman you see here these four young men they were part of that original program. And they've been with us ever since. And now they're giving back. These are the gentlemen who now are the head coaches in our program. They do our clinics. They do our teams. They help referee. And more importantly, this past summer, they put together a curriculum for leadership development for the kids in our program based on their experience of growing up in Santa Ana, going off to college in different venues to help the children in our program understand the things you don't quite learn in other leadership programs about

what you're gonna face when you go away from home and go to college so based on their input they put together the curriculum they did a wonderful job I'd like to have special round of applause for that for giving back now as volunteers to their community

so as Cal Simonson mentioned March 14th at Santa Ana Valley High School we're having the inaugural Santa Ana Prep Showcase and this has been a dream of our foundation for 10 years to give the boys and girls who attend to six Santa Ana schools an opportunity to show off their basketball skills and it just all happens that basketball is kind of our expertise and this is why we're doing it but it's going to be a very exciting event we had a photo shoot last night for the program and I will tell you that these boys and girls are incredibly excited they're so excited to be part of this event and very thankful so we're still looking for

sponsors and donors you can get us at riot foundation org or at 714-542-7473 the events coming together really nice we're gonna have a three-point shooting contest maybe we should have one for the City Council because I know you guys have played you guys have played basketball before so maybe we'll have a couple of dignitaries out there but what that councilman Saramanteau for his support to send in to Elks we have other community partners but please come out March 14th, tickets are available online at Eventbrite. We want to make this a very, very special event for these young men and ladies

that work really hard all season and deserve some celebration and some recognition. So thank you very much.

So remember that day, Saturday, March 14th, and I want to give a special shout-out to our city manager and our staff because I know we're going to, is it Jerome?

so we're gonna be lending the the folk with that Salgado Center so Salgado Center is the gym that we're gonna be letting them to use to practice and to get ready and it's gonna be a great great time so Leon let me give this to you before you leave share this with all the talent all the future talent that you're gonna be showing off over there and let's give them a big round of applause once again.

Thank you very much for that.

Now I want to call on Councilman Jose Solorio, and he's going to be presenting to the Meals on Wheels. So here with Meals on Wheels, come on down.

So many great organizations and leaders. It's hard to follow these acts, but we can follow it today. We have some great leaders of a great organization. We have with us today Holly Hagler, President and CEO of Meals on Wheels OC, as well as Gio Corso, Vice President of the Home and Care Services Unit. You probably all have heard about Meals on Wheels over time, and their main purpose is to nourish the dignity of older adults and their families here in our community. through wellness and through meals. For 50 years, the organization has been serving approximately 1 million meals annually.

Isn't that amazing? Let's give them a round of applause for that.

1 million meals annually. Amazing. They've accomplished this through senior center lunch programs, at-home deliveries that they deliver on a daily basis, the adult day health care center care transitions and coordination services and other evidence-based programs you know a little bit unique as the adult day health care centers which is one of the programs service by Meals on Wheels and it's located here in Santa Ana it is medically supervised it's a daily care center that provides breakfast lunch and snacks medication management which is very important for all of us, I guess, including seniors, and supervision, socialization,

physical and occupational therapy, and transportation to and from the facility. And so that's a great service as well. The city today recognizes Meals on Wheels of Orange County for their attention to and care of one of the most rapidly and important and dear populations to our heart, you know, the elderly in our community. on behalf of Grateful City. We thank them, and before we give them a certificate, let's give them another round of applause.

Thank you, Council Member Solario, Mayor, and Mr. Mayor, and members of the council. First of all, I wanted to let you know, you don't know this, but I'm a resident of Santa Ana, and I actually am in your ward. So that had nothing to do with tonight, but because councilmember Solario and the whole City Council really has been very supportive of the programs that we do for older adults in Santa Ana we have partnered for decades we provide the hot lunch program at the downtown senior center and at Southwest community center which is temporarily closed for for

remodeling but it will be opening soon and then we provide meals on wheels delivered to homebound older adults and those programs are are open to older adults age 60 and over so if you know somebody that needs meals or needs to get out of their house and go to the senior center and interact with people send them to meals on wheels OC org the older adult population is the only demographic in Orange County that is growing every other demographic is actually declining so we need to be there for to support older adults Santa

Ana has been a great partner to us and has been for years and Gio will just give you a quick second on our adult day health care center right here in Santa Ana thank you on behalf of our don't a health care program our seniors who attend Monday through Friday through our through over 30 years of our services and adult health care centers we want to thank you for this recognition council and board but overall as how he stated is our senior population is the most needy frail population so it requires a lot of your support and we couldn't have

done this without the volunteers that we have in our groups so if anybody's interested in volunteering in any of our programs please go to meals and wheels

OC that o-r-g thank you I think it's often easy to kind of neglect how hard it can be for for some you know seniors and just having nutritious meals can be an issue whether transportation related health related income wise whatever it might be so that's important and then socialization you know a lot of folks age in place and unfortunately often age alone and so programs like Meals on Wheels are outstanding so on behalf of on behalf of our mayor and City Council I presented this to you and congratulations thank you

thank you for those presentations and with that i'm going to take one item out of order and then we'll continue with the consent calendar and the one item is going to be item 60 beers and boy and i believe the request is for a two-week continuance but i know councilman sarmiento wanted to be here for that

well why don't we take it if we need more input i know his request was that when staff does come back that the where contract fee co-terminus with waste disposal for the one-year extension. He asked me, he told me that was his request. So I'll go ahead and call on Mayor Pro Tem.

Yeah, I'll make a motion to extend two weeks.

Okay, any opposition? Do we want to press the green button? Just a quick comment. Councilor Salodio?

Just a quick comment that I do appreciate that because it's a very important contract. You know, our residents spend, you know, a lot of money towards these services and we've got to do very good due diligence over this RFP. also there's a new part of the recommendation that we hadn't heard of before which is you know prop 218 process as well so I want to give that extra extra attention as well so two weeks would be fantastic thank you those

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in favor press green yes council member Peña Loza and just as Madam City Manager for the prop 218 a hearing I want to make sure that that we're very careful and when we schedule whenever that hearing may come and be because in the past where we've scheduled hearings when we have heavy items on the agenda and you know the hearing doesn't come till about midnight and 1 a.m. and all the speakers that had submitted cards leave so it's important that we're transparent and fair with the hearing and make sure that whenever that day may be because I noticed that there was an April 21st day on the agenda I'm not

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sure why that date was selected. But I would hope that when that hearing does take place, that we're vigilant of what other items on the agenda and make sure it's a light agenda in order for that hearing to take place.

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And Mayor, I do have some reportable action that I have to get on the record for purposes

I know, but let us vote on this. Those in favor, please say aye or press green.

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it's unanimous let's go ahead and report out yeah just real quick I'm on item 1a on the agenda this evening I have to report out that the council by a 5 to 0 vote approved up to a $92,000 settlement Mary Polito and council member Iglesias were absent from that conversation with respect to item number two case to the City Council authorized by a vote of four to zero the filing of an unlawful detainer on a city owned property with council members are me into abstaining and Mayor Polito and Glacius absent. On all other matters, direction was given to staff. That's all I have to report. Thank you.

Any comments from the public on consent counter items, Madam Clerk? Okay, let's hear from Dale Helwig on item 25, Gia's and George.

I see another white beard back there, Dale.

For the bearded sec. No, no, there's another one up here. It's competition. Three white beards today. Okay, go ahead.

Evening, Mayor and Council. Spoke earlier on this issue. I'd like to bring it back to you guys because it deals with the 25G issue. I just wanted to update the Council on the possible spreading of inaccurate information and reports of intimidation that our volunteers as well as paid referendum signature gatherers said they experienced during the referendum process I've been provided a picture of a man a target who has reported to selling telling volunteer as well as paid signature gatherers in a manner they told me they found intimidating that was that it was illegal to gather signatures

on that day Monday February 24th I also personally observed the same gentleman who was in the picture inquiring about the number of referendum signatures being sent over to the register of voters when i was at city hall on tuesday february 25th i've never met the man seen in the picture or at city hall but was told his name was ernie condy if that is correct he may be a retired san anna police officer presently employed by the police officers association if so i find the potential connection between poa and this developer curious if this is mr condy and he is an employee of the POA I asked the council members to inquire into why

someone from the POA might be interested in spreading apparent inaccurate information regarding the deadline for gathering of referendum signatures by the POA citizen consists constituents on a vineyard development proposal at 2525 main of course if this is not the case please let me know at once let me be clear on one other point as well in all 18,995 signatures from Santa Ana residents from all across the city were obtained well if this effort may have started in Park San Diego it has grown to include support from many Santa Ana neighborhoods Artesia Pilar Bristol memory coalition Bristol Warner

Edna Park Casa de Santiago Fisher Park Floral Park French Park Henninger Park Mayberry Park Meredith Parkway mid-city Morrison Park Riverview Sandpoint South Coast Metro Thornton Park Washington Square Wilshire Square in Windsor Village North to name a few well over 13,000 signatures were gathered by residents of Santa Ana yes we did hire a company to assist us during the final week however contrary to more inaccurate contrary to more inaccurate information that I understand is being spread it was paid for by residents of Santa Ana and their volunteer supporters not the POA or any political elected individual this

service was paid for by Santa Ana resident donations such as a 93 year old resident who drove to my house to ensure I got a $25 contribution these people care about the future of Santa Ana we did what was expected of us as described in an email from the city the deadline for filing of the referendum petition is Monday February 24th before 5 p.m. thank you with that I'm going to bring it

back to council any items council members want to pull or abstain on

council member Iglesias go ahead please 20 20 a and 25 a 20 a and 25 a I'd

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entertain a motion on mr yes counselor I'd like to pull 25 seed 25 D and 29 a

they'll be quick probably worries no worries so I'd entertain a motion on the balance second those in favor press green let's go on item 28 I believe that

was councilman regalias yes okay okay this is the the item to approve an appropriation adjustment in the amount of seven hundred and ten thousand dollars to the to support the cost associated with the signature verification and a dick in additional activities relating to the May 19th May 19th 2020 special election so I just wanted to pull it cuz I I'm gonna be a no on this one okay

any other thought or comment I'd entertain a motion so move those in favor press green okay next item 25a I believe we had two council members for

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that item uh yes mr reyder thank you uh mine's uh very brief uh it's basically the item is to let me find my place here it's a red trolley in a pre agreement with dulac enterprise for the trolley service for special events in the city i just wanted to thank staff for the very descriptive and and and detailed uh staff report on the amounts and and the cost associated with this and the numerous different events um i was going to question why we're using census money but you know further in the staff report i realized that it was for census events which is

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i'm all in favor of i would just like to ask that we make sure that the trolley is is branded with our city santa anna as much as we can i know i've seen it in downtown with long beach banners hanging off of it which was a little confusing for me so uh just as long as we keep that in mind when we're using and this trolley for numerous events i'd appreciate it and that was it would you like to make a motion with those requests as part of the motion oh yes i'd like to to make a motion uh adding uh that branding uh request uh to is there a second second okay those in favor

West Green go ahead you have comments go ahead so I know you we spoke about it Christine on who is going to benefit from using this this service I just wanted for you to kind of share like the history of where the trolley came from and then why is it that we're using it and like who's gonna be benefiting I know you mentioned like the downtown merchants that they're excited about this So just so individuals who don't think it's another trolley may be mistaking it for the streetcar. Please.

Certainly, Council Member. I'll ask Stephen Mendoza to give the history on it, but as far as who's going to benefit from it, it will both serve the residents of the city and then it will also serve those that are visiting our city in juror capacities as well.

Thank you very much. The original intent of the trolley, it started out as the Art Walk trolley. It started out on the Saturday nights of Art Walk and was very successful for many years, and we wanted to continue that process. The contract came to an end, but this time we had the opportunity of adding on some census events to it as well. The census events aren't very close to some parking areas, so this will help Daisy achieve some of her goals of attracting people that may not have parking opportunities near our census events.

And then the trolley will be visitors Orange County wide on Mondays that will be assigned to jury duty here in our Civic Center. And this will create a linkage between them and our other area of downtown where the restaurant community is. Monday is the busiest day at jury duty. It's also the first day of most jurors' assignments with the courts. and so we predicted that would be the high day and the day for them to first discover downtown and then find their way to downtown on Tuesday Wednesday or

Thursday thank you so with that any other additional comment now we have a motion by being on those earlier I believe is there a second we said in five Becerra so those in favor press green next item I believe is

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25C. Thank you Mr. Mayor. 25C is to approve an agreement with SoCal Rides for Carnival Services at City Events. Madam City Manager you're right I was shocked at the very little amount that would were estimated to receive from the as after part of that 30 percent because it's such a small amount anywhere from five to ten thousand dollars I believe is what it said I think it we should look at ways where we could give that back to our residents at these events as in i know the oc fair has free days has you know free from 12 to 2 on a certain day uh you know these fairs do get

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pricey and expensive uh and are not you know affordable to a lot of our residents so instead of you know having these 30 savings or or or share of the profits with these carnival rides i think we should maybe look at a way that we could give it back to them at these same events that we're having in the city in forms of tickets or or food or just kind of an incentive to bring people to the fair um not saying the whole thing free but a couple of of the a couple hours maybe uh just an idea that I had I'm not sure where my colleagues of how my colleagues feel on

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that but um do these savings or the the share in profits so they just go back into a general fund pot is it parks and rec it would go back to the parks and

rec department but if you would like staff certainly can look at using a portion of those funds to do whether it's free wristbands for residents on certain dates at certain times we could we could do that for you you would need to amend the well actually you wouldn't need to amend the agreement because the agreement has a revenue coming to us but you would need to to direct us to do that type of a program to encourage

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local residents maybe more more not necessarily a program but more of a study of what options we could possibly have if it's you know if it won't do a ding in the parks and rec budget or if it's something that's uh incredibly needed in in the department uh i'm just looking at a creative way where we could give that money back to to the residents at the same events a possibility maybe just a study or a or a different options that we could play

with we could with if with your passage of this item we certainly can come up with those types of ideas and then just communicate it to you with it via memo okay and if any of you have objections to it you can certainly let me know all

righty councilor Solario yeah thank you mr. mayor I think that's a that's a good idea and I often many of our families have very large families and so you know you you may have five five children and maybe you know some cousin friends or something that you know it could get very expensive and yeah maybe there's like just a discount time for some days or hours and I know this time we're seeing it here as the specific agreement that that we're trying to execute but I know often we'll do RFPs and maybe in the RFPs we can also ask the vendors as part of their proposal to suggest some kind of program because I'm sure there's

ways that are better than others and we may think you know a certain way is the way to do it and they may know what what's better overall and so that might

be an idea for the future too all right so I'll make a motion to approve is there second those in favor play screen next item I think 25 D as in David I also have that again

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approve an agreement with California barricade rentals for traffic control and street closures at these same events I just want to make sure that we want we're you know protecting ourselves after that incident that happened at the Fiestas Patrias this past year when somebody unplugged the barricades and water started rushing. It looked like Jumanji down towards the stage. I was there. Daisy was there. The electrical generators were there. It could have been really bad, but nothing happened. But was that a fault of the contractor? Was that a – is this the same person?

Yeah, I don't remember or recall why they actually emptied that barricade earlier than they should, but we certainly can make sure that doesn't happen again.

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Please, thank you. Just that these contractors and companies that we're using are mindful of what that would do by unplugging the barricades and draining them when there's thousands of people right next to them. So with that said, I'll make a motion to approve.

I'll go ahead and second from Mayor Pro Tem. those there press green next item madam city clerk 55a 29a let's first do an oath at office don't we have somebody we need to swear in yes we do if i let's do that right now okay if i can

Nacielo Echegoyan to come up please. And Corey Nelson if you're here.

Raise your hand. Repeat after me. Aye. Please state your name. Aye. Nacielo Echegoyan. Do solemnly swear. that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States

and the Constitution of the State of California

against all enemies foreign and domestic

that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of the United States to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California

that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I'm about to enter.

Congratulations.

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Congratulations, Ginger. Congratulations.

Okay, on item 55A, I would entertain a motion.

29A. It was pulled by Council Member. 29A. Yes.

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Oh, 29A, okay. This is just for the national fitness campaigns at our parks. Madam City Manager, maybe, if you want, or Parks and Rec. Just wanted to get a timeline on when these would be. This would be completed by summertime this year, and also Memorial Park. I know it was also part of the original approval a year ago. I just wanted to see what that...

Our Director of Parks will answer that question for you.

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Perfect.

Absolutely. Yes, the Delhi and Rosita will be completed by the end of the fiscal year. And then also Salvador and Memorial, we need to identify funding for those projects. And we hope to have those in the next fiscal year.

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So, and just for clarification, so the grants that were, I guess, approved to be receiving, those are just grants to help as part of the cost? Correct. So it wouldn't cover the entire thing, right?

Correct. Okay. The entire cost is around $120,000, and this is a $30,000 grant per site.

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Ah, got it. Okay, so we would still need to come up with the funds for those additional sites?

Right.

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Okay. Thank you. Okay. thank you would you like to move yeah i'll make a motion to approve those in favor press green

next time i think is 55 a

i would entertain a motion on this item i'll make a motion to approve second will come go ahead

comment so i just wanted to get a little bit of an update on this because i know i believe it was on in september that we approved the dda so i know there was a lot of representations made so i'm wondering if we somehow prevented the applicant at that time which was caribou and i see mike out there thanks for coming mike um i know there was going to be some lights and some windows that were going to be boarded up things were going to get cleaned up what's been done between then and now

You're absolutely correct, Council Members. Should we have executed the agreement it would have started a timeline for Caribou Industry to do some instant improvements to the outside of the YMCA building? Unfortunately, we didn't have that in place, and the Surplus Land Act went into effect January 1. And I'll ask Executive Director Stephen Mendoza to talk a little bit about why we have to follow the Surplus Land Act, the new one that went into effect January 1.

No, I know we definitely have to follow the SLA, but I guess what was done before or during the time during September to January 1 when we knew that we had to be compliant with SLA you know in

accordance with the new law an agreement would have had to been in place either an ENA or a DDA would have to been placed by September 30th of 2019 you saw with the Willowick project you had that project subject to the same thing right And you saw the lawsuits start. You saw the people come out against those projects as well. So we were very cautious about...

So I guess maybe I'm not making myself clear. I get that we have to comply with the SLA and put it out there. There's no doubt that we have to comply with California law. But between the time that we knew we had to comply in January and September 3rd, when we approved the DDA, I know that there were representations that improvements were going to be made. or at least to make sure we abate some of the problems I think that Mr. Harrah had raised to us, which they were homeless encampments, you know, windows were broken, things were done. Was any of that done during at least those three months?

No, sir. We hadn't come to terms for an ENA by that time.

Got it.

The obligation for him to do those would have started when his agreement started, and it hasn't started. So his timeline to complete those hasn't even started yet.

Okay, so that was set aside until now we have to comply with the SLA. And so once we're done with that, if in fact it comes back, I guess we get those representations that will be fulfilled.

Absolutely.

Okay, great. Thank you.

Would you like to move it?

We've already got a motion in a second.

Those in favor, please. I have a question. Oh, go ahead.

So for this item, it doesn't change our, just for my understanding, it doesn't change what we've already agreed to back in September with Mr. Harrah.

We are obligated to follow a number of steps under the current SLA, the Surplus Land Act, which means this is one of the first steps. You're adopting the resolution that's declaring it a surplus property. Then from there, we have to notify certain agencies, local school district, affordable housing developers, of the availability of the surplus piece of land. And then we need to engage in good faith efforts if anyone is, in fact, interested in acquiring it. And then at the end, we do get to make the decision as to who we provide the property to based on the purchase price and the fair market value.

So then this would void then the action that we took back in September to do the exclusive agreement with HERA?

I'm not sure if the legal term void would be...

It certainly interrupts the process, but it doesn't necessarily void the direction that you gave to city staff.

And then does this also then give him an opportunity to buy it?

or yes at the at the after you do all of those steps under the surplus land act and you don't reach any agreement or have an offer on the table that you would consider for the property you're free to offer it up and it can continue with the negotiations with caribou industries okay and

this has been again most likely it's been explained then to to mr harrow on what's happening so then for um how long would this interrupt the process this process there's two steps there's um 60 days

to give all of those agencies that the city manager mentioned an opportunity to send us a letter of interest and then 90 days of good faith just about roughly

about five six months yeah that's if you actually get any interest from it if you don't have any interest in it you don't have to engage in the full time length

of the second step okay okay thank you this fair yes go ahead just some brief comments I I think because in the past we've done RFPs and we've made other solicitations about folks that want to buy this property that you know we need to meet legal obligations but beyond that let's not be too free and adding too much additional time i know there's been a lot of staff work and a lot of private sector work and making this move forward and so definitely you know let's abide by the law but let's try to be expeditious about this thank you

thank you for those comments so with that i believe we have a motion a second those in favor press green next are we on the um is it 55b that's correct i would entertain a motion so moved second those in favor press green

60a i would call on uh mayor pro tem i'd like to uh make a motion on this item

Mr. Mayor and my colleagues would support it be greatly appreciated. I would like for the original amounts to be reinstated for the Women's Journey Foundation and if we could have those amounts kept the same because they're being reduced and if we could direct staff to find new funding for the Friday Night Lunch Program from a

different department. Okay before additional comment we do have one speaker Dr. Ana Jimenez please OCCTAC.

Good evening Major Council Members, City Manager. Thank you for giving me the opportunity just to say a few words. First of all, our organization has been in this city for 20 years. This year we're going to celebrate 20 years serving the Santa Ana community, so I'm very, very excited, and hopefully I will meet with some of you to share a little bit more. Each one of you has a little folder, a packet of information regarding some of our, just all the things that we have accomplished throughout the 20 years but I specifically want to thank

the council members for giving us the opportunity this year again we're one of the agencies recommended for the community development block grant and we have been doing this grant for the past three years at Willard Middle School because it has been a very very challenging environment for the youth and And we have been very successful the past three years doing our crime prevention and intervention program. This year we're also excited to be able to expand the same program that we have at Willard but at Carr Middle School.

So you will see the letters of support that we received from the principals at both middle schools and we really appreciate the fact that our agency is being recommended for funding. So thank you very much, and I hope to get your support too. Thank you.

Thank you. So we had a motion earlier by Mayor Pro Tem. Councilor Vince Armiento.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Very briefly, I wanted to thank Dr. Ana Jimenez. I've been a big fan of Octex for many, many years when you were in the downtown. Hopefully one day we'll get you back into the downtown when we find a sufficient space large enough to accommodate everything that you do. because every time i go to the building where you're at use every square inch or square foot of space and it's used really really well so i certainly want to thank you for being part of the community of network of resource providers because you certainly do a great job so thank you

for staff making sure that there's an allocation the only other mention i was going to make a Madam City Manager was on Delhi Center and I know that they have a couple of entries here with respect to the Family Economic Success Initiative program and the teens engaged in learning and leadership To the extent that there is any residual funding here once maybe adjustments are made or maybe there's some outside funding I know that they've done You know a very very compelling job of helping families with just learning how to bank learning how to use their economic resources themselves.

A lot of folks in that neighborhood and throughout town go there and seek support. So they do a great job with that, and they also provide services to teens. And so it is such an anchor community center in our city that whatever help we can find them would be greatly appreciated. So thank you.

Thank you. So with that additional... Yes, go ahead.

I think we like to always add to these items rather than take away. It sounds like there's two or three organizations that we're a little bit out of whack of. Maybe as in the past, staff can come back with the general fund dollars or we have some youth cannabis fund dollars that maybe we could program because a lot of these are oriented that way. So I don't know if we need to act on this tonight or if maybe you can take this input to bring it back because I think staff try to make an effort at funding some of the requests from last time and now now it's different so is there time for that?

Well I do believe I understand what the requests are so this item was before you at the last council meeting and we did make some changes to accommodate the direction from that council meeting and it did entail the reduction of two of the organizations to put money together for the the summer night lights program So what I'm hearing the motion really is on the table is to move forward with the approval with a few modifications, and that being restoration of the two that lost funding to put money together for Summer Night Lights and find money from somewhere else for the Summer Night Lights program,

and then in addition should we find any other monies from a different source also to enhance Delhi. That's my understanding, and I can move forward with that direction.

If you can, then I think that is acceptable. That's the motion. then motion those in favor press green and the motion is to accept the

recommendations we have two modifications restoring the two that were reduced from the last time it was before you to put the money together for the summer nightlights program and then finding money from elsewhere for the summer

nightlights program and how much money is that just further so they reduce the

two first recommended for those two organizations by 30,000 each to put 60 thousand together for summer night lights and then the second modification would be to direct staff to find any additional dollars for delhi maybe this is a similar amount that's probably

the only thing we haven't discussed councilman sarvita did you have a i'm sorry i lost an amount

for delhi that you were looking for you know i didn't i'm not sure what the request was i think the request was obviously higher than what was received and i don't know if we can fill that gap but to the extent that there could there could be some enhanced because these are two-year allocations and I know in the past we've gone out on a yearly and so they're used to the annual but to the extent we're going to go out for a two year contract I get it that way don't keep coming back every year but if you can maybe try to get as close as you can to what their original was or you know I

don't have a figure I guess it was reasonable and it was in the past

but my question is okay the other two programs that they received over a hundred thousand dollars why was it that they received over a hundred thousand dollars because it just because they asked for it or was it was there a criteria saying you guys I mean this is the max we can you know award per

provider the ad hoc and the full Commission went through all of the applications and met with each one of the organizations that was seeking funding and came up with those recommended amounts for you the last time and those two organizations were both over a hundred thousand I think they were both like a hundred and fourteen thousand then based on your input and what staff did is when they went back and they looked at what was awarded they looked at the ones that received the larger amounts and those were the ones they selected to take back money to cobble money together for the summer night lights program

and then I believe that's what happened last year too because I know we did give um pastor not the money for the night slide out because he wasn't awarded last time either so I don't know I just I just have a concern that you know we're bringing we're taking money from other other area what area are you thinking of taking the money from in order for us to find it most likely it would be general fund

dollars that I would be seeking for the budget for next year for them or if we could find any other type of grant or special money that we could use based on the arts and culture programs that they are why why don't we just keep it as the

way it is I mean I would I would say leave it as it is and then if you know if the other two individuals that need more money then you know then we can find them money later but I think right now we could just we should just leave it as is I mean this is the recommendation we held it for two weeks for a reason you guys went back you know you guys did your research it's okay this is how we're gonna solve this this dilemma that we're having so that basically be an alternative motion yeah but let's continue on this one mayor

pro-town real quick so you know the the delhi center had like three different programs that applied and they were the largest amount or two actually I think it was three but they were down at two and there were pretty large amounts and I think that you know we want to help them and I understand that maybe we want to increase that amount just a bit but the ad hoc committee or the committee that was composed by the committee and a staff member from the city did make some good recommendations and they gave me some good reasons why. But I do believe that the Summer Night Lights program is very effective. It's very, very good.

I've attended quite a few. And I think it's necessary for our youth and the families, especially in these areas where they're being presented. So that's why I think it's important. and so I would like that to keep going and that's my personal request and my colleagues feel that they want to support then you know thank you very

much okay we have additional comment Pena Loza followed by Solario followed by

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the Sarah thank you mr. mayor I don't how that's the manager if we were to push back push this back again two weeks would it be cause a delay in these different organizations receiving these funds we could delay two weeks but I would feel much rather comfortable just approving the the item as is and then finding the fundings for those organizations that were reduced from that from the whatever pots we could find that way everybody at least get something from the get-go so I'd like to make a substitute motion to approve the

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item as is with and then have staff come back with with additional funding for those two organizations that were reduced because they were both getting over a hundred grand that's a substantial amount of money compared to the other organizations across the board I know there are dozens that didn't receive any so that would be my substitute motion okay we have a substitute

motion with second comment so the other one still has been here 45 years and we

just presented an award for them 45 years of being here giving so much back we're talking generations of families in Baleflocotico here and it's a landmark so I mean we're gonna we're gonna approve this and then turn around and try to find more funding later we could just go ahead and approve the

original and then go ahead and find for it well vote against the substitute the same original come back copy that but I think Solari want to speak and then

Sarah you know I think either route goes fine I think we just want to fully fund the organization we're talking about maybe so there's a little bit of comfort to maybe tonight on either option if we can just kind of say we're approving both so even if it's you know councilmember Viegas motion may we just add that the remaining amount be funded out of the cannabis youth dollars for example or the general fund that way we can act on it collectively I think there is a little bit of unease that some folks get you know their share tonight some may need to wait

two weeks or beyond and there's a sense of unfairness there uh so those are just my thoughts but either that we do it all today or do it all in a couple weeks but some now some later that's

what doesn't feel as right so can i may clarify council members so yes what you're asking is do approval as what the recommendation is before you tonight but then also direct staff to find additional dollars for the two organizations that were reduced and that don't make that part of the

motion but i think right now it's just the colleagues we're trying to figure out the best

route so i'm saying we're doing the same thing you're doing should have just seen i think the

original motion accomplished that that's councilor becerra thank you mr mayor um i think we're really

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blessed in the city to have all these organizations come through and i think that's the challenge that we all face is trying to figure out the appropriate amounts to help these organizations accomplish all the wonderful work that they're doing for our community. With that being said, we had a very, I think, thoughtful and thorough process to vet the allocations for these organizations and I want to thank the the Commission staff and everybody that did all the hard work and if I remember correctly from our previous meeting actually did some site visits and really kind of flushed out

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everything. But with that being said, I just for me I'm very uncomfortable with idea of just giving vague general direction to staff on these sorts of things you know go find the money just go figure it out i think we should be a little more i i think cautious and more conscientious of how this money is being spent and where it's coming from i want to echo some of the sentiments that my colleagues have already said as far as you know i think what we have before us is appropriate i think what i would feel more comfortable with is staff coming back to us

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with specific dollar amounts and where the money is coming from just so that we know where it's coming from it's not just coming out of thin air but we understand where it's coming from but i i do you know agree with the mayor and uh the pro tem as far as let's try to get to that goal of getting everybody funded but let's just at least be more clear in how it's being done that's

my only concern mr mayor all right well we have a substitute motion we have an original motion

go ahead mayor protest and thank you councilmember passera but the thing is you know we're not hiding anything just we're going to find out where the money's coming from regardless so you know whether it's this one this motion or the previous motion it's still on paper and i just wanted to make that

clear all right we have a substitute motion real quick i just want to be clear i'm not i'm not

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alluding that we're hiding anything all i'm just saying is just to have it more clear on here that

this is where the money's i think the original motion addressed that but but we have a substitute motion those in favor press green those both press red obviously

so it passes on a four to three

the substitute motion you know how we used to do we used to use that time in the interim and i don't know if anybody used these two weeks effectively i think just to say apparently not i know but that It was simpler because it is difficult to say no or here's more, here's less than anything.

City manager used to sit with people and actually take him a date. But it's incumbent upon us to share that with her. With a city manager.

Madam City manager, did I have a conversation with you a couple of times about this?

And I think some of us did. But I know that it's so difficult because sometimes it seems random and arbitrary because everybody has a compelling argument. And ultimately it is random and arbitrary.

It's why we're here. All right. so next item one more thing mr. mayor yes madam city clerk I need to change my

motion on 20a and I want to be a no on that 20 record him as a no please

don't know why since my colleague voted against me but that's okay

all right are we now on item 75a oh 65a to discuss fields a dog park at Centennial Park provide staff didn't we already do that no you haven't seen this

information we do have a brief presentation if you will entertain us

all right it's a good presentation

All right, good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, members of the City Council.

Lisa Rudloff, Executive Director of Parks, Recreation, and Community Services. Tonight, we are here to follow up on the December 3rd meeting where you directed the City Manager to look into the feasibility of a dog park at Centennial Park. And we did that. In my research, I found that this is not the first time this has come to the City Council in 2010. There was a request for a dog park or dog parks. The Parks and Recreation Agency conducted a feasibility study in 2011 and determined there were two areas for a dog park,

and one of them was actually this Centennial Park, which we're talking about tonight.

The proposed site is a three-and-a-half-acre site behind the reservation office. It's in the southwest corner of the park. And I went and walked this the other day, and it really is a perfect location for a dog park. There's no homes around it. They will not be bothering the neighborhood. There's many places that you can enter and exit.

There is ample parking. There is a parking structure. We also have a parking lot here by the reservation office. We could make a path to the proposed walking path to the site here. We also have a really cool entrance here off of Castor. And you could put a gate here if you wanted to. People could enter this way. And even if we needed additional parking, this site could accommodate additional parking. I don't think we need that because we have the parking structure. There is also a little entrance here off the bike trail.

We could also, you know, people taking their dogs for a run on the bike trail, they could enter that way. So it's a really good site, in my opinion. The only problem with this site is it's for educational purposes only. And so before, it used to be for recreational purposes, and the city changed it to educational purposes for the construction of a fire training center. And so the fire training center was there for some time, then it closed. All right, it's okay.

And so we would have to convert that back to recreational purposes, because it would be a dog park. And so there's two ways to do that. One is a land conversion, similar to what we're doing at Centennial Educational Center. We would have to do a land conversion. We'd have to purchase like square footage acres and equal value. So we'd have to find money to do that. Then we'd have to get National Park Service approval. Or we could do a surplus, surplus the land. So we would give it back to the National Park Service. they would surplus the land, but then we'd run into potentially someone else buying it.

And I think this happened when the fire training center, they almost lost it, the city almost lost it, because somebody else wanted to purchase it. So those are two ways that we could change the use of this area back to recreational. Once we get it back to recreational, then we can hire a consultant to develop the conceptual plans, the construction drawings and provide a quote for how much it would cost to develop. We did talk with the city of Anaheim. They are developing a one acre dog park and it's about $400,000 per acre. So we estimated it would be about $1.6 million for this site.

This is the entrance off of Castor if you were to put a gate, you could potentially put a gate here and people could drive in.

You also asked about future dog parks throughout the city, and I think we can accomplish that by, oh wait, I'm sorry, there is like a really important dog in this picture.

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That is a really beautiful dog.

It's a beautiful, it's a show winning dog. I think it's Council Member Penalozis.

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He's smart, he's cute.

He is, I know, he's amazing. He smells like dirt.

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And he eats Barbies.

He eats Barbies. That's a sick dog. I don't know what.

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Also, I heard avocados are bad for dogs. He's been eating them whole since he was like a puppy.

You may need to go to training.

Anyway, back to me. The future dog parks, we could accomplish that by doing a parks master plan. it will identify other areas in the city it does a comprehensive review of our city and tells us other locations and such so I don't have any other pictures of any other council members dogs that's the end of my presentation and I'd be

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happy to answer any questions I have a question well oh lord

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Thank you Lisa for the nice presentation. Now they put me up there. Thank you. You can see my voting sticker. If anyone here hasn't voted, please leave and vote. You've got 30 minutes. With that said, thank you so much for this presentation. Very nice. But I had some questions in regards to the educational component of it and how the land. and I briefly discussed this with the city manager. And if there was a way where all that land swap isn't necessary in making the dog park in itself educational

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and maybe the border fence around the park consists of educational ways of how to care for your dogs and your animals and different organizations allowed them to educate and be responsible pet owners. Because I know that in San Anno, there's a lot of unresponsive or not responsible pet owners in regards to neutering and spaying and training. And I've heard of training roosters to fight and dogs to fight, which is terrible. and maybe we could use the signage and fencing around the park perimeter

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to educate people on the importance of neutering, the importance of spaying, the importance of training, the importance of different breeds, how to care for different animals. Would that be a way where we could address that educational part of it and allow us to move forward with the dog park without having to do any of these land swaps?

Councilmember Penaloza, I don't know the answer. I would have to contact the National Park Service, do a little more research, and have to get back to you or the city manager on that.

I really like the ideas that you had in the compsets. We'll have to research it, and it'll be one of those where we'll seek approval on it without really trying to give everything away on it with the deed restrictions. I can say that with the work that we did with the college and working with the National Park Service, it's a very arduous and long process.

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Okay, and one small little question. The Park Reservation Center that's just right next to it,

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are we using that to 100% of its full ability? Yes. And also the police department is utilizing that area. For training, right? I heard. Okay, so that's used daily by Parks and Rec staff and the

police department. Yes, and we also have our park security seven vehicles parked there in that

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parking lot. The Park Security Guards? The Allied Universal? Yes. Okay. But it's not

just used for vehicle storage? No, the buildings are utilized by Parks and Recreation and the Police Department. Okay, because I was under the impression that

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it was only being used for vehicle storage, like an extra parking lot for staff, and that the buildings were... and again I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that the building was underutilized so maybe and it's an older

building yes they're modular older buildings right for sure so I mean maybe

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it could open up a better a bigger idea downsizing the footprint of the building to what we can or if it is needed you know tell me now and I won't but but just looking at different ways where we could maybe expand the make it a bigger

size because you said three point bigger it's three and a half acres it's huge okay you can even put you know water features I mean you it could really be a nice dog park okay and and I think it's ample space but if you're looking for bigger space we certainly know I mean it's I'm

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just trying to think of I'm trying to visualize 3.5 acres in my head the dog parks in I know the the closest one like did we look at dog parks nearby the size of those i know that i saw it

somewhere in the report um he's looking for the size there's a variety of sizes of dog parks throughout the county

I have a couple of questions and I know also a history on what's going on with with with that site I don't know if Ron is here today but I know he's been in contact with the National Parks services on how we could utilize this and we understand that it is a you know educational component also this could be an opportunity to to see me know with it with this the high schools here in Santa Ana I know some of them are going in looking to the trade schools you know so maybe some could go like veterinarian assistants I know that that said that's an upcoming profession for some of them

so you know so the the ones who work at the veterinarian fit the like the back back office or the you know the medical assistants they could also utilize I would say part of that maybe once a you know once a month we could put a component of educational opponent you know they can come and train the community on how to do whatever it is they know what Councilmember Pena Losa was saying so we could have more informed dog ownership responsibility sense of you know pride in in Santa Ana too and then also in Santa Ana we hit we do have our own shelter right do we have a shelter for animal shelter here in

Santa Ana we contract with the county for that oh we do okay but I know that for life first time you know like how to spay I mean the US send out information you know individuals were over the age of 50 or something like that get a discount if you have a pet and you spay them or something like that I know that's part of the city services that we provide so that also again would be an educational component that we could add to that but I know Ron's here I know you could you could provide us I know with Chris we have been talking about this for the past three or four years and you know what could be done with the

site and that was one of the things that when we spoke to I think it was David or Michael or something like that from the National Park Services they were open to this so I don't know if you want to share what's going I mean a little bit of a history on that

uh yes when I talked to David Singenthaler and National Park Service they were open and making the transfer back to recreational purposes only we just have to take and make a process in doing that and in answer to an earlier question about the educational part of the facility when when the city went forward to decide to put in a fire training center we understood the process to do that but before we even started that process we actually talked to the Department of Education if a fire training center would be acceptable if it'd be turned back into educational purposes and they said yes

so to answer a question whether a dog park with with with educational signage would be acceptable we could talk to the Department of Education if that would be acceptable or not and and if it is then we it's an easier process and not just the signage

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but councilwoman iglesias i mean she did i didn't think of that uh having you know once a month training for animals i know in my own family i have uncles throughout the city that they'll ask me oh my dog license bill came in why is it a hundred and whatever dollars i was like oh mine was 17 bucks and they're like why is it so little it's because you're a council member and you're in the city I was like no it's because I neutered my dog and it's you know it's and he's like I could never do that to my dog that's cruelty it's like no the fact that you're not neutering your animal

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is cruelty so it helping educate our community because everyone here loves pets it's a big pet city everyone has dogs and roosters and bunnies and cats and just having that I mean that's a that could go a long way and really we could I haven't heard of that concept that other dog parks that I've been to in Orange County but if we're gonna do something with that we could be pushed on that on educating just responsible pet ownership all right

they're like into that that would be great

council members Alodio thank you I'm a mayor for Tim Vigas a couple things first I think we're all anxious just to make it happen I know there were some prior reports but since when I was on the council the first time we've been talking about at dog park and now we have the great staff to make it happen and resources through measure X and otherwise and maybe some of these various requests that we need to make of the federal government we can do more parallel and maybe even before we can do the initial nice construction maybe we could put out some bark or some other materials there and even start using it

as early as this summer I mean it's it's it's it's our land and I do think we could do a lot of things that are you know educational recreational and we just need to be creative just to make it happen this community has been waiting a long time or maybe there's special events just to showcase the opportunities or ask others for ideas I know in the past you know we've done kind of similar things just to you know get people thinking about it but long story short as many of these things that we could do in a parallel way to fast-track it the better just because you know certainly council member will research all the

options and the suggestions that we've heard tonight and report back to you.

Fantastic and then I like the park directors idea for park opportunities, dog park opportunities, because it could be medium or small. In other parks, as part of the park master plan outreach that we should do, we should ask you know neighborhoods and folks around parks you know if they envision that for their communities that's a good way to address the need that there is citywide because people want more than one. Thank you. So it's the staff. Thank you, staff.

Is the staff clear on the direction? Yes. All right. Very good. Okay. We're going to move on to 75A's public hearing. Mr. Mayor. Oh, yes. Councilman Pignallosa. Just really quick. So

David PenalozaItem —

was that item just a report and discussion? Get feedback and then we would come back to the

Discussion item, correct.

David PenalozaItem —

So when would we see?

So the next steps would be to research the items that we heard tonight to see if that's even a possibility to add the educational component. The funding in the staff report, there is an estimated cost of about $1.6 million for that. So more than likely, we would need to do that through the budget process, starting with the next fiscal year.

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And just maybe if we could find just also creative ways, And I don't know if dog companies do sponsorships where we could have their advertising up or name it. I'm just thinking Petco Park. I'm not saying Petco, but maybe help out a little bit in the form of a donation in return for a sponsorship. I'm not sure what that possibility is, but that's another idea. So thank you.

75A, this is a time and place to open a public hearing to approve a disposition and development agreement with Thrive Santa Ana, Inc. and a 99-year ground lease for the development of a microform at 1901 West Walnut Avenue. City Manager, is there a presentation of any type?

It's very brief. What the item is before you is it's two components. It's approving a DDA and then approving a ground lease. So as you may be aware, this is a piece of land that this nonprofit has been working very hard on to get a micro farm. It is quite a popular idea with the surrounding community. So what we're looking for is to enter into a one-year DDA where there will be certain performance requirements. And in the event that those performance requirements are all met, it would convert then to a 99-year ground lease.

there would be termination provisions for the city should the micro farm be not kept up on that piece of property.

Very good. Is there any questions from the council members for the staff?

I have a question.

Where are we right now with developing this micro farm with, I guess, the applicants or the proponents?

I know this came before us last year and you know we're supposed to be following I guess a timeline and maybe breaking ground or doing something so where are we with that I'll ask Steven Mendoza

he can talk about the history was my understanding they've been trying to get it up and running for a couple years and you were giving them year extensions to do that as to what if they've started anything right now if you could speak to that Stephen. I certainly can.

If you'll remember the council entered into an ENA exclusive negotiation agreement which would bring us to this point. The ENA expires in about two weeks so we want to make sure that we met this deadline. It's a performance measure in the ENA to meet this deadline for a DDA. So us bringing the DDA to you with Louis Sarmiento of Thrive they've signed it they've agreed upon these terms and so with your solidification of the or approval of the agreement tonight then they can move forward and have access to the property and begin their one-year

period of meeting another milestone before this turns and evolves into a

lease like the city manager said. And why is it 99 years because I know I've seen

other agreements that is less why is it 99 years yeah thanks Louise 99 was selected by them and us to have at they will have to secure other vendors for this site they also may enter into borrowing and lending and so they wanted the best terms possible for the longest period of time to solidify the site but

there's terms and conditions if they're not met then there there certainly are

if you see i believe it's a 55 page lease um sonia staff ryan hodge worked diligently with thrive to come up to a lease terms and ddas that we can both move with work with and be defensible thank you

you're welcome thank you steven uh councilmember thank you mr pro tem sorry you're about to call me vitz right I almost called you this that's fine I answer that too so normally these community land trusts are done in fear from what I understand so this is a way that the city continues to sort of make sure that milestones are met you know and things are being completed but what I was going to say I know there's a stack of speaker cards so to the extent that maybe there's consensus amongst the council I know it's a busy night for everybody and the last thing we want to do is keep everybody

here sometimes when less is said it's more um you know but you know maybe we could take a straw poll unless there's uh something really compelling that uh you know this has been before us so many times that i think we've heard a lot of it and this is just a one year um madam city manager

so a one-year dda that would convert to a 99 year lease i'll make a motion to approve

also we're not there yet so we have to finish the end oh yeah go ahead

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councilmember I think well I Sarah thank you mr. pro temp I I want to echo a councilmember Sarmiento's comments and I appreciate staff's approach to this I think it's a responsible approach I mean you know giving folks the opportunity to take on city land and use it for the benefit of the community I mean everybody's got their own ideas of what those benefits are I think this matches up to a lot of the goals that this council has and I think that for us to be responsible in how we utilize this land I think this is a great way to work and hopefully this becomes a model for other pieces like this that we could

Phil BacerraItem —

then work with other partners in the community to do so I mean to to the comments of my colleague I think less comments or more depending on what I think my other colleagues will say but I think that there seems to be a good

current of support at this point all right very good it's a councilman I

would just say I don't know if you guys feel that you guys want to share something I would I'd be okay hearing a couple of them if that's what the will

of it would you I'm gonna make sure we have but we've come forward I just wanted is that the developer present you want to come forward you want to say

Yeah, Mr. Sermia, too. That's right.

Okay, very good.

By the way, just for clarity, no relationship. Although I thank you a lot, Luis. You know, we're brothers in arms, but not blood-related.

That's correct. Thank you. Thank you for that, Council Member. Yeah, thank you for the opportunity. This proposal, this DDA, is the result of a lot of hard work, both on the community's end and on the city's end. I might say and thanking also the staff that have brought this along it was about four years ago that the city decided to start looking into the community land trust model as a platform that allows the city to partner with community members and with developers and this is just you know the the first step in

changing the way that we want to do development more and more in partnership with residents. And so I just want to name that. And also we have something about 30 or so letters of support from residents that we just gathered within the last week. I'd like to submit those and letters of support from organizations like Templo Calvario, Latino Health Access, the SAS Santana Active Streets Coalition, the City Fabric

which is a non-profit architectural design company that helped us design the site in partnership with with residents and also Clue, clergy and lady United for Economic Justice. So thank you for this opportunity and we really look forward to moving this forward. It's true we need the council's approval today in order for this to be able to move forward. So thank you and then we will be able to move on to acquire the entitlements and the construction

permits. Thank you. Great thank you Luis. Is there any members of the public? I know I have some cards here. You know I think there's plenty of support for this project but some members of the public that gave me a card if you want to come forward you can have three minutes it's not it's up to you okay very good let me bring it back to the council we'll hold on these for the record

councilmember Solorio thank you I'm supportive of this effort I know it's been a long time in the making it's unfortunate does take this long but it looks like a lot of good work's been done on on both sides and hopefully again like with the other programs to the extent we can advance it now that there's a you know that it's at this stage with with this level of support that would be helpful also I know staff and considering this project I think appropriately so we're essentially saying that because of earlier work we didn't need to do the new surplus land act and I think we should be on a case

by case basis making those assessments so this you know that this I think seems fine appropriate given what we have taken action previously. You're correct

council member. We did have an effective ENA at the time period required to meet the SLA so it was considered already taken care of before January 1 because of your existing ENA.

And I think there's a good case for that, and it's written up. I'm just saying, is there other similar projects? Let's look at them all in a case-by-case. Thank you.

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Councilmember Becerra. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Pro Tem. Question for staff.

Phil BacerraItem —

The speaker had mentioned entitlements for this project. Are there any entitlements required other than the execution of this DDA?

There will be a level of entitlements maybe for the layout of it, site plan review, and site plan approval by the planning department. This gives them a year to do that and a year of possible extension and then it turns into a 99 year lease.

Phil BacerraItem —

So the site plan review though would be primarily handled by staff. It wouldn't be something that needs to come back to a planning commissioner or council for review.

yes correct okay it is staff review okay great and and with that but it takes them a while to ramp up and have the site plans and necessary to submit for that of course of course well with

Phil BacerraItem —

that I'd like to just go ahead and make a motion that we go ahead and authorize the city manager to execute a DDA with Thrive Santa Ana okay very I just thought there was a motion that just yeah

yeah oh that's fine very good is there a second who's a second yeah oh oh can you unless a second all those of the paper press green button very good excellent

all right congratulations thrive 75 b's another hearing this is time and place to a public hearing to approve sales tax sharing agreement with TAC Energy. Does the staff have a presentation?

Mayor Pro Tem, just some brief comments and then we do have staff available for any questions that should come up. But this item before you is for a sales tax sharing agreement. We have the benefit of having a headquarters sales office located in Santa Ana. and in 2013 the city did enter into a sales tax sharing agreement with the company which was at that time IPC. IPC in November of 2019 was purchased by TAC Energy and TAC Energy approached the city and wanted to engage in the same sales tax sharing and it to do so they committed to staying a hard five years

with considerations of committing their sales office here for 25 years and that's

item before you tonight okay very good is there any questions for from the council members for the staff council member Iglesias how many other

businesses do we have this type of agreement with sales tax sharing

agreement executive director Steven Mendoza will tell you the others that we

have in place yes we currently have agreements with two okay and which one's the other one Volvo is the other one huh and IPC which was the one that was

under their previous name okay I know this was approved before I was on the council but um well what's the re I mean what's the requirement or what is the criteria for us to even enter in these type of agreements because I know there's other other I would say businesses that would want the same type of opportunity I mean, how do we choose who we do this type of agreements with?

Well, again, the IPC agreement predated me. I'm not sure what we got into to generate that. But normally, economic development success takes three things. It takes tools, teams, and tactics. Sales tax agreement is a tool to retain businesses that create additional sales tax and revenue for the city for us to provide services therefrom. if you take an example of $10 the city would take in $10 and then provide $5 back but we wouldn't if we didn't do that agreement we wouldn't have the $10

to begin with if that makes sense yeah but I'm giving don't we have like bigger like say like the grocery stores or like the big don't Walmart's whatever I mean I know they bring in a lot of sales tax you know into grocery stores do not

bring in a lot of sales tax unfortunately most most food that takes

preparation is not taxed okay how about like like the Walmart's the Target's a big good sales tax producers yes so I mean what is it that's preventing us I'm not saying that we should but I'm just saying what is it that preventing us from having these type of agreements with them too well if Costco knocked on

our door I'll bet you the city manager would be bringing the same kind of offer to the council for that.

How do you get this? I mean, because it just seems like we're giving tax breaks to just different individuals and not giving it across the board. Not that I think we should, but it's like, why?

Typically, you would enter into an economic assistance agreement when you're attempting to locate a significant sales tax producer to your city. And that would be like a national sales office, a headquarters of a business that not only produces substantial sales tax dollars, they also provide jobs, good-paying jobs for the community. So back in 2013, I pulled up the original agreement, and that is exactly what it was. The city council preceding you took the initiative so that they could relocate that company into our city, which we didn't have a company like that.

We didn't have someone that produced that level of revenue that we could locate. So that's the reason for that economic assistance. With your retailers, oftentimes you don't have to lure a retailer to a particular city because they like to locate based on the demographics and based on the sales volume. So it's not someone that you would typically entertain in an economic assistance agreement. Costco is probably one of the exceptions, and they're having a lot of cities in Southern California that have done economic assistance because Costco's are significant tax generators.

Okay, so what you state here is like there's 30 jobs that this company creates in Santa Ana. How many are they all Santa Ana residents?

We don't know that, but there are certainly businesses that are employees who have established a base here and this firm wants to make sure that those employees stay in our city and also have the assurances of where their job will be located in future months. So what started off, as Christine said, what started off as a business attraction is now in the form of a business retention program. It's to retain these jobs and this business in our city. Okay.

And then this, as you said, is for five years that they're guaranteeing that they're going to stay?

They're committed for five years to stay. And then they have the sales tax sharing revenue will go for 25 years. So we're hoping that the five years they're obligated to stay for, but with the additional economic assistance in the outlying years, that they will commit to a full 25 years.

And what is their share of the sales tax that they bring into the city if they weren't to be here? What's that amount?

The split is 50% up to $1.4 million, and then it would go to 70%.

I believe she's asking what's the sales tax that they generate.

in 2016 it was 890 a year was the total generated eight hundred and ninety thousand dollars a year at which we gave half back and then in 2019 it was 1.2

million okay okay thank you councilmember Sarmiento thank you mr. mayor pro ten so I think I'm one of the few that was here in 2013 and and the mayor was as well and others but this was a company i guess the the predecessor to tac energy was ipc and i think they were in irvine from what i remember and irvine couldn't work a deal out with them but really i guess what this is none of the manufacturing is here none of the footprint is here it's just the point of sale that they moved to the city so they you know if if they're doing what 2.7 billion

gallons of Petro. I think their business is oil and they do five billion dollars in revenue. Look, to the extent we could have more of those companies have their points of sale here in the city and we recover that revenue, look, that's revenue that doesn't impact, have any secondary effects on our community. It's just the sales that are going through here. So it was one way to attract a business that was in a neighboring city that we could bring here without any of the secondary effects, right? So now, I mean, I certainly wanted to thank staff for being able

to negotiate a longer deal with them because they could have moved to another city in the deal that we had. And, you know, to the extent that others are available and they see that they could have their headquarters here in Santa Ana and have their manufacturing and all the other issues that they have refineries or something else someplace else but all the transactions go through our city and we recover the sales on the sales tax on that look that's a pretty good deal from what i know ipc was one of the 10 largest revenue generators for the for the city correct so you know without

any of the bad effects right because we do have some that do cause some effects and some challenges to the town so i think that this is something i want to thank staff for negotiating a longer agreement with these folks and hopefully using this as a template or a model for others that want to move their headquarters here it'd be great for Santa to be known as a place where large you know fortune 500 companies to have their headquarters here in the city and I'm not sure if anybody from TAC energy is here but you know thank you all for coming and you know having faith

and doing business in the city that's what we want to do we want to attract businesses especially like these that don't have bad consequences to folks and And at the same time, I know that it was brought to us by a consultant that, you know, I think just proposed it and said, here's a company that's not happy with Irvine. And they said, here, you know, Santa Ana is going to welcome you with open arms and we're supposed to be a business friendly town. And this has certainly resulted in good consequences for us. So to the extent that, yeah, this can be used as a template, I certainly would encourage it.

and I know that the consultant that brought it to us was very helpful and staff were following up with this new successor, I guess. I'm not sure if it was purchased or if it was an assignment, but it wouldn't have happened without the predecessor company coming here first. Thank you. It's the pleasure of the council.

I'll move the end.

Is there a public hearing element?

Yes, but there was no speaker cards. For the rest of the room, there's no speaker cards. Sorry.

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i just had a brief quick question stephen um i'm just i the reading the staff report uh yesterday i was a little confused on why it goes i understand that the more the higher the sales number uh it goes from 50 to 70 but it wasn't clear on who that gets the 70 is it they keep the 70 of the profits or or we get the 70 of the profits because the staff report was written so that it's very deceptive and doesn't clarify who ends up with that extra 20. The more they produce, the more

David PenalozaItem —

they get. The more they keep. Yeah. And is that something that was off the table during negotiation? I would have just preferred to keep it at 50% regardless of what their number of sales is.

They were seeking the same terms as the company that they purchased had and that was the terms that they had. And it's incentive for them to increase their sales at the location.

David PenalozaItem —

okay so that so keeping it at 50% regardless of what the sales number is was all was never part of the conversation or a possibility what we

did was we like the city manager said we mimic the old agreement and gave them a new term to those same we gave a new length of 25 years to the same terms that they had previously under IPC that was our starting point and that's what agreed upon and that's what we're bringing forward to you tonight it offers an incentive for them to have more sales here remember they just got purchased by someone else ipc was purchased by someone else sales could go up and we want those sales to happen in santa anna not somewhere else so moving the sales staff to this office could this could be an incentive to move more

of their accounts to this office we did believe in the in our initial meetings with them as tack energy after they acquired the company in november 2019 they were considering moving it out of santa ana so as stephen had mentioned before it was a business retention i believe they're out of texas correct they're headquartered in texas so they could have collapsed their national sales office to existing offices in texas we wanted to retain him here and what they were seeking was simply the same terms as what the company that they acquired had in place with the city

any other questions from council members

if not thank you stephen thank you again council member uh saloni brought up a good point uh is there any uh speaker cards on this from the public this public hearing no there wasn't no seeing no speakers and there's no speaker cards we're going to move to the council what the pleasure of the council second all those in favor press green on the button

very good I'm gonna move on to the next item 85 a council members iglesias and

also this is your item yes thank you thank you for um I'm an opportunity to speak on this and I feel this item goes directly to the what we've been trying as a council to address which is the the homeless a transient issue that we have here in Santa Ana and a lot of it stems from legislation that comes up you know comes down from Sacramento which is prop 47 prop 57 a B 109 and one of the

things that I would ask my colleagues here and you know the council is to to see if we can support legislators up in Sacramento who want to amend these these laws to have that are you know that are affecting our way of doing business here here and here in our city and one of the things that I was speaking to the city manager, I know there's legislators up in Sacramento that would want to amend,

I believe it's AB 109, and that is our assembly member who represents like the west end of Santa Ana, which is Tyler Deep right now. He has introduced a bill that would amend the, I guess, the shoplifting and like the consequences for the individuals who are who are you know in this lifestyle because right now it just makes it so easy for them just to go in and just you know with their calculators they go and say okay it's not more than 950 we know we're not going to be

i guess held i guess responsible in a way because the law protects us so i would like it if you could Madam City Manager read what's before the state legislatures right now with what

Assemblymember Tyler Deeb has introduced? Certainly. So, Councilmember, he introduced AB 3131, and it's basically a modification of Prop 47, exactly as you mentioned, which is to adjust shoplifting provisions. It is expected to be here heard in the Assembly Public Safety committee in late March and so there is plenty of time before that bill is considered to the committee should we wish to take a support position on it

so if it's a pleasure of the council I'm hoping if we can send a letter of support for it for this committee and also if we could send it all to our the state legislators like letters letting them know that we're in support of something like this because I read also an article and I think it's on the I wish the chief was here the I think is that the chief of police the Association of Chiefs of Police one one of the things that they mentioned too is you know it's very hard for them to do their jobs because these these these you know

propositions and this AB 109 kind of ties their hands on doing what they have to do and if we could also support them that'd be awesome and I know you had mentioned to Madam City Manager there's something to I believe I don't know if it's in 2020 November that we're going to be having something yes so the since

the the items were created let me say they were voter approved initiatives so the legislature can only modify them it would take an initiative to actually repeal them and that was one of your discussion items on there and such an initiative effort was taken in 2018 and the Secretary of State did certify that they had the appropriate numbers of signatures. It's coined the Reducing Crime and Keeping California Safe Act and it will be on the ballot in November

2020 for the voters to decide. So I'm wondering if as a city, you know, as council we could add our names to that, you know, to support something like that because I think it would definitely help us with what's going on here, especially with the transients and you know the you know the drug and criminal issues that are happening here in our city and definitely it's going to increase our quality of life here in Santa Ana so I want to thank councilmember Pena Losa for being you know I would say a co-sponsor on the end this item you know and I don't know if you have anything to share yeah I just wanted to thank you as

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well for bringing this forward something that's you know it a lot of propositions and bills that were initially at the draft I wasn't there but I'm assuming you know the thought behind it was good and now these unintended consequences that we see on our streets every single day throughout the state is very problematic for the safety and well-being of our community I'll keep it very short but you know it's something that I'm supportive of to send letters and support to these different committees that are trying to repeal these propositions and and and the assembly bills um because you know it's just over the weekend on

David PenalozaItem —

a ride-along you know we had ever i was just seeing things you know a woman pulled over with all kinds of paraphernalia and money and i mean thousands of dollars in cash and stolen merchandise and everything under the sun and she walked away from the scene with the ticket and these are things where it's like how can we have a safe community when these when people that are now out on our streets that could be or should be in prison it's effect it's affecting our community and that's what we see the homeless problem out of control and I'm supportive of this so thank you

Phil BacerraItem —

councilmember Becerra thank you thank you mayor pro tem I appreciate my colleagues for bringing this forward and I do see the negative impacts that props 47 57 and AB 109 have had on our community with that being said you know it is as the city manager pointed out we do have an item that did not qualify in time to make it onto the November 2018 ballot but will be on the November 2020 ballot and I personally support that initiative and I hope that we all collectively will as well with that being said I know that there's going to be efforts by individual legislators and as those come forward and we have more

Phil BacerraItem —

information on them I'm happy to support them but you know knowing that this particular November ballot initiative is out there I think that's definitely something that we should be focused on if we're going to put forth efforts to really kind of push back on the negative impacts of props 47 57 and AB 109

thank you councilmember becerra any other councilmember salario yes uh thank you uh it's great

to have a discussion on this i think there's a lot of uh correct information out there about you know some of these initiatives there's uh misinformation out there but i i think as was said there is now an initiative coming up that's going to address uh some of the the needed fixes and now that some time has passed. But interestingly enough, the reason why it's the way the initiative is because in the legislature there isn't too much support for taking it you know in that direction. At the national level we'll even see and are seeing that President Trump has been addressing some of these criminal

justice reform items because I think for many that one of the ideas is for low-level, non-serious, non-sexual predator type of individuals that may be serving at the county is better than serving at the state, as well as there are resources now that the county does receive and the sheriffs for addressing this. And then finally, on the homeless thing, yes sure some may have a relation with some of these initiatives. The majority don't and or the data isn't there but on the whole if you just look at crime the reality is since then

all since all these items passed crime in most cities including Santa Ana is down you know if you go to the city's PD page you'll see that with the exception of you know some theft crimes that all the all other you know FBI UCR crime data items things are down so you know we can't say that you know all crimes are up and everything across the board is up because of these items but I'm glad there's a lot of support for this initiative that I do support as well that similar member Cooper is putting forward so that is fantastic thank you

there's no more comments I'll give my quick comment on this so AB 109 to me I thought was a big old mistake it's also known as a realignment so they could reduce the overcrowding and state prisons and they're gonna put them in the county the probation they were gonna use these prisoners move them over to the county jurisdiction and have probation monitor them and that's why probation has the task force on AB 109 many of them were out here in the Civic Center when I was working here probation officers were going out and I would ask them why are you guys out here you know why is the task force out here in the

Civic Center, he goes, well a lot of our AB 109ers are homeless and they're out here in the street.

And so I went digging and why is this population causing such a big problem if they're low level offenses when they're being released? What the state was doing is that they were looking at the last commitment offense that they had. So they have a long history, let's say a person has a long history of crime, committing all kinds of havoc out there, and then they get arrested on something that's minor, they go to jail because they've got a long history, that person won't qualify to be out because that commitment offense that they last did,

the recent one, was low. But they weren't taking into account the rest. So they were letting a lot of these bad guys out. And so when they call them, we call them non-non-nons, non-violent, non-serious, non-sexual offenders. Didn't matter. There was a lot of problems. Along with this, the Prop 4757, those were not great ideas. And then with the state, you know, making their changes on the marijuana laws, I don't think it's helping our youth. But those are my comments. I'm glad my colleagues brought this up. And we need to change. and our police officers out there they know exactly who they're dealing with

and they know that this population is out there and it's causing a lot of problems so with that i think that the staff has a clear direction on where we want to go and thank you very much we'll close that item we're going to move on to the public comments i have

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sorry 85b discuss and consider oh my mistake yeah discuss and consider directing the city to return the city council with options. This was for a coronavirus update. I know that the city of Costa Mesa has been fighting on behalf of the county to have any coronavirus patients placed there. I know there's been updates since. I basically just brought this forward because I think it's important that we have somebody that's paying attention and watching very closely on our staff to see what's happening because knowing how things usually happen in the county,

David PenalozaItem —

you know they're gonna want to place them at the california building across the street and that's you know i could just foresee something like that happening so i just wanted to make sure that we're staying vigilant on top of this and send the letter of of support to the city of costa mesa and keeping i mean we we were neighbors with the city of costa mesa uh we shop in the city of costa mesa and vice versa i mean that we're so close and share a huge shopping center so it's important that we let them know that we're supportive of their efforts in keeping

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orange county safe and that was basically it unless there was anything else from my colleagues

that they wanted to chime in on council member salient thank you mr mayor pro tem and thank you council member for putting this on here i know it's sort of a moot point at this at this moment but i think it gives us an opportunity to talk about look had the county and the city of costa if they agreed to make it a shelter, they wouldn't even be in this mess, right? So maybe that's a good way for them to pivot and consider that in case the federal government wants to revisit this at some point. But I do think it brings up the point where there's a lot of information and misinformation and paranoia.

Maybe there's a way that staff can work with the CDC or a responsible agency to put up some FAQs on our website, just given this virus and and obviously the the information that's been out there some accurate you know ways to address it you know i mean the obvious is obviously making sure that we wash our hands and we fist bump a little bit more but i think more than anything to the extent that it's available in multi languages in spanish and vietnamese so folks can just easily access that. But it is a little unsettling when you hear so much in the press, and sometimes the press is a little irresponsible when they

message on these things. A lot of it is to create, again, an anxiousness, and you see that with children, you see that with families that really don't understand what's happening. They just think that they're being overwhelmed by a plague. And so if we can provide a responsible source of good information that's accurate, I think that's helpful. So, thank you.

Thank you very much. Anyone else? Okay, we're going to move on to the public comments. My first card that I have here is Donna Carranza, followed by Kathleen Bigley.

Donna here.

Followed by Kathleen, followed by Heidi, followed by Lily.

Welcome.

Sorry about my entire – my teeth are on their way. No worries. So I'll excuse that.

This is actually what I'm addressing about. I volunteer at the MHA Multi-Service Center in the city of Santa Yotta. Seventeen years ago I walked in there as a client.

and I just wanted to let the City Council know and everything that our organization has helped me a lot it's not it's a place that we go when we need when we're afraid

I walked in there 17 years ago and this Saturday I just took my 17 years cleaning off the drugs and everything think to this organization I've been living in my place of residence for five years think for to this organization and they're not really done with me either I've been able to volunteer there for the last 17 years off and on and I helped run a thrift store in the back of their facility and one of our biggest goals is that we help the homeless and that is a lot of come in there with no clothes they don't have a shirt on the back if they need

something we give it to them thanks to these people I am a graduate of their organization but if I'm the still dire need or if I need someone to talk to if I need to get information I just still go to them and they'll take care of me

would you have our problems I'll be the first to admit that I think a lot of places have to have problems oh man I say it kind of breaks my heart because um lately we've been cut off from serving food there and I don't mean to really good off subject and stuff but um we used to being able to serve three meals a day there to clients and now since they dropped out the food I was going across on the way to McDonald's this morning I'm getting off subject but

I saw a couple clients in the trash trying to get food out and kind of breaks my heart what happens with a lot of the people there they are here allowed to get we have a medical truck that comes that will help people get their medication when they need it I was one of these people that when I first got there I got off my meds I don't oh I'm bipolar I have an other little issues you know but thanks to them I'm feeling better today and I see clients come in there every single day every single day that they don't know what they're gonna do tomorrow

they have no idea where they're going to sleep tomorrow where they're going to be tomorrow how they're going to get a meal tomorrow but at least for a few hours a day they have a place to come and they feel safe and that's another thing I've only specified we're safe there this is some place that we don't have to worry about anybody passing judgment on us and that's all I really got to say

thank you Donna, thank you very much Kathleen is it Bagley or Bagley?

Bagley. So who's Donna then? I'm Donna. Yeah Donna. Very good. Okay got it. That was the first name I called. Go ahead Donna. I'll just speak about MHA. I'm client there. I've been going there since 2012. I'm speaking the mic. I'm sorry. I'm client now. Yeah there you go. Perfect thank you. Okay I'm an MHA client. That way everybody can hear you. That way everyone can hear you.

I've been going there since 2012. They've helped me. I have a place to eat. I have a place to shower, bathroom. I have resources there that help with getting, you know, where to go for mental health. You know, where to go, doctor's appointments, things like that. I have a son who was homeless some years ago. They helped him, referred him, got him off the drugs he was on. And he's actually living in Ohio. He's been working for a number of years. He runs one of their veteran pizza places. So he's done real good. They helped him.

And as Kathy said, it's a safe area. Not all homeless people are on drugs. although I will say a majority seems to be, you know, are alcoholics. The MHA is a resource center also. They have a veterans department. Veterans come in. They have a housing department. You know, they have an employment department. So they do do a lot of things. They help people get linked with mental health counseling.

if they need a ride to there they transport them they do a lot of good but not not everybody out there homeless can go in there it is a mental health facility to qualify to go in there you have to be a homeless person you have to be have a mental diagnosis and be receiving care you know on your medication be seeing a psychiatrist and you have to be 18 or older so you know there are restrictions not just everybody can go in there they have a

list of rules you break the rules your exited which happens with a lot of people because they think they can go in there do what they want you know we're not allowed to take food outside well now we're not getting the food to take out but you know before that no food outside don't feed people other people that are out there in the street people don't follow the rules because they think they don't have to they get exited I mean they're strict but they're fair rules it's real simple you want to eat you want a shower you want to wash your

clothes you want to be able to have you know a bathroom you could use it's very simple the rules are simple you know I really don't know what I do with that I'm AJ there they've helped me a lot my issue is I do have an income but I need help with housing I need permanent help I can't I have I'm physically disabled I I also suffer from PTSD, which actually they have groups for that there.

So it's kind of, I can't go in some place, be in a shelter with a bunch of people, and I'm waiting for my permanent housing, and they have been really working with me on this.

Understood. Thank you very, very much, Don. I appreciate it. Kathleen, congratulations on your sobriety.

Next speaker is Heidi Toya.

mind if I go before her? Sure.

Mayor Pro Tem, Lily Graham. I got Lily? Yes.

Okay. Thank you. I have some letters that we submitted for the City Council. I just made some additional copies for everyone.

I can submit to City Council.

Evening, Mayor Pro Tem, City Council members. My name is Lily Graham. I'm an attorney with Disability Rights California. We're federally and state mandate, California's Protection Advocacy Agency. we represent the interests of individuals with disabilities in the state of California we aim to leave for self-determination live in least of a restrictive environment for our clients support community-based services to ensure equal opportunity MHA OC represents or allows homeless individuals with disabilities bring them in as its members and provides valuable resources it helps treat their disabilities allows them to maintain

their disabilities and provide services that are life-sustaining needs we have concerns about the lawsuit that the city of Santa Ana has filed against MHIOC our individual clients are affected we have a number of clients who are extremely stressed out they have no other options but the services that MHIOC in order to obtain these services. I think we're concerned about kind of the wide brush that homeless individuals are painted under. On your own website and our clients, people find themselves homeless because they lose a job. They're fleeing

domestic violence. There's not enough affordable housing in the city. They are working but their wages are not living wages. And some have substance abuse issues that they're working on and some have mental illness the service provided at MHA OC our essential services mental health treatment services therapy group support but also life-sustaining services that they are not able to obtain anywhere else and for some of us seems just just everyday essential items ability to do laundry accessible bathrooms they're able to store their

property not have to carry everything that they own with them wherever they go they're safe they have a community and they have people that help support and manage their disabilities Santa Ana has a number of homeless programs they have outreaches service and programs that emphasize the need to treat and help homeless individuals with mental illness and severe mental illness we believe this lawsuit violates the ad a due process there was not ample opportunity there was no conversation between MHA or the individuals that utilize the services MHA OC to accommodate any type of accommodation that could make the to

address the concerns of Santa Ana but also provide the necessary services for the individuals so we're asking the city of Santa Ana to dismiss the lawsuit work individuals at the individuals at MHA OC work with MHA OC to keep this valuable

resource thank you thank you very much last speakers Heidi do you oh yeah oh

yeah can't see written a little different so good evening mayor Bolido and council members my name is Heidi Hoya and I'm also an attorney with Disability Rights California similar as Miss Graham we just have very deep concerns that in attempting to shut down the Mental Health Association South Main Street site the city is also in violation of not only the ADA title 2 but also of the welfare institutions code 5120 you may or may not know or be familiar with this but there's been a long-standing history of people with

disabilities being segregated been placed in facilities and just involuntarily committed in mental health facilities for a very long time but through the Lanterman Petrus short act of 1972 the legislature sought to end these involuntary commitments and ensure that people with disabilities could actually receive mental health treatment and services in the least restrictive setting and in local communities as such they enacted welfare and institutions code 5120 which prevents cities from discriminating and the enactment of zoning laws between the use of property for the psychiatric care and treatment

of patients and use of property for general hospitals or nursing homes

unfortunately the city is doing exactly what the Lanterman Petra Short Act and WIC 5120 sought to eradicate by claiming that the South Main Street site is just multi-service center and can't operate in a C2 zone per as the Santa Ana Municipal Code but the South Main Street site as miss Kathy Paolo and miss Donna Carranza just expressed is more than that it's a property used for the psychiatric care and treatment of people with mental health disabilities and as mentioned they provide a wider array of services like group therapy medication

services referrals and just pretty much anything that will help a person with a mental health disability succeed and thrive in the community you know as such it is in par with hospitals sanitariums and clinics which are currently permitted in C1 and the C2 zones in the city of Santa Ana and where the site is currently located as such we ask that the city continue to allow people with disabilities to seek mental health treatment in their local communities by keeping the South Main Street site open. Thank you. Thank you very much. So, Madam

Clerk, do we have any more speaker cards? We do not. We do not have any more speaker cards. Okay, I'm going to close the public comment portion. We are going to address the excused absence of the mayor. We have a... I'll move it.

Yes, we're opening the Housing Authority meeting. Okay, we'll open the Housing... Or the reason yeah, you're recessing council meeting and convening to the housing authority. Very good. We're going to

recess the

Council yes, it comes from the end of the house very good and we have the special meeting from February 18th We need to approve the minutes so moved Those in favor press green

does that include also the excused absences and very good this also uses the absence yes

my motion includes the entire consent calendar thank you very much okay that passes we are now going to close the housing authority meeting and we are going to continue with the comments section

Yes.

And Madam Clerk, do you have comments this evening?

No, that was all I have.

That's all you had. Okay, very good. And we're going to move on to the city manager comments.

Yes, Mayor Pro Tem, just three items. Since it's the first meeting of the month, I give my homeless update for you. So some good news. The fencing encroachment permit has been issued by Caltrans for Santiago Creek. And in preparation, the overgrown vegetation in the area will be cleared out as part of the Day of Good Deeds on Saturday, March 28th. Throughout the month of February, the Quality of Life teams contacted 484 homeless individuals throughout the city, 207 were from Santa Ana, and 35 individuals accepted shelter. The police department cited 185 individuals and made 233 arrests.

City staff has identified some hot spots and is working with CityNet to perform a concentrated outreach effort in those areas. and the city's homeless interdepartmental team will be conducting two more business outreach presentations to Poly Pies on March 5th and downtown Santa Ana on March 31st. And on February 5th and February 19th, multiple city agencies, including Public Works Maintenance Services, the Police Department, Parks and Rec, City Contractors, OC Healthcare Agency, conducted coordinated and large-scale cleanup efforts and outreach in the Santiago Creek,

removing over 23 tons of trash, debris, mattresses, bike park, scrap, shopping carts, and hypodermic needles, while cleaning and abating approximately 1,000 square feet of shrubbery and vegetation, which was being used as a shelter. The second item is just to remind everybody of the Boca da Ora event that's being held on Saturday, March 7th from 12 noon to 7 p.m., and it's in the downtown area. and we're expecting about 7,000 people to attend that. And then also the Day of Good Deeds, our annual Day of Good Deeds event will take place on Saturday, March 28th from 9 a.m. to 12 p.m. It's an annual neighborhood initiative,

graffiti, paint-out, beautification project throughout the city. And if you're interested in volunteering, you can contact our Neighborhood Initiatives Division at 714-667-2260. And that's all.

Thank you, Madam City Manager. we're going to go ahead and continue with council member comments uh council member becerra

Phil BacerraItem —

thank you mayor pro tem i just want to take this opportunity to invite the community to come to my community office hours this saturday march 7th down at south coast global medical center on south bristol at 10 a.m i hope to see you all there we had a very productive discussion last month regarding some of the issues such as what the city manager just mentioned in regards to the homeless and other things impacting our community. So looking forward to seeing you there. And on that note, have a good evening.

Council Member Vince Armiento.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor Pro Tem. I hope everybody went out to vote tonight. It was an important night. It looks like results are still trickling in. So it'll be a long night. I did want to just thank staff because I know that, and the council members here that proposed the memorial, for us to see the memorial for Kobe Bryant and the other eight folks who passed away. Obviously, it was important to have us gather. We've celebrated together. We also mourned together, so it was a very nice turnout here. I think people wanted to grieve as a community, and I know we were able to do that. That was important.

But one of the things I wanted to call attention to tonight was something that was unfortunate that I heard over the weekend and just recently as well was some voter suppression efforts, voter intimidation efforts. I know that specifically at the Mexican consulate's office here in Santa Ana, I know that there was some very ugly anti-immigrant messages and threats made to them. So to the extent our police officers, our police department can investigate a little bit further, that's right in town, right on 4th Street. That was one, and over the weekend in the neighboring city of Orange,

the Democratic Party of Orange County office was also vandalized by some white nationalist messages, which is very unfortunate because we saw these very close to the election cycle and very close to tonight's election night. So those things are not good things as we move along as a society, and especially a society that's supposed to be open and free of these voter intimidation and suppression and just hate, you know, and that's what it is, unfortunately. So to the extent that we can be more assertive in our way

that we approach those bad actors here in the city, I certainly would appreciate it. I think there's no place for any of that here, especially at a time when we're trying to encourage people to get out and vote and be more engaged in their civic responsibility. So with that, I will say good night, and hopefully everybody voted.

Councilmember Peñalosa.

David PenalozaItem —

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I just wanted to announce that I will be traveling tomorrow to the city of Sacramento with the League of California Cities to focus on the Academy for Planning and Building, which is an area where I could always use the education, so I'm excited for that. And that would be tomorrow through Friday. I noticed it wasn't on the agenda as reportable is it supposed to be on the next agenda or is it oh okay so I'll announce it then too but um just again

David PenalozaItem —

just want to thank staff for what councilmember Sarmiento said the memorial you guys did a great job putting that together right along I know PD had a busy weekend so thank you guys for being out there keeping our community safe and that's it also memory glass yes just want to thank staff for

for providing me the information I asked you guys I know that you guys are very busy but just thank you for taking the time to answer my questions city manager and city attorney also thank you and if you guys are men and women of faith keep praying I know Santa Ana will will survive a lot of the things that are coming our way, but just, you know, it's time for us to unite and just pray for each other. So, I keep you guys in prayer, so I'm hoping the same. Also, thank you for allowing me an opportunity to recognize the NAACP. I think they're a very good organization that does a lot of good things

for our community, and I'm hoping that in the future, I know right now they moved their Juneteenth celebration to Anaheim, I'm hoping for them to bring it back to Santa Ana. So if that's something that could be on your things to reach out to them on how we can help them out with that. You know we do Fiestas Patrias, we do Cinco de Mayo. So Juneteenth is a very important celebration for their community so if there's something that we could do to make it you know seamless or an easier process for them to do their celebrations here that that'd be that'd be greatly appreciated

and um i think next time we meet each other make sure you guys wear your green i think it's going to be saint patrick's day may 7th and march 17th right so um i know right you want to pinch him yeah so um with that said have a great evening i want to thank everyone for joining us this evening

And before we go, I just want to thank the standing police officers for their quick response to the tragedy that happened over at Immaculate Heart of Mary. It was a very, very sensitive situation. I just want to thank the officers for protecting the public. There could have been a lot more casualties. And I know it's still in the investigative stages. but I just want to thank them for the quick response and for keeping everyone safe and with that I want to thank everyone and have a good evening

meeting adjourned

Thank you.

Thank you.